964 turbo or 993tt?
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The 993tt will be cheaper to service ! The 964's, due to the placement of the engine and the fact that it represented a major change from the 911 carrerra (its predecessor) had a few hiccups that the 993 made good on. then again, if you are a wealthy so and so... this may not matter ! Good luck !
All depeneds on how often you're going to use it, also how long you're prepared to wait for the right one.. Both have their merits, personally don't think either is a proper 'everyday supercar' like the 996 was, but then again, both are far better looking and will hold their value when the 996's are long gone...
guyvert1 said:
All depeneds on how often you're going to use it, also how long you're prepared to wait for the right one.. Both have their merits, personally don't think either is a proper 'everyday supercar' like the 996 was, but then again, both are far better looking and will hold their value when the 996's are long gone...
Its just going to be a weekend toy..i presume there were less 964's produced? kayc said:
guyvert1 said:
All depeneds on how often you're going to use it, also how long you're prepared to wait for the right one.. Both have their merits, personally don't think either is a proper 'everyday supercar' like the 996 was, but then again, both are far better looking and will hold their value when the 996's are long gone...
Its just going to be a weekend toy..i presume there were less 964's produced? HOLD ON!!!!!!!!!! ITS A TOY YOUR AFTER?
kayc said:
Would i take one over my tt for everyday use not a chance,the things that make the GT2 so special in the right conditions are the ones that let it down in the wrong conditions ..as slippydiff wrote(very well imo)its a very special car but it is a toy..if i had 4 cars the GT2 would be one of them..I think if you swap the tt for a gt2 there will be quite a few occassions that you will think''i think the tt would have done that better'.All imho of course.
By your own words or agreement?!?!? Not sure which, but sd states that the GT2 is a toy and you agree(very well imo). Your looking for the wrong car kayc.
Edited by bund on Thursday 5th April 08:30
bund said:
kayc said:
guyvert1 said:
All depeneds on how often you're going to use it, also how long you're prepared to wait for the right one.. Both have their merits, personally don't think either is a proper 'everyday supercar' like the 996 was, but then again, both are far better looking and will hold their value when the 996's are long gone...
Its just going to be a weekend toy..i presume there were less 964's produced? HOLD ON!!!!!!!!!! ITS A TOY YOUR AFTER?
kayc said:
Would i take one over my tt for everyday use not a chance,the things that make the GT2 so special in the right conditions are the ones that let it down in the wrong conditions ..as slippydiff wrote(very well imo)its a very special car but it is a toy..if i had 4 cars the GT2 would be one of them..I think if you swap the tt for a gt2 there will be quite a few occassions that you will think''i think the tt would have done that better'.All imho of course.
By your own words or agreement?!?!? Not sure which, but you do clearly state that the GT2 is a toy. Your looking for the wrong car kayc.
Edited by bund on Thursday 5th April 08:26
anguspatterson said:
The 993tt will be cheaper to service ! The 964's, due to the placement of the engine and the fact that it represented a major change from the 911 carrerra (its predecessor) had a few hiccups that the 993 made good on. then again, if you are a wealthy so and so... this may not matter ! Good luck !
taking a quick look at JZ Machtech's service menue the 964 is a little cheaper to service than the 993 but all that is inmaterial. The 3.3 turbo 2's engine was same as previous the 3.6 was different. Not aware of any hiccups.
Having driven all three types in bog standard as they left the factory form I can only comment as follows:
I like the long legged feel of the 964/965 five speed gearbox. The car feels heavy and hewn from granite. It feels like it demands respect and that if you take the p*ss it will bite your a*se. The 3.3 feels more aggresive when it comes on full boost whereas the 3.6 feel much smoother and linear. ie the 3.3 will make the wife feel sick, the 3.6 less likely to.
the 993 turbo is smoother but you always seem to be hitting the rev limiter. The car feels a lot lighter and far more chuckable.
Drive all three types and make your own mind up.
kayc said:
It appears that my 996tt will depart today and i now want a 964turbo 2 or 993tt..anyone had both or had experience of both.?Im leaning towards the earlier car for classic status reasons but the prices of both models appear to be fairly close...any advice appreaciated.
The prices are only close if youre looking at the 3.6 Turbo II. The 3.3 version is a discount of 40% on the 993 prices, which has to be tempting.
The drive is pretty different too, big single turbo with significant lag or smoother TT with a more even pick up of power. Takes a while to learn to drive the 965, keep the revs up and its very quick and edgy, with lower revs its very ponderous and placid. Personally love the 965 I have, fun to drive and classic looks, love the "proper" porsche front wings.
The 993 is the quicker more refined car but they arent priced the same and £ for £ and for its classic looks I'd go for the earlier 3.3 (I'm looking for a 996 tt to go with mine for the best of both)
hoges11 said:
kayc said:
It appears that my 996tt will depart today and i now want a 964turbo 2 or 993tt..anyone had both or had experience of both.?Im leaning towards the earlier car for classic status reasons but the prices of both models appear to be fairly close...any advice appreaciated.
The prices are only close if youre looking at the 3.6 Turbo II. The 3.3 version is a discount of 40% on the 993 prices, which has to be tempting.
The drive is pretty different too, big single turbo with significant lag or smoother TT with a more even pick up of power. Takes a while to learn to drive the 965, keep the revs up and its very quick and edgy, with lower revs its very ponderous and placid. Personally love the 965 I have, fun to drive and classic looks, love the "proper" porsche front wings.
The 993 is the quicker more refined car but they arent priced the same and £ for £ and for its classic looks I'd go for the earlier 3.3 (I'm looking for a 996 tt to go with mine for the best of both)
As far as I can find out
3.3 Turbo II 3,600
3.6 Turbo II 1,000
993 TT 6,700 http://p-car.com/production.html
3.3 Turbo II 3,600
3.6 Turbo II 1,000
993 TT 6,700 http://p-car.com/production.html
Edited by hoges11 on Thursday 5th April 11:36
Edited by hoges11 on Thursday 5th April 11:38
You should read this thread in Rennlist relating to a guy who has just sold his 997TT for a 3.6 965. Pretty much sums up why people go for 965 over the later cars.
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