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C98 is Cyprus --- and some have said that it may have a slightly stronger Aircon system.
They are all made in Germany by Porsche, --- who do not manufacture sub standard cars.
This question has been raised before, and no other difference has ever been proposed --- not even by OPC's who are happy to sell you a Porsche extended warranty on identical terms.
They are all made in Germany by Porsche, --- who do not manufacture sub standard cars.
This question has been raised before, and no other difference has ever been proposed --- not even by OPC's who are happy to sell you a Porsche extended warranty on identical terms.
ChrisW. said:
C98 is Cyprus --- and some have said that it may have a slightly stronger Aircon system.
They are all made in Germany by Porsche, --- who do not manufacture sub standard cars.
This question has been raised before, and no other difference has ever been proposed --- not even by OPC's who are happy to sell you a Porsche extended warranty on identical terms.
had a c98 boxsterThey are all made in Germany by Porsche, --- who do not manufacture sub standard cars.
This question has been raised before, and no other difference has ever been proposed --- not even by OPC's who are happy to sell you a Porsche extended warranty on identical terms.
always serviced at an opc
never had any problems with warranty claims
never had any problems with reliability
as previous poster said, a porsche is a porsche is a porsche
Koln-RS said:
Rightly or wrogly, the market values C98s and unofficial C16 imports lower than official UK cars.
Shouldn't be a problem so long as you get the saving.
No they don't. I had a C16 Boxster S and I p/ex'd it to an OPC and got exactly the same as if supplied by a UK OPC. I was told by the OPC it makes no difference because C16 is an official UK car for the UK market. Mine was delivered to a German OPC instead of a UK OPC that's all.Shouldn't be a problem so long as you get the saving.
Any saving made by the original purchaser is his/her business and a return for their efforts is making that saving
In my case, it was 25% cheaper to buy exactly the same car in Germany in 2000. After 4 years I suffered only 22% depreciation Edited by Silver993tt on Wednesday 23 May 08:04
Koln-RS said:
Rightly or wrogly, the market values C98s and unofficial C16 imports lower than official UK cars.
Shouldn't be a problem so long as you get the saving.
True - although others might say differently, the fact is that it is used as a reason to bid you down....Witness the £36k GT3 C98 spec that sold thru PH in January this year....using that as a rule of thumb, one might expect to pay as much as £4k less for a C98 spec GT3...Shouldn't be a problem so long as you get the saving.
I think several factors determine whether the import status of a car has any bearing.
C16 to C98 (or other non UK models): The newer the car the more bearing it has. On a 5 plus year old car where there will be larger differences in absolute condition amongst individual cars then I think the car it`s self is of more importance. On newer cars the main dealer network is not supposed to sell anything other than a C16 car and so values can be compromised. As has been mentioned there may be differences in the alarm systems between C16 & C98 etc. On specialist cars where significant premiums are paid for particular models (RS, GT, S etc), then possibly the import status has a bearing as the buyer knows they are paying a premium and want to limit their exposure to problems. This is particularly the case where a significant premium is being paid for low milage examples.
The supplying country of origin on C16 (fully UK spec) cars: I think the reality is that people may use the fact a car was not UK supplied new because they know (or assume) the buyer paid less for a car and think they may be able to buy it in for less money as a result. Providing the car came into the UK straight away then I`m not sure it makes a huge difference, again the newer the car the more it may effect (if at all) values. Where there was a significant gap between a C16 car being supplied overseas and registered in the UK then potentially that will have a bearing on the car`s value as the vehicle`s provenance is harder to prove, where was it during that time ?
Hope that helps.
Henry
C16 to C98 (or other non UK models): The newer the car the more bearing it has. On a 5 plus year old car where there will be larger differences in absolute condition amongst individual cars then I think the car it`s self is of more importance. On newer cars the main dealer network is not supposed to sell anything other than a C16 car and so values can be compromised. As has been mentioned there may be differences in the alarm systems between C16 & C98 etc. On specialist cars where significant premiums are paid for particular models (RS, GT, S etc), then possibly the import status has a bearing as the buyer knows they are paying a premium and want to limit their exposure to problems. This is particularly the case where a significant premium is being paid for low milage examples.
The supplying country of origin on C16 (fully UK spec) cars: I think the reality is that people may use the fact a car was not UK supplied new because they know (or assume) the buyer paid less for a car and think they may be able to buy it in for less money as a result. Providing the car came into the UK straight away then I`m not sure it makes a huge difference, again the newer the car the more it may effect (if at all) values. Where there was a significant gap between a C16 car being supplied overseas and registered in the UK then potentially that will have a bearing on the car`s value as the vehicle`s provenance is harder to prove, where was it during that time ?
Hope that helps.
Henry
I have said this before, based on specific legal experience.
If someone buys a Porsche, new or used, that was not supplied through a UK OPC/Porsche Cars Great Britain, then there can be implications should problems arise under the sale of goods act, non-merchantable quality issues, out of warranty claims, etc. The rights of redress would have to be through the original sales channels, which may be overseas.
Also, although Porsche GB and the OPCs tolerate indirect imports, they do not like them (witness Porsche Cars contract of co-operation with Porsche Club) and will not necessarily provide the sympathetic/goodwill support, outside of warranty, on cars they have not supplied. My own OPC say they will not retail indirect imports, even C16.
Now that's not to say there is anything wrong with the cars, and many people may have had such cars and been entirely happy. But I would definitely expect to pay less for a car that was not originally supplied by a UK OPC, although this would diminish with time.
If someone buys a Porsche, new or used, that was not supplied through a UK OPC/Porsche Cars Great Britain, then there can be implications should problems arise under the sale of goods act, non-merchantable quality issues, out of warranty claims, etc. The rights of redress would have to be through the original sales channels, which may be overseas.
Also, although Porsche GB and the OPCs tolerate indirect imports, they do not like them (witness Porsche Cars contract of co-operation with Porsche Club) and will not necessarily provide the sympathetic/goodwill support, outside of warranty, on cars they have not supplied. My own OPC say they will not retail indirect imports, even C16.
Now that's not to say there is anything wrong with the cars, and many people may have had such cars and been entirely happy. But I would definitely expect to pay less for a car that was not originally supplied by a UK OPC, although this would diminish with time.
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