996TT - Trackday
Discussion
Question goes out to owners of TTs who have had their cars on track. I don't want to start a "You should have bought a GT3/GT2!" thread. Just after personal experience from owners.
Is it really a complete waste of time taking the car on a track for a day?
I am going to be doing a trip to the Ring in it soon and would really like to put it through its paces on a track first, so that I can learn the limits in a safe controlled environment. I am thinking an airfield. I have been to the one at Abingdon and was considering this again. I would love to drive Cadwell Park (have never been there) but am wondering if this particular track is more suited to the lightweights such as Elises.
Is Abingdon the best place for this or is the TT really just an overweight GT which would not feel at home on any track in the first place?
Is it really a complete waste of time taking the car on a track for a day?
I am going to be doing a trip to the Ring in it soon and would really like to put it through its paces on a track first, so that I can learn the limits in a safe controlled environment. I am thinking an airfield. I have been to the one at Abingdon and was considering this again. I would love to drive Cadwell Park (have never been there) but am wondering if this particular track is more suited to the lightweights such as Elises.
Is Abingdon the best place for this or is the TT really just an overweight GT which would not feel at home on any track in the first place?
MaKSiNG said:
Question goes out to owners of TTs who have had their cars on track. I don't want to start a "You should have bought a GT3/GT2!" thread. Just after personal experience from owners.
Is it really a complete waste of time taking the car on a track for a day?
I am going to be doing a trip to the Ring in it soon and would really like to put it through its paces on a track first, so that I can learn the limits in a safe controlled environment. I am thinking an airfield. I have been to the one at Abingdon and was considering this again. I would love to drive Cadwell Park (have never been there) but am wondering if this particular track is more suited to the lightweights such as Elises.
Is Abingdon the best place for this or is the TT really just an overweight GT which would not feel at home on any track in the first place?
Is it really a complete waste of time taking the car on a track for a day?
I am going to be doing a trip to the Ring in it soon and would really like to put it through its paces on a track first, so that I can learn the limits in a safe controlled environment. I am thinking an airfield. I have been to the one at Abingdon and was considering this again. I would love to drive Cadwell Park (have never been there) but am wondering if this particular track is more suited to the lightweights such as Elises.
Is Abingdon the best place for this or is the TT really just an overweight GT which would not feel at home on any track in the first place?
I think it's all relative tbh...
It will still feel a quick car on track, especially if you've not been on track before..
But the more your confidence and speed grows, then then safe set up will become a bit
frustrating, as the car will understeer a lot in the bends, which will eat your tyres..
Good thing is that the PSM will always be there to safe yer ass, if things get out of shape...
G.
Edited by glenn mcmenamin on Monday 2nd April 13:54
glenn mcmenamin said:
MaKSiNG said:
Question goes out to owners of TTs who have had their cars on track. I don't want to start a "You should have bought a GT3/GT2!" thread. Just after personal experience from owners.
Is it really a complete waste of time taking the car on a track for a day?
I am going to be doing a trip to the Ring in it soon and would really like to put it through its paces on a track first, so that I can learn the limits in a safe controlled environment. I am thinking an airfield. I have been to the one at Abingdon and was considering this again. I would love to drive Cadwell Park (have never been there) but am wondering if this particular track is more suited to the lightweights such as Elises.
Is Abingdon the best place for this or is the TT really just an overweight GT which would not feel at home on any track in the first place?
Is it really a complete waste of time taking the car on a track for a day?
I am going to be doing a trip to the Ring in it soon and would really like to put it through its paces on a track first, so that I can learn the limits in a safe controlled environment. I am thinking an airfield. I have been to the one at Abingdon and was considering this again. I would love to drive Cadwell Park (have never been there) but am wondering if this particular track is more suited to the lightweights such as Elises.
Is Abingdon the best place for this or is the TT really just an overweight GT which would not feel at home on any track in the first place?
I think it's all relative tbh...
It will still feel a quick car on track, especially if you've not been on track before..
But the more your confidence and speed grows, then then safe set up will become a bit
frustrating, as the car will understeer a lot in the bends, which will eat your tyres..
Good thing is that the PSM will always be there to safe yer ass, if things get out of shape...
G.
Edited by glenn mcmenamin on Monday 2nd April 13:54
.....which they will
MaKSiNG said:
Question goes out to owners of TTs who have had their cars on track. I don't want to start a "You should have bought a GT3/GT2!" thread. Just after personal experience from owners.
Is it really a complete waste of time taking the car on a track for a day?
I am going to be doing a trip to the Ring in it soon and would really like to put it through its paces on a track first, so that I can learn the limits in a safe controlled environment. I am thinking an airfield. I have been to the one at Abingdon and was considering this again. I would love to drive Cadwell Park (have never been there) but am wondering if this particular track is more suited to the lightweights such as Elises.
Is Abingdon the best place for this or is the TT really just an overweight GT which would not feel at home on any track in the first place?
I wouldnt take the tt on track,4wd and too heavy..in fact i think the track is potentially the worst environment for a tt..i'll be surprised if the brakes last more than 4 laps,on the road it beats anything..on a track it really wouldnt feel happy.imo of course. Is it really a complete waste of time taking the car on a track for a day?
I am going to be doing a trip to the Ring in it soon and would really like to put it through its paces on a track first, so that I can learn the limits in a safe controlled environment. I am thinking an airfield. I have been to the one at Abingdon and was considering this again. I would love to drive Cadwell Park (have never been there) but am wondering if this particular track is more suited to the lightweights such as Elises.
Is Abingdon the best place for this or is the TT really just an overweight GT which would not feel at home on any track in the first place?
Part of the understeer problem is down to the standard road tyres.
A TT, 996 or 997, shod with proper trackday tyres (Pirelli Corsa, Michelin Pilot Sport Cup or Toyo 888's) are pretty quick on track. Regular pilot sports or p zerro's are like plastic by comparision.
Engine and gearbox are engineered to cope with track use. Brakes upgrade might be in order if you plan to track it frequently. Likewise geometry.
Current values being what they are I expect we'll see more 996TT's venturing out on track.
A TT, 996 or 997, shod with proper trackday tyres (Pirelli Corsa, Michelin Pilot Sport Cup or Toyo 888's) are pretty quick on track. Regular pilot sports or p zerro's are like plastic by comparision.
Engine and gearbox are engineered to cope with track use. Brakes upgrade might be in order if you plan to track it frequently. Likewise geometry.
Current values being what they are I expect we'll see more 996TT's venturing out on track.
as above the tyres and brakes will take a lot of punishment. I would suggest shorter sessions even if it's an open pitlane on any track, monitor the tyre temp more then other track users and change the disks and pads before the event but obviously bed them in before hand. I did two sessions as a passenger in a tt at bedford last year and the car was great but the tyres went off quicker then i was used to and with the psm turned off the car spun alot.
A track like the ring, bedford, silverstone or even snet would allow you to explore the tt more then say brands indy where i doubt you would really see the benefit of the tt.
do it but allow for more wear and tear then on the road obviously.
A track like the ring, bedford, silverstone or even snet would allow you to explore the tt more then say brands indy where i doubt you would really see the benefit of the tt.
do it but allow for more wear and tear then on the road obviously.
ScottL said:
Part of the understeer problem is down to the standard road tyres.
A TT, 996 or 997, shod with proper trackday tyres (Pirelli Corsa, Michelin Pilot Sport Cup or Toyo 888's) are pretty quick on track. Regular pilot sports or p zerro's are like plastic by comparision.
Engine and gearbox are engineered to cope with track use. Brakes upgrade might be in order if you plan to track it frequently. Likewise geometry.
Current values being what they are I expect we'll see more 996TT's venturing out on track.
Why? it doesnt matter if the tt is worth 4k its still a rubbish track car.. A TT, 996 or 997, shod with proper trackday tyres (Pirelli Corsa, Michelin Pilot Sport Cup or Toyo 888's) are pretty quick on track. Regular pilot sports or p zerro's are like plastic by comparision.
Engine and gearbox are engineered to cope with track use. Brakes upgrade might be in order if you plan to track it frequently. Likewise geometry.
Current values being what they are I expect we'll see more 996TT's venturing out on track.
I tracked my 996TT coupe and with it's immense power and stability it is very easy to feel like a hero.
As was said earlier it is great for your first few track days and will help you become addicted to the track and if you want more you'll then go the Gt3 route or just as satisfying get a plastic pig, (Exige Elise Caterham types).
In summary if your an eperienced track rat you'll struggle with the TT but a novice will love it.
As was said earlier it is great for your first few track days and will help you become addicted to the track and if you want more you'll then go the Gt3 route or just as satisfying get a plastic pig, (Exige Elise Caterham types).
In summary if your an eperienced track rat you'll struggle with the TT but a novice will love it.
kayc said:
ScottL said:
Current values being what they are I expect we'll see more 996TT's venturing out on track.
Why? it doesnt matter if the tt is worth 4k its still a rubbish track car.. Not like you to talk down the TT.
Granted it's never going to be the best track car on the planet but it's still quicker than most on a typical trackday. Also properly engineered to cope and fun to drive.
For someone that's looking to do mostly road driving with say 3 or 4 track outings a year, they could do a lot worse than a 996TT. Brilliant on the road and pretty damn good on track by normal road car standards.
They are certainly becoming a more frequent occurance at the track days I go to.
let me save you some time, change the pads to pagid rs29's and switch to a racing brake fluid.
other than brake fade (with the standard setup) it's good fun on track, but without upgrading the brakes you're wasting your time and may actually damage the car because you won't have any brakes after 3-4 laps.
other than brake fade (with the standard setup) it's good fun on track, but without upgrading the brakes you're wasting your time and may actually damage the car because you won't have any brakes after 3-4 laps.
ScottL said:
kayc said:
ScottL said:
Current values being what they are I expect we'll see more 996TT's venturing out on track.
Why? it doesnt matter if the tt is worth 4k its still a rubbish track car.. Not like you to talk down the TT.
Granted it's never going to be the best track car on the planet but it's still quicker than most on a typical trackday. Also properly engineered to cope and fun to drive.
For someone that's looking to do mostly road driving with say 3 or 4 track outings a year, they could do a lot worse than a 996TT. Brilliant on the road and pretty damn good on track by normal road car standards.
They are certainly becoming a more frequent occurance at the track days I go to.
egbert said:
let me save you some time, change the pads to pagid rs29's and switch to a racing brake fluid.
other than brake fade (with the standard setup) it's good fun on track, but without upgrading the brakes you're wasting your time and may actually damage the car because you won't have any brakes after 3-4 laps.
other than brake fade (with the standard setup) it's good fun on track, but without upgrading the brakes you're wasting your time and may actually damage the car because you won't have any brakes after 3-4 laps.
do they rs29's squeal much?
ukwill said:
egbert said:
let me save you some time, change the pads to pagid rs29's and switch to a racing brake fluid.
other than brake fade (with the standard setup) it's good fun on track, but without upgrading the brakes you're wasting your time and may actually damage the car because you won't have any brakes after 3-4 laps.
other than brake fade (with the standard setup) it's good fun on track, but without upgrading the brakes you're wasting your time and may actually damage the car because you won't have any brakes after 3-4 laps.
do they rs29's squeal much?
yes they do.
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