Question: Are all 968CS's LHD?
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Paul is correct. They did the 968CS in both hand drives.
However, in England they also introduced the poncified 'Sport' variant of the 968CS, to sell alongside the Club Sport. This had a few of the CS goodies, but without the hardcore seats and with some rear seats, plus all manner of gaylord electronics such as electric windows and central locking. Sell out or what?
This model outsold the CS AFAIK, which is why you don't see many 968CSs in RHD...
However, in England they also introduced the poncified 'Sport' variant of the 968CS, to sell alongside the Club Sport. This had a few of the CS goodies, but without the hardcore seats and with some rear seats, plus all manner of gaylord electronics such as electric windows and central locking. Sell out or what?
This model outsold the CS AFAIK, which is why you don't see many 968CSs in RHD...
CS was the budget end of the range when the 968 was in production,this was too compete on price with audi s2 & m3 etc,,,
As there were so few tricks on the basic car you rarely find one that is totally standard.Most owners started to specify elctric windows etc. so the sport came out.
of course some owners went the other way and specced lsd.m030 brakes & suspension.
i am a little worried now as I am currently looking for a "Sport" version but also in rhd,,I really hope I do not start paying attention to mens appearances etc.because of this.
One thing that has always wound me up with 968 CS,is that it is supposedly a track orientated car..in fact as good as they are,they were a cheap marketing tool for porsche.The thing that shows that most is that I rarely see one without the heavy sunroof fitted,this is surely not great in terms of raising the centre of gravity on a track car.
Anyone got one without an electric sunroof.....now Dom if they is not a bit suspect in a track car what is?
As there were so few tricks on the basic car you rarely find one that is totally standard.Most owners started to specify elctric windows etc. so the sport came out.
of course some owners went the other way and specced lsd.m030 brakes & suspension.
i am a little worried now as I am currently looking for a "Sport" version but also in rhd,,I really hope I do not start paying attention to mens appearances etc.because of this.
One thing that has always wound me up with 968 CS,is that it is supposedly a track orientated car..in fact as good as they are,they were a cheap marketing tool for porsche.The thing that shows that most is that I rarely see one without the heavy sunroof fitted,this is surely not great in terms of raising the centre of gravity on a track car.
Anyone got one without an electric sunroof.....now Dom if they is not a bit suspect in a track car what is?
clubsport said:
One thing that has always wound me up with 968 CS,is that it is supposedly a track orientated car..in fact as good as they are,they were a cheap marketing tool for porsche.The thing that shows that most is that I rarely see one without the heavy sunroof fitted,this is surely not great in terms of raising the centre of gravity on a track car.
Anyone got one without an electric sunroof.....now Dom if they is not a bit suspect in a track car what is?
Both Scottster and I are sunroof-less, thank you very much.
I've got the M030 LSD as well so I'm at least a third of a real man.
There's nothing wrong with cheap marketing tools, look at the 356 speedster
clubsport said: some owners went the other way and specced lsd.m030 brakes & suspension.
Me, for example. Aircon is an essential IMHO though (and only adds 17kg, fairly low down)
i am a little worried now as I am currently looking for a "Sport" version but also in rhd,,I really hope I do not start paying attention to mens appearances etc.because of this.
They come with a subscrption to 'attitude'
Anyone got one without an electric sunroof...
Did have, 'til some &*^% crashed into it
Yup, Herman and I are hard as nails, sunroof-less, iron bar eating, Chelsea head-hunting hard ba$tards....
(ps: I think he likes to wear girlies underwear at the weekends tho while he's playing with his 'essential' air con - in fact, wasn't that lighter you chucked at Tierry Henry pink?
)
Disclaimer: That was of course a little Friday morning joke for all the sensitive souls, Me H or I don't advocate the tossing of anything whilst enjoying the otherwise fine atmosphere of another good battering by the Arse)
(ps: I think he likes to wear girlies underwear at the weekends tho while he's playing with his 'essential' air con - in fact, wasn't that lighter you chucked at Tierry Henry pink?
) Disclaimer: That was of course a little Friday morning joke for all the sensitive souls, Me H or I don't advocate the tossing of anything whilst enjoying the otherwise fine atmosphere of another good battering by the Arse)
One 968CS owner I spoke to who has had his car from new says the dealer was convinced he would never be able to sell it on without a sun roof. Mine, which I bought second hand, does have a sun roof and while it does let you get a bit more air through the car I'd still prefer not to have it at all.
Martin
Martin
Well, CS, in a CS (I've been dying to write that), a sunroof is definitely a girlie gadget. Not just the weight, but the structural rigidity of cutting a hole in the roof... I imagine more CSs are unsold these days for HAVING one. The M030 pack would virtually guarantee resale these days.
Also, air con is not so desirable despite weighing only 17kgs, because it takes power from the engine through its naughty little pulley. Bad air con.
Admittedly, this may only be one or two bhp, but hey, it's not like the 968CS is overpowered.
I am not against the 968 Sport per se - I quite like them - but I class them in the 'sensible car' camp, rather than the 'nutter bastard car' camp. If I didn't need better accommodation or a v8 engine note from a second car, I would prefer a 968 Sport to my current 3 series.
That said, we can overlook mrsd's prediliction for creature comforts in her 968CS as 1) ages ago when jarel was on these forums, I nearly ended up purchasing said car; and 2) she is a laydee after all (although notice how jond and mrsd never post simulataneuosly - either one computer between them or are they one and the same?... mrsd does know an awful lot about nice cars).
All the best
Domster
(I've been dying to write that), a sunroof is definitely a girlie gadget. Not just the weight, but the structural rigidity of cutting a hole in the roof... I imagine more CSs are unsold these days for HAVING one. The M030 pack would virtually guarantee resale these days. Also, air con is not so desirable despite weighing only 17kgs, because it takes power from the engine through its naughty little pulley. Bad air con.
Admittedly, this may only be one or two bhp, but hey, it's not like the 968CS is overpowered. I am not against the 968 Sport per se - I quite like them - but I class them in the 'sensible car' camp, rather than the 'nutter bastard car' camp. If I didn't need better accommodation or a v8 engine note from a second car, I would prefer a 968 Sport to my current 3 series.
That said, we can overlook mrsd's prediliction for creature comforts in her 968CS as 1) ages ago when jarel was on these forums, I nearly ended up purchasing said car; and 2) she is a laydee after all (although notice how jond and mrsd never post simulataneuosly - either one computer between them or are they one and the same?... mrsd does know an awful lot about nice cars
). All the best
Domster
One or two bhp - bugger that mate, I'd be surprised if air con took less than 20bhp when in full flow - you'd be amased how sluggish they feel with it running. That said, you can always hit the button on the dash to turn it off, not that tricky really and then the 17kgs is only a small matter.
Domster, forgot you were having air con, bloody wimp - I thought that after your postings you'd be trying to prove the Ultima boyz that it was poss to run one without this luxuary!!
Domster, forgot you were having air con, bloody wimp - I thought that after your postings you'd be trying to prove the Ultima boyz that it was poss to run one without this luxuary!!
domster said: (although notice how jond and mrsd never post simulataneuosly - either one computer between them or are they one and the same?... mrsd does know an awful lot about nice cars
Oi
Jon's away ATM. I am not an online transvestite (easy way to tell-I know about the cars, Jon just drives them 
) Interesting. What was the bhp of the 968CS. My Boxster S has only 260bhp and I can't say you can tell whether or not the Aircon is running.
I once drive a Ford Laser (Escort style Australian car) which had aircon (essential in Aus). When it came on the whole car juddered and slowed to a crawl. BHP? Not sure it had one....
I once drive a Ford Laser (Escort style Australian car) which had aircon (essential in Aus). When it came on the whole car juddered and slowed to a crawl. BHP? Not sure it had one....
When I was looking for my car (ended up with a RHD CS with sunroof), I must have looked at/enquired about 30+ cars. Of them every RHD had a sunroof and every LHD didn't. I assumed Porsche never tooled up to produce non-sunroof RHD 968 shells and wasn't going to bother for a few CS's. Cue lots of replies from non-sunroof RHD owners, but I've never seen one.
They're 240 bhp by the way.
They're 240 bhp by the way.
Yeah, they are 240bhp. I'd love to know the loss by turning the air con on. Even if the compressor isn't turned on, the belt is still connected to the system and causing friction, shurely?
Interesting regarding RHD 968s always having sunroofs. I suspect that 'closed roof' examples do exist, but this requires some research... must dig out old road tests etc.
Sorry to cast aspersions mrsd Got to admit that the 'clark kent/superman never being seen in the same place at the same time' rule was starting to apply to you and jon, though
Interesting regarding RHD 968s always having sunroofs. I suspect that 'closed roof' examples do exist, but this requires some research... must dig out old road tests etc.
Sorry to cast aspersions mrsd
Got to admit that the 'clark kent/superman never being seen in the same place at the same time' rule was starting to apply to you and jon, though 
Sunroof must have been a standard fitment on CS's for the UK market, but available as a delete option ? My car has no comfort bits and no option codes at all on the build spec sticker in the boot, but it has a sunroof. This would explain why nearly all RHD CS's have sunroofs but nowt else. Knowing Porsche, you probably had to pay extra not to have one. Maybe someone has an original brochure ? I'd be interested to know.
>> Edited by GR4 on Friday 4th April 17:24
>> Edited by GR4 on Friday 4th April 17:24
The owner I mentioned before has no sunroof. He has had a fair few mods done, e.g. turbo-s front and rear spoiler, plastic bonnet, etc.
My car has a number of option codes listed in the service book : C16 030 220 418 451 561 650
It's speed yellow without the club sport logo on the side.
Martin
My car has a number of option codes listed in the service book : C16 030 220 418 451 561 650
It's speed yellow without the club sport logo on the side.
Martin
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