Four years left to have fun...?
Four years left to have fun...?
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kent993

Original Poster:

385 posts

274 months

Thursday 7th June 2007
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The CO2 lobby is set to stop manufacturers producing cars that can exceed 100 mph.......

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/europe_dia...

Dr S

5,157 posts

257 months

Thursday 7th June 2007
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Braindead folks in Brussles methinks

chrisw_05

430 posts

245 months

Thursday 7th June 2007
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I cant ever see a law being passed in the UK in my lifetime for this. They need to sort the rest of the world out before they start on cars.....AGAIN!!!! Can you emagine Germany and France agreeing to it? Can you also emagine all the politiains in europe having to have Chauffeur driven electric cars!!!! I think they would miss their high powered Mercs, BMWs, Jags etc etc...

How to kill off and make thousands of people unemployed in one easy step....

Edited by chrisw_05 on Thursday 7th June 09:32

flattotheboards

6,689 posts

237 months

Thursday 7th June 2007
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what a stupid idea, i suppose they will just use limiters like on mercs and beemers though so you could take it off.

Henry-F

4,791 posts

276 months

Thursday 7th June 2007
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I do rather think some of you lot have brought this on yourselves. The good people in Brussels looked at forums like Pistonheads, saw how many people took pot shots at the Cayenne / SUV family of cars saying how it was illogical and there was no just reason for their existence then simply expanded the argument a tiny bit to cover cars that are capable of 100mph, after all why would you need to be able to drive at over 100mph when the speed limit is 70 ?

As I`ve said before we need to stick very closely together and vote as one, minority groups removed one by one can be removed without any effort at all. Minority groups standing together become the majority.

Next on the list will be cars who`s back seats have been rendered un-usable or cars over 699cc that are only 2 seaters.

Track days & motorsport are currently on the green mile awaiting execution.

I desperately hope I`m wrong

Henry

Edited by Henry-F on Thursday 7th June 12:01

johnmaddox

141 posts

243 months

Thursday 7th June 2007
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Didn't they try to limit BHP on M/Bikes a few years ago - I think that went down the plughole as I hope will this latest nonsense.

Dr S

5,157 posts

257 months

Thursday 7th June 2007
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Henry-F said:
Track days & motorsport are currently on the green mile awaiting execution
and this comes at a time where in ultra-green car hating Switzerland parliament appears to be willing to raise the 50+ year old ban on (track based) motorsport...

wildoliver

9,318 posts

247 months

Thursday 7th June 2007
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That would be the same ultra green switzerland that loves high performance motor cars then wink

supermono

7,464 posts

279 months

Thursday 7th June 2007
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Henry-F said:
I do rather think some of you lot have brought this on yourselves. The good people in Brussels looked at forums like Pistonheads, saw how many people took pot shots at the Cayenne / SUV family of cars saying how it was illogical and there was no just reason for their existence then simply expanded the argument a tiny bit to cover cars that are capable of 100mph, after all why would you need to be able to drive at over 100mph when the speed limit is 70 ?

As I`ve said before we need to stick very closely together and vote as one, minority groups removed one by one can be removed without any effort at all. Minority groups standing together become the majority.

Next on the list will be cars who`s back seats have been rendered un-usable or cars over 699cc that are only 2 seaters.

Track days & motorsport are currently on the green mile awaiting execution.

I desperately hope I`m wrong

Henry

Edited by Henry-F on Thursday 7th June 12:01
Totally agree. Ever since this daft Anti-4x4 lobby started up I've made certain and pointed out to anyone 4x4 bashing that they're helping the sandalists to abolish the car with their divide and conquor tactic. It's amazing how easily taken in some people are and even petrolheads are sometimes heard moaning about the scurge of 4x4.

Any attack on motoring, motorcycling, motorsport, anything at all needs to be answered with agression. The science has so much missing as to make these nutters an easy p1ss take anyhow.

SM

Dr S

5,157 posts

257 months

Thursday 7th June 2007
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wildoliver said:
That would be the same ultra green switzerland that loves high performance motor cars then wink
yes, a split personality country. Lots of money that can buy the toys. A majority of people who perceives cars and driving as something horrible...

phelix

4,683 posts

280 months

Thursday 7th June 2007
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Dr S said:
and this comes at a time where in ultra-green car hating Switzerland parliament appears to be willing to raise the 50+ year old ban on (track based) motorsport...
How meaningful is this? Given the population density I can't imagine there are any circuits left unless a military airfield can be converted.

Dr S

5,157 posts

257 months

Thursday 7th June 2007
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phelix said:
Dr S said:
and this comes at a time where in ultra-green car hating Switzerland parliament appears to be willing to raise the 50+ year old ban on (track based) motorsport...
How meaningful is this? Given the population density I can't imagine there are any circuits left unless a military airfield can be converted.
Not much will happen, I agree. For the Swiss it is, however, already a massive achievement to consider abolishing this stupid law

Edited by Dr S on Thursday 7th June 16:10

Police State

4,379 posts

251 months

Thursday 7th June 2007
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Dr S said:
Braindead folks in Brussles methinks
Brain dead folk in the UK for allowing the EU monster to emerge unchallenged methinks.

this is just the beginning; we ain't see nothing yet folks...

nel

4,830 posts

272 months

Friday 8th June 2007
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johnmaddox said:
Didn't they try to limit BHP on M/Bikes a few years ago - I think that went down the plughole as I hope will this latest nonsense.
France have a law limiting bike output to 100 bhp. And it was a froggy politician that suggested limiting the top speeds of all the cars in Europe....

Never thought I'd say it, but thank god for the Germans who will fight this tooth and nail.

911fan

438 posts

291 months

Friday 8th June 2007
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kent993 said:
The CO2 lobby is set to stop manufacturers producing cars that can exceed 100 mph.......

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/europe_dia...
Loophole to that law for motorists: Tippex all numbers after 90mph from the speedo.

Lostusernamedamn

4,364 posts

237 months

Friday 8th June 2007
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As a couple have said above - don't fall for the old divide and rule trick. Stay supportive of all - off roaders, bikers, 4*4s the lot. Don't let them pick off groups one by one.

PJS917

1,194 posts

279 months

Friday 8th June 2007
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I don’t really like 4X4’s used as normal road cars, but I will defend the right of the individual to buy and drive one if that is what they want. United we stand, divided we will fall.

bcnrml

2,107 posts

241 months

Saturday 9th June 2007
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Henry-F said:
I do rather think some of you lot have brought this on yourselves. The good people in Brussels looked at forums like Pistonheads, saw how many people took pot shots at the Cayenne / SUV family of cars saying how it was illogical and there was no just reason for their existence then simply expanded the argument a tiny bit to cover cars that are capable of 100mph, after all why would you need to be able to drive at over 100mph when the speed limit is 70 ?

As I`ve said before we need to stick very closely together and vote as one, minority groups removed one by one can be removed without any effort at all. Minority groups standing together become the majority.

Next on the list will be cars who`s back seats have been rendered un-usable or cars over 699cc that are only 2 seaters.

Track days & motorsport are currently on the green mile awaiting execution.

I desperately hope I`m wrong

Henry

Edited by Henry-F on Thursday 7th June 12:01
Henry, please don't blame Brussels for what we trigger-happy Brits do and allow to be done in our names. If the EU is coming down hard on motoring, it is mostly for safety related reasons in countries where fatality rates are comparatively high.

Should we blame Brussels for the zealotry that spawned this Telegraph headline? "Congestion charge schemes will target motorcycles". http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/main.jhtml?xml...

We in Blighty allow our politicians to freely persecute motoring, despite our comparatively exemplary records, and we pay up all the time.

Like you I tried to get this forum's members to do something about it (there must be enough of us on here to swing a few seats at elections), but we seem more interested in slagging each other off (cars vs bikes, 993s vs 996s, private sales vs indie dealers, including some especially unhelpful vitriol, sometimes targeted at you). Shouldn't this be pointed elsewhere?

So let's leave Brussels out of it. Do you think a congestion charge on motorbikes would even be mooted by local politicians where I now live (or by the EU)? Quickest way to commit political suicide, associated with not insignificant economic damage.

Enjoy your porkers (and all motoring) whilst you still can!

Chris71

21,549 posts

273 months

Saturday 9th June 2007
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As long as it can get there in 8 seconds, I wouldn't mind a car that only does 100mph wink