Accident Damage to 996 - will it affect resale?
Discussion
Friend recently hit a deer with his 3 year old low mileage 911. The damage was to one side of the front and Car had a new front wing, bumper, door, headlight, radiator etc. All done properly and well at OPC bodyshop.
Question is will it affect the value of the car if:
1. He trades it on or
2. He sells privately
Opinions please....
Question is will it affect the value of the car if:
1. He trades it on or
2. He sells privately
Opinions please....
finmac said:
Friend recently hit his old dear with his 3 year old low mileage 911. The damage was to one side of the front and Car had a new front wing, bumper, door, headlight, radiator etc. All done properly and well at OPC bodyshop.
Question is will it affect the value of the car if:
1. He trades it on or
2. He sells privately
Opinions please....
Question is will it affect the value of the car if:
1. He trades it on or
2. He sells privately
Opinions please....
Unless the damage was so great that the car was beyond economical repair, and classified as a Cat-D or Cat-C etc., then in most cases, it is unlikely that the buyer will know. Especially if he doesn't trade in the car straight away when the new paintwork may show. After its got a few months/years of grim on it, unlikely many would be aware.
Certainly when I've traded cars in the dealers never look that closely over them.
My 2p worth.
Certainly when I've traded cars in the dealers never look that closely over them.
My 2p worth.
And now for a sensible answer.
If it's a Porsche repair, no much effect on price, BUT
I recently tried to trade in my 996 at OPC.
OPC "Ah, it's been painted sir, front end and a wing, hmmm. That will affect the resale. Do you know who did it?
ME "Erm. You did. Before you sold it to me."
OPC "Still nice job though eh..?"
If it's a Porsche repair, no much effect on price, BUT
I recently tried to trade in my 996 at OPC.
OPC "Ah, it's been painted sir, front end and a wing, hmmm. That will affect the resale. Do you know who did it?
ME "Erm. You did. Before you sold it to me."
OPC "Still nice job though eh..?"
Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Thursday 9th November 21:16
You can find what parts have been ordered against a car. so if he required a new wing somebody looking to purchase said car could poss find out abt the prang which may lead to them discounting it....
of course the chances are that many people wont put the leg work into looking into this...
Vesuvius 996 said:
And now for a sensible answer.
If it's a Porsche repair, no much effect on price, BUT
I recently tried to trade in my 996 at OPC.
OPC "Ah, it's been painted sir, front end and a wing, hmmm. That will affect the resale. Do you know who did it?
ME "Erm. You did. Before you sold it to me."
OPC "Still nice job though eh..?"
If it's a Porsche repair, no much effect on price, BUT
I recently tried to trade in my 996 at OPC.
OPC "Ah, it's been painted sir, front end and a wing, hmmm. That will affect the resale. Do you know who did it?
ME "Erm. You did. Before you sold it to me."
OPC "Still nice job though eh..?"
Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Thursday 9th November 21:16
phucking dealers, I hope they all burn in hell.
My old 996 needed a new front end after some idiot decided to stop at traffic lights as I was changing radio station. Needed a new bonnet, bumper etc came to around £10k. I was worried about the repair affecting the resale value but as it was done by an approved bodyshop it made no difference. The dealer the car was sold to didn't even notice it, and I don't think you're under any obligation to mention it unless they ask. One dealer I took it to noticed the front had recently been done but the price he offered was the same as the others who didn't know. If anything the fresh front end is a good thing.
Well one of the cars I tested lately, a 993 Carrera 4, had a trange steering response. I didn't give much attention until I asked the owner "why does it have a Carrera 4S front bumper?" and he said, well the previous owner, some 3 years ago, hit a deer in Germany before it was shipped here". He was in good faith and said it in a trivial fashion. I am sure the accident was nothing.
I could never tell, the alignment of the parts, the paint, the car was marvellously well done. And it had exactly the options I wanted.
But I simply didn't buy it. Because of the steering, and my wondering every day whether the chassis was damaged or not in that accident.
But otherwise, if the buyer doesn't know (unluckily), the seller can get away with anything that was well repaired I guess.
Kay
I could never tell, the alignment of the parts, the paint, the car was marvellously well done. And it had exactly the options I wanted.
But I simply didn't buy it. Because of the steering, and my wondering every day whether the chassis was damaged or not in that accident.
But otherwise, if the buyer doesn't know (unluckily), the seller can get away with anything that was well repaired I guess.
Kay
Hmm. from experience id say although when the repair is being done, youll be told its by an authorised porsche repairer, its to the original standard of the car, and therefore will not affect resale (and hence youll pay top dollar for the repair) but when you come to trade im pretty sure youll get the old "hmm, thats had paint. Its not a very good job either so ill need to blow that over - thatll cost me X so that will have to be added to the cost to change".
I would imagine selling privately would be down to your discretion and the buyers knowledge really - although if an accident shows up on an HPI check and you havent disclosed it to them im sure they would walk away.
I guess the short version of the above is sadly although there is no reason it should, i think it would still affect the resale value.
R.
I would imagine selling privately would be down to your discretion and the buyers knowledge really - although if an accident shows up on an HPI check and you havent disclosed it to them im sure they would walk away.
I guess the short version of the above is sadly although there is no reason it should, i think it would still affect the resale value.
R.
It all depends on how well the repair is carried out. Just because the work is done via the dealer network doesn`t guarantee perfect quality I`m afraid. We see a large variation in standards. Providing there is no evidence of the repair then it shouldn`t make any difference to the price of the car.
If the repair is not done well then it could affect the re-sale price. Once you have got the car back let someone have a look at the repair to make sure everything`s up to scratch.
In theory the repair will come with a guarantee but if a problem arises 2 or 3 years later who`s to say the car hasn`t had a subsequent repair and so claiming on the guarantee could be problematic, (yes I know the depth of paint in microns is recorded but I still forsee a battle).
In Anthony`s case he should have insisted the car was repaired properly and the defects rectified so the there was no sign of the repair. After all if the main dealer who carried out the repair, (and who you would assume viewed it "sympathetically"
, spotted the former damage one would assume everyone else would spot it and penalise the car as well.
Henry
If the repair is not done well then it could affect the re-sale price. Once you have got the car back let someone have a look at the repair to make sure everything`s up to scratch.
In theory the repair will come with a guarantee but if a problem arises 2 or 3 years later who`s to say the car hasn`t had a subsequent repair and so claiming on the guarantee could be problematic, (yes I know the depth of paint in microns is recorded but I still forsee a battle).
In Anthony`s case he should have insisted the car was repaired properly and the defects rectified so the there was no sign of the repair. After all if the main dealer who carried out the repair, (and who you would assume viewed it "sympathetically"
, spotted the former damage one would assume everyone else would spot it and penalise the car as well. Henry
henry-f said:
It all depends on how well the repair is carried out. Just because the work is done via the dealer network doesn`t guarantee perfect quality I`m afraid. We see a large variation in standards. Providing there is no evidence of the repair then it shouldn`t make any difference to the price of the car.
If the repair is not done well then it could affect the re-sale price. Once you have got the car back let someone have a look at the repair to make sure everything`s up to scratch.
In theory the repair will come with a guarantee but if a problem arises 2 or 3 years later who`s to say the car hasn`t had a subsequent repair and so claiming on the guarantee could be problematic, (yes I know the depth of paint in microns is recorded but I still forsee a battle).
In Anthony`s case he should have insisted the car was repaired properly and the defects rectified so the there was no sign of the repair. After all if the main dealer who carried out the repair, (and who you would assume viewed it "sympathetically", spotted the former damage one would assume everyone else would spot it and penalise the car as well.
Henry
If the repair is not done well then it could affect the re-sale price. Once you have got the car back let someone have a look at the repair to make sure everything`s up to scratch.
In theory the repair will come with a guarantee but if a problem arises 2 or 3 years later who`s to say the car hasn`t had a subsequent repair and so claiming on the guarantee could be problematic, (yes I know the depth of paint in microns is recorded but I still forsee a battle).
In Anthony`s case he should have insisted the car was repaired properly and the defects rectified so the there was no sign of the repair. After all if the main dealer who carried out the repair, (and who you would assume viewed it "sympathetically"
, spotted the former damage one would assume everyone else would spot it and penalise the car as well. Henry
Glad to see you got the jab in there, Henry
OPC did indeed spray the nose and wing, at my request before I picked the car up due to stone chips and a minor dent in the wing.......
Actually didn`t mean to put a smiley there, merely close the bracket ! (commas, colons etc next to a bracket sybol automatically generate a smiley)
But seriously if they spotted paintwork that they had done you should get them to re-do it so that the repair is invisible, which on a 996 it should be. You`ve paid for it so have your money`s worth.
Not intended as a dig, just advice.
Henry
edited to add:
We see lots of cars with questionable paintwork and often people tell us it was done via their OPC. Of course some people lie but surely not everyone. Certainly it`s worth having a repair looked at by someone who inspects paintwork on a daily basis just to make sure you`re not going to have any problems come re-sale time. Paintwork is a variable process and is totally dependant on the ability of the person doing the job, for that reason there is significant variation even within one bodyshop.
But seriously if they spotted paintwork that they had done you should get them to re-do it so that the repair is invisible, which on a 996 it should be. You`ve paid for it so have your money`s worth.
Not intended as a dig, just advice.
Henry
edited to add:
We see lots of cars with questionable paintwork and often people tell us it was done via their OPC. Of course some people lie but surely not everyone. Certainly it`s worth having a repair looked at by someone who inspects paintwork on a daily basis just to make sure you`re not going to have any problems come re-sale time. Paintwork is a variable process and is totally dependant on the ability of the person doing the job, for that reason there is significant variation even within one bodyshop.
Edited by henry-f on Friday 10th November 11:50
henry-f said:
Actually didn`t mean to put a smiley there, merely close the bracket ! (commas, colons etc next to a bracket sybol automatically generate a smiley)
But seriously if they spotted paintwork that they had done you should get them to re-do it so that the repair is invisible, which on a 996 it should be. You`ve paid for it so have your money`s worth.
Not intended as a dig, just advice.
Henry
edited to add:
We see lots of cars with questionable paintwork and often people tell us it was done via their OPC. Of course some people lie but surely not everyone. Certainly it`s worth having a repair looked at by someone who inspects paintwork on a daily basis just to make sure you`re not going to have any problems come re-sale time. Paintwork is a variable process and is totally dependant on the ability of the person doing the job, for that reason there is significant variation even within one bodyshop.
But seriously if they spotted paintwork that they had done you should get them to re-do it so that the repair is invisible, which on a 996 it should be. You`ve paid for it so have your money`s worth.
Not intended as a dig, just advice.
Henry
edited to add:
We see lots of cars with questionable paintwork and often people tell us it was done via their OPC. Of course some people lie but surely not everyone. Certainly it`s worth having a repair looked at by someone who inspects paintwork on a daily basis just to make sure you`re not going to have any problems come re-sale time. Paintwork is a variable process and is totally dependant on the ability of the person doing the job, for that reason there is significant variation even within one bodyshop.
Edited by henry-f on Friday 10th November 11:50
I know dude. And after you spotted the difference in colour on mine I have had words and it is gonna be redone f.o.c at the next service.
So thanks.
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