c4s warning service brake pads message
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Hi Folks
I'm a newbie c4s person after a bit of advice/help.
whilst driving along this morning a message "service - disk pads worn" (or something very similar) was displayed.
Just wondering what the leeway time on having this done is ? does this message display when they are 80% worn maybe ? have i got a few more miles before i need to get them done ? front or rear , or both ? sounds expensive
Any recommendations on where to have this done ? OPC or Recommend a good Indy, I'm based in the midlands.
Thanks in advance folks and any advice is much appreciated
d
I'm a newbie c4s person after a bit of advice/help.
whilst driving along this morning a message "service - disk pads worn" (or something very similar) was displayed.
Just wondering what the leeway time on having this done is ? does this message display when they are 80% worn maybe ? have i got a few more miles before i need to get them done ? front or rear , or both ? sounds expensive
Any recommendations on where to have this done ? OPC or Recommend a good Indy, I'm based in the midlands.
Thanks in advance folks and any advice is much appreciated
d
Easily more than 80% worn. While you may have a couple of hundred easy miles left on them, from now on your brake sensors will be wearing down, so the longer you leave it, the more likely you will have to replace those too, and your pads will now be performing significantly worse.
Get some pads from eurocarparts (Textar)and fit them yourself
http://www.bombaydigital.com/boxster/projects/brak...
Its a half hour job per wheel.
Get some pads from eurocarparts (Textar)and fit them yourself
http://www.bombaydigital.com/boxster/projects/brak...
Its a half hour job per wheel.
I suggest you do them yourself using original Porsche parts or have them done at an Indy. Either way you wills save significant money over what an OPC will charge.
In the Midlands you have several Indys to choose from:-
PCT in Coventry ( I use them myself - good but expensive)
Porsche Tec in Meriden
Porsche Shop Halesowen area
Two Plus Two Halesowen area
Good luck.
pp
In the Midlands you have several Indys to choose from:-
PCT in Coventry ( I use them myself - good but expensive)
Porsche Tec in Meriden
Porsche Shop Halesowen area
Two Plus Two Halesowen area
Good luck.
pp
Mousem40 said:
Easily more than 80% worn. While you may have a couple of hundred easy miles left on them, from now on your brake sensors will be wearing down, so the longer you leave it, the more likely you will have to replace those too, and your pads will now be performing significantly worse.
Get some pads from eurocarparts (Textar)and fit them yourself
http://www.bombaydigital.com/boxster/projects/brak...
Its a half hour job per wheel.
The brake pad sensors are already worn through. The indicator goes on when the sensor's wire is broken.Get some pads from eurocarparts (Textar)and fit them yourself
http://www.bombaydigital.com/boxster/projects/brak...
Its a half hour job per wheel.
The brake pad sensors are located in a hole made for it at the end of the pad. The warning light comes on as soon as the pad wears through to the sensor so the sensor is now making contact with the disk. The sensors are fairly thick and will not totally wear through for around 200 miles or so.
However, as the sensor begins to wear it becomes harder to prize it off the pad, and makes changing pads a bit harder, so I'd always suggest you change pads before the sensor makes contact with the disk triggering the warning. At 80% wear the sensor will not trigger, at a guess it's more like 90% wear.
However, as the sensor begins to wear it becomes harder to prize it off the pad, and makes changing pads a bit harder, so I'd always suggest you change pads before the sensor makes contact with the disk triggering the warning. At 80% wear the sensor will not trigger, at a guess it's more like 90% wear.
Edited by Mousem40 on Wednesday 20th June 00:58
Definitely go with an Indy or DIY.
For comparison, OPC price on Cayman S is nearly £620 for all round pads change.
I bought the pads and sensors myself from the US for £180 and with no prior experience, a free toolset I got from Rapid Racking, a £19 Jack from ScrewFix and some instructions downloaded off the net, we did the whole job in under and hour and a half. It is NOT rocket science.
Factor into that, if you take it the OPC they will invariably try to stich you fr new disks (recommended to me to change disks and pads at 19000 miles! only just replaced front disks at 28000 miles and they are still only 1/2 way between upper and lower thickness limits for Porsche guidlines) and DIY or good Indy will save you a packet on a job that a monkey could do blindfolded.
Jack
For comparison, OPC price on Cayman S is nearly £620 for all round pads change.
I bought the pads and sensors myself from the US for £180 and with no prior experience, a free toolset I got from Rapid Racking, a £19 Jack from ScrewFix and some instructions downloaded off the net, we did the whole job in under and hour and a half. It is NOT rocket science.
Factor into that, if you take it the OPC they will invariably try to stich you fr new disks (recommended to me to change disks and pads at 19000 miles! only just replaced front disks at 28000 miles and they are still only 1/2 way between upper and lower thickness limits for Porsche guidlines) and DIY or good Indy will save you a packet on a job that a monkey could do blindfolded.
Jack
Thanks folks for all taking the time and effort for helping me out with this one.
I did ring OPC and they were saying on the phone "and if the disks need replacing , which is often the case....". yikes !!
I will take it to Meriden to get opinion on which or all of the pads need doing and then go from there. If I order my own pads , should i go with Porsche pads or would you go for cheaper option , Lucas or "green stuff" ? or "red stuff" ??
Thanks for all your help chaps
d
I did ring OPC and they were saying on the phone "and if the disks need replacing , which is often the case....". yikes !!
I will take it to Meriden to get opinion on which or all of the pads need doing and then go from there. If I order my own pads , should i go with Porsche pads or would you go for cheaper option , Lucas or "green stuff" ? or "red stuff" ??
Thanks for all your help chaps
d
I'd say log onto www.eurocarparts.com and go for the 'Textar' pads .. they cost £57.75 (to be exact!) and brake disks , if you need em cost about double for two.
Textar make the OEM pads. I wouldn't go with anything cheeper, but don't buy them from an OPC. See above link. That is a decent price for pads.
If you don't want to get skanked by an OPC or Indy on the disks, find out what the disk thickness is from new (like 28mm thickness, anybody here know the 996 disk specs?) then get a measurement for the disk on the car. Minimum thickness on Porsche disks seems to be 2mm below starting thickness. If they start at, say, 28mm, and they now measure 26-27mm, it's probably worth getting them changed at the same time.
Jack
If you don't want to get skanked by an OPC or Indy on the disks, find out what the disk thickness is from new (like 28mm thickness, anybody here know the 996 disk specs?) then get a measurement for the disk on the car. Minimum thickness on Porsche disks seems to be 2mm below starting thickness. If they start at, say, 28mm, and they now measure 26-27mm, it's probably worth getting them changed at the same time.
Jack
Design911 are also doing a good deal on Serbo discs and Textar pads all in, I just paid 179 plus VAT for complete front set (2 X pads, discs, sensors and all shims):
http://www.design911.co.uk/index.htm?Region=UK
http://www.design911.co.uk/index.htm?Region=UK
I beg to differ on the subject of sourcing non Porsche parts. Textar, ATE or Zimmerman may make the original pads and discs for Porsche but this does not mean that they sell exactly the same specification of parts through EuroCarparts or other distributors.
Threads on Rennlist suggest there is a significant difference in the performance of Textar branded pads and Zimmerman discs when compared with the Porsche branded parts.
I would always source genuine Porsche parts (in a Porsche box) and save the money on the fitting cost.
Just my opinion.
pp
Threads on Rennlist suggest there is a significant difference in the performance of Textar branded pads and Zimmerman discs when compared with the Porsche branded parts.
I would always source genuine Porsche parts (in a Porsche box) and save the money on the fitting cost.
Just my opinion.
pp
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