Questions from GT3 newcomer
Discussion
Hello all. I have recently acquired a 996GT3 Mk2 and have a couple of questions for the GT3 fraternity on here:
1. The car has standard OPC brake pads (Ceramic disks). I am going to Bedford on Saturday for my first track outing in this car. I am familiar with the discussion about PCCB's in general, but interested to know how the standard Posche set up fares in terms of fade, etc. Aside from the well documented issues with the ceramic disks, should I expect to have to fork out on new pads, hoses and brake fluids immediately, or will the current set up last a track day or two?
2. The car currently has no front splitter fitted, OPC is asking close to £200 which seems a bit rich for what I gather is a consumable. Parr do a "Motorsport" splitter for about half the cost, has anyone tried it? I recall a thread on here about a source on cheap splitters but can not find it. Other ideas?
Oddly, when I did the OPC warranty check, they insisted on me fitting "standard" tires (it had almost new Michelin Cups at the time) but made no comment on the missing splitter.
Lastly, is anyone else going to Bedford on Saturday?
Regards,
Mjölner
1. The car has standard OPC brake pads (Ceramic disks). I am going to Bedford on Saturday for my first track outing in this car. I am familiar with the discussion about PCCB's in general, but interested to know how the standard Posche set up fares in terms of fade, etc. Aside from the well documented issues with the ceramic disks, should I expect to have to fork out on new pads, hoses and brake fluids immediately, or will the current set up last a track day or two?
2. The car currently has no front splitter fitted, OPC is asking close to £200 which seems a bit rich for what I gather is a consumable. Parr do a "Motorsport" splitter for about half the cost, has anyone tried it? I recall a thread on here about a source on cheap splitters but can not find it. Other ideas?
Oddly, when I did the OPC warranty check, they insisted on me fitting "standard" tires (it had almost new Michelin Cups at the time) but made no comment on the missing splitter.
Lastly, is anyone else going to Bedford on Saturday?
Regards,
Mjölner
Mjolner said:
but interested to know how the standard Posche set up fares in terms of fade, etc. Aside from the well documented issues with the ceramic disks, should I expect to have to fork out on new pads, hoses and brake fluids immediately, or will the current set up last a track day or two?
2. The car currently has no front splitter fitted, OPC is asking close to £200 which seems a bit rich for what I gather is a consumable. Parr do a "Motorsport" splitter for about half the cost, has anyone tried it? I recall a thread on here about a source on cheap splitters but can not find it. Other ideas?
Congrats on the car! Which car, specs, etc...!
Fade? They shouldn't.
Durability of brake component consumables depends on condition and usage.
Motorsport splitter is standard Porsche splitter (as fitted to RS) which is a "consumable" for many...
Its a black car bought from Sean Lockyear, and has carbon bucket seats, stainless half roll cage (but oddly no harnesses - where can I get those?), PCCB and Litronics. Otherwise standard, i think.
Loving it. Its like an Elise for grown-ups.
My question regarding the brakes was directed at repeated heavy use on the track. I had a 968CS with an M030 pack (ie Big Blacks upfront) and the brakes would not last a full track session without changing to racing fluids and changing the pads to a harder compound.
Loving it. Its like an Elise for grown-ups.
My question regarding the brakes was directed at repeated heavy use on the track. I had a 968CS with an M030 pack (ie Big Blacks upfront) and the brakes would not last a full track session without changing to racing fluids and changing the pads to a harder compound.
Mjolner said:
My question regarding the brakes was directed at repeated heavy use on the track. I had a 968CS with an M030 pack (ie Big Blacks upfront) and the brakes would not last a full track session without changing to racing fluids and changing the pads to a harder compound.
If you're going to be on track frequently, I recommend going for proper track pads. Common GT3 pad upgrades are Pagid RS29s with Castrol SRF fluid. With that combo you will not find any fade on even the hardest braking circuits (Bedford GT being the most punishing). But... after seeing how little a pro driver brakes (like Mike Wilds), I suspect OEM pads are probably more than sufficient!
The Londoner said:
rob_j said:
Given up with the front spiltter, bloody thing won't stay on no matter what I do. 
Try keeping it on the track, y'know, it's the grey bit, not the green bit
Cheeky git, got ripped of 1st time coming out of a hotel car park in South Wales, 2nd time out of the Mailbox car park in Brum, 3rd time getting out of Butzi's drive. Anyway if you venture onto the green stuff I'm told it's the brake cooling ducts you tend to lose!!!
David911rsr said:
Surely the dealer you brought the car from should pay for a new splitter to be fitted given it's missing?
You'd think!
Motorsport one is fine though and most use them, although they have even less clearance. I had trouble keeping mine attached for a while, but if you make sure you have the tape as well as the attachment pins, it seems fairly secure. Without the tape it will get forced off by air flow.
Think some rennlist people were using RS19 pads on the ceramic disks, but you would want to research that for yourself rather than taking my word!
Thank you all for your feedback.
I guess Saturday will tell all as far as the brakes are concerned - I have already budgeted for a change to steels, probably a question of time. I have ordered the splitter from Parr, it will be interesting to see how I get on given the local council's love of speedbumps.
I look forward to meeting some of you on Saturday.
I guess Saturday will tell all as far as the brakes are concerned - I have already budgeted for a change to steels, probably a question of time. I have ordered the splitter from Parr, it will be interesting to see how I get on given the local council's love of speedbumps.
I look forward to meeting some of you on Saturday.
I'll be there on Saturday too.
Don't know if you've driven the GT at Bedford before, but if your brakes last there, by all accounts they'll last anywhere.
After Bedford GT last year I have since swapped to racing fluid and braided hoses, but kept the stock pads for now. See how Saturday goes and then change those as well if needed.
See ya there.
Jack
Don't know if you've driven the GT at Bedford before, but if your brakes last there, by all accounts they'll last anywhere.
After Bedford GT last year I have since swapped to racing fluid and braided hoses, but kept the stock pads for now. See how Saturday goes and then change those as well if needed.
See ya there.
Jack
As mentioned by other call Steve at JZM. If you are going to track the car regularly then change the disk for steel and put the ceramics in a box for resale. JZM are the only people I know who have a steel rear disk to ensure the correct brake balance. I would also recommend a geo check and corner weights as this will make a huge difference.
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