993c2s to 996GT3- should i do it???
993c2s to 996GT3- should i do it???
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911moo

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39 posts

245 months

Thursday 24th May 2007
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OK guys, here's the problem. After much searching and test driving i've decided the only vehicle i can upgrade to is a GT3. I don't want to start the whole 993 V 996 debate again. However my problem is that i love my 993, perfect condition, history, etc and know i'll miss it if it goes. It is only this affection for the car that is causing me to question the prospective purchase. The GT3 is obviously fantastic, the tipping point has almost been reached but your comments would help... I should also mention that the trader is offering 28k for a '96, full main dealer history, newly serviced and perfect car. Should i be selling it privately and pay cash for the GT3??

Geneve

4,019 posts

249 months

Thursday 24th May 2007
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Can't comment on the price, or the precise car you are buying, but the 996 GT3 is bow

gdunc

196 posts

245 months

Thursday 24th May 2007
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I loved my 993 but the GT3 has it beat in most (if not all areas). I even prefer the looks now (mk1 GT3) over the 993. It's all relative / persoanl preference but I find the 3 to be better to drive as it's more stable, considerably faster, sounds as good (but in a different way) and has a racey feel which makes it a more exciting / involving place to be.

Ballcock

3,855 posts

249 months

Thursday 24th May 2007
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Sell privately...

Whatever the usual palaver about 993/996 , the C2s is a beautiful car and even rarer if it's been kept as you say...
It should sell well , but be ready to deal with bullshit merchants and idiots before you get a sale.
The upside is surely you should pocket minimum £5k by selling privately and buying with cash .

By the way , GT3 sounds like the perfect upgrade , lucky ole you!

ClaphamGT3

12,247 posts

273 months

Thursday 24th May 2007
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If you really want to do it & you think that the GT3 is the right car for you, let me know. I made the swap just over a year ago & deeply regret it - I would happily consider swapping my GT3 for a really good 993 C2/C2s

Paulburrell

648 posts

263 months

Thursday 24th May 2007
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GT3 comes into it's own on the track. If you don't want to do lots of trackdays, stick with the 993.


smilesmilesmile

DanH

12,287 posts

290 months

Thursday 24th May 2007
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Paulburrell said:
GT3 comes into it's own on the track. If you don't want to do lots of trackdays, stick with the 993.


smilesmilesmile
Ding.

As road cars you really need to be in the mood and not stuck in heavy traffic, so by no means a straight swap for a c2s which I'm sure can mix it far better in those circumstances.

My favourite toy ever though! Just don't buy it thinking its the perfect car for town centres or you'll end up coming back as bitter as KayC...

... well maybe not that bitter...

Edited by DanH on Thursday 24th May 21:30

911moo

Original Poster:

39 posts

245 months

Thursday 24th May 2007
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Cheers guys, a great response so quickly. Seems roughly 50/50, and here was i hoping for 90/10 either way!!
Peter, i've sent you an e-mail, we'll talk over the weekend hopefully. Cheers, Guy

911moo

Original Poster:

39 posts

245 months

Thursday 24th May 2007
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... I don't do a commute, and live in the sticks. It's the open roads of Shropshire for me, haven't been in a traffic jam for 5 years!! But i understand what you're saying, definately not a city car...

SunDiver

780 posts

267 months

Thursday 24th May 2007
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What's the mileage and spec on that C2S?

DanH

12,287 posts

290 months

Thursday 24th May 2007
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911moo said:
... I don't do a commute, and live in the sticks. It's the open roads of Shropshire for me, haven't been in a traffic jam for 5 years!! But i understand what you're saying, definately not a city car...
Oh well, sounds like you'll have great fun. Hope the roads are quite flat though otherwise it can feel like a rally stage at times (which is fine when in the mood)

Of course you don't have to have the ride height slammed like JZ or Parr will if you show any inkling to take the car on track wink

VerySideways

10,271 posts

302 months

Thursday 24th May 2007
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If you were ever going to sell a 993 C2S to get a 996 it would have to be a GT3 wouldn't it?
Definitely sell your 2S privately, you'll get £2k more than any trader offers you without even trying, significantly more probably.
You only live once, if you like the GT3 then do it. If you don't you'll always wonder...

911moo

Original Poster:

39 posts

245 months

Friday 25th May 2007
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Sundiver; it's vesuvius, 52k, black leather, full main dealer history from supplying dealer (except last one done at Porsche Centre Chester), documented, air-con (working!), 18'' GT3 split rims fitted by Porsche when previously sold as approved used car in 2000, also new clutch fitted at this time (30k miles- due to bearing issue apparently). Subsequently purchased by me in 2005. It's a corker, hence my post. Looked at lots, most of which were dogs, but i'm very picky. Cheers

The Necessary

20 posts

250 months

Friday 25th May 2007
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I haven't had much experience in 993s, but I can tell ya that I love my Mk1 GT3; even when compared to the 997 GT3/GT3RS. The Mk1 doesn't feel that far behind the 997s on track, lap-time-wise, and the extra rawness actually contributes to a far more special 'feel' if and when you do drive it.

I don't track my Mk1 as often as I'd like to, but driving it on public roads is a very special experience too. In fact, due to the patchy nature of public roads where I am, the bump steer, twitchy rear end and etc. actually contribute to make the Mk1 feel really alive, a real hand full, something you really need to take by the horns and drive! It's not the quickest on public roads, but it's highly satisfying.

I don't think you can go wrong with a Mk1!

gdunc

196 posts

245 months

Friday 25th May 2007
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The Necessary said:
I haven't had much experience in 993s, but I can tell ya that I love my Mk1 GT3; even when compared to the 997 GT3/GT3RS. The Mk1 doesn't feel that far behind the 997s on track, lap-time-wise, and the extra rawness actually contributes to a far more special 'feel' if and when you do drive it.

I don't track my Mk1 as often as I'd like to, but driving it on public roads is a very special experience too. In fact, due to the patchy nature of public roads where I am, the bump steer, twitchy rear end and etc. actually contribute to make the Mk1 feel really alive, a real hand full, something you really need to take by the horns and drive! It's not the quickest on public roads, but it's highly satisfying.

I don't think you can go wrong with a Mk1!
Good shout - a point that many miss with these as road cars. There are quicker a to b cars over British roads (probably most of the rice rockets, TTs etc.) but few as special and rewarding. They are not, and were not designed as, track only cars and are quite at home on road without being exceptional at it. Great fun and hugely involving on road so perfect for a non commuting out for a blat type of drive with an exhillerating exhaust note.

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 25th May 2007
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993c2 vs 996c2
no contest 993 every time

993c2 vs 996gt3
gt3 everytime

smile

C2'S'man

626 posts

253 months

Friday 25th May 2007
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I was in exactly the same predicament last year, when i reluctantly sold my 2s after a wonderful 2 year affair.

But after going to the 'ring' last year, it seemed that every 911 that went past me seemed to have a gt3 badge on it, and that got me thinking.... So I thought and thought, resulting in the sale of the 2s last September and the subsequent aquisition of a mk2 gt3 in January.

Absolutly no regrets whatsoever, the gt3 is truly one the best cars i have ever driven, and most certainly the best i have ever owned!!!! If you go down the gt3 route, and only do a few track days a year, you really will wonder why it took you so long to get one. I use mine on the road, on a regular basis too, like the 2s, very special, but much more modern and totally usable.....

Sell private, good ones will always find a new home; mine went in 4 days!!!!

You watch, when i go the 'ring' in August Ill be overtaken by loads of 911's with 'Carrera S' on their big rumps!!!! biggrin




Steve Rance

5,453 posts

261 months

Friday 25th May 2007
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911moo said:
OK guys, here's the problem. After much searching and test driving i've decided the only vehicle i can upgrade to is a GT3. I don't want to start the whole 993 V 996 debate again. However my problem is that i love my 993, perfect condition, history, etc and know i'll miss it if it goes. It is only this affection for the car that is causing me to question the prospective purchase. The GT3 is obviously fantastic, the tipping point has almost been reached but your comments would help... I should also mention that the trader is offering 28k for a '96, full main dealer history, newly serviced and perfect car. Should i be selling it privately and pay cash for the GT3??
Completely different cars. Almost fundamentally different within the 911 umberella. The answer will be you, ie; what you actually want from it

Steve