The £20k 996
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PhillF

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814 posts

246 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2007
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Opinions on a £20k 996? There are a few at just over this in the Classifieds which caught my attention.

A bottomless pit of money or a performance bargain?

rossfitz

501 posts

282 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2007
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IMO either needs an OPC warranty or proof that main issues have been rectified at some point eg Intermediate shaft bearing, cylinder heads and any other well documented engine problem areas.

4 months ago I bought privately a 996 C2 1999 at 73K miles with 1 years OPC warranty at £22K.

2 months ago I had £13K worth of engine rebuild (under warranty) as a result of a diagnosis of 'imminent catastrophic engine failure' This was discovered following a warranty RMS fix.

Get it wrong and I believe it can be painful.

kayc

4,492 posts

252 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2007
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PhillF said:
Opinions on a £20k 996? There are a few at just over this in the Classifieds which caught my attention.

A bottomless pit of money or a performance bargain?
I wouldnt say it was a bottomless pit..however with Evo 6's trading at 12k i wouldnt call it a performance bargain either..

Ragtop

919 posts

276 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2007
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13k?

You could have bought a new (and uprated) engine for that.

Lurking Lawyer

4,535 posts

256 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2007
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At that kind of price, it's almost certainly going to be a high-miler so I'd want to see evidence of a full OPC/recognised indie service history and wouldn't consider it without a thorough pre-purchase inspection and a decent (for which read OPC) warranty.

There have been a number of threads about £20K 996s over the past few months. Admittedly, they usually degenerate into the usual 993 -v- 996 slanging match but they may be worth a search for the earlier posts before the argument almost inevitably turns to air-cooled versus water-cooled residuals.....

anonymous-user

85 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2007
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you could get a nice 993 for that money hehe










sorry

Fidgits

17,202 posts

260 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2007
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I had a 20k-ish 996 - as said, if it has a FSH and has been looked after, it shouldnt be a problem.

A warranty is handy for peace of mind...

PhillF

Original Poster:

814 posts

246 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2007
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rossfitz said:
IMO either needs an OPC warranty or proof that main issues have been rectified at some point eg Intermediate shaft bearing, cylinder heads and any other well documented engine problem areas.

4 months ago I bought privately a 996 C2 1999 at 73K miles with 1 years OPC warranty at £22K.

2 months ago I had £13K worth of engine rebuild (under warranty) as a result of a diagnosis of 'imminent catastrophic engine failure' This was discovered following a warranty RMS fix.

Get it wrong and I believe it can be painful.
This interests/worries me. Was it a problem for it to be covered under warranty?

Are there any conditions which need to be met to buy an OPC warrenty? I.e. does it have to have had an OPC warrenty since new, must have been OPC serviced etc?

I'll also dig out the older threads.

Thanks again.

Lurking Lawyer

4,535 posts

256 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2007
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PhillF said:
Are there any conditions which need to be met to buy an OPC warrenty? I.e. does it have to have had an OPC warrenty since new, must have been OPC serviced etc?
Any car up to 9 years or 125K miles can have an OPC warranty taken out on it.

As I understand it, the only requirement is to have the car put through an OPC 111 point check. You then have to have remedial work done to rectify problems identified by the check before the warranty can be applied, or accept that the warranty will exclude those items. Current cost is £895 p.a.

It doesn't need to have been OPC serviced, or indeed to be serviced by an OPC going forwards, as long genuine Porsche parts have been/are used going forwards.

jimi

521 posts

294 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2007
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I dont think there will be many probs with it for being £20k. It will be the age, mileage and spec that cause the price. I think there are a lot of good ones for that money, with 70k ish on. Thats fine. Its just run in!

rossfitz

501 posts

282 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2007
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It's obviously easier to buy a car that has warranty already on it. Simply a case of renewing with a phone call before it runs out. Need to buy privately though as I believe an independent is not officially allowed to sell on a cars OPC warranty.

As has been said, no real dramas getting warranty post 111 point check.

Gemsbok1000

1,958 posts

235 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2007
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Hi Ross

Thought I might bump into you on here one day!

I can't tell you how relieved I was that there was a warranty on the car. I'm just really sorry you lost the use for it for a couple of months - must've been really frustrating. How does it drive now it has a new engine?

Nick

rossfitz

501 posts

282 months

Wednesday 4th July 2007
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Hi Nick

Have you bought another (very understandable)?

Honestly, don't worry about the rebuild. If anything it's made the experience even better. It certainly felt tighter when I picked up. Can't believe I waited so long to get one and am very happy. Had some xenon lights fitted which are great and am about to install airbag deactivator in order to keep her for when junior arrives in October. Must be love as I've just bought a Zymol kit and with wifey away on Saturday, guess what I'm doing...

Ross




ATG

23,837 posts

303 months

Wednesday 4th July 2007
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sorry for numpty question ... what creates the requirement for one of these 111 point checks? For example, if the car has always been covered by a warranty, can you keep renewing the warranty each year without one of these checks until you hit the age/mileage limit?

Adam B

29,755 posts

285 months

Wednesday 4th July 2007
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ATG said:
sorry for numpty question ... what creates the requirement for one of these 111 point checks? For example, if the car has always been covered by a warranty, can you keep renewing the warranty each year without one of these checks until you hit the age/mileage limit?
Yes. You need a 111 point check if there has been a break in the warranty (think there may be a grace period of a few weeks)

shadowninja

80,154 posts

313 months

Wednesday 4th July 2007
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How much is an OPC warranty then?

PhillF

Original Poster:

814 posts

246 months

Wednesday 4th July 2007
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£895 p.a. for warranty.

Can anyone tell me about the 111 point check? How does this work? Does the seller take the car along and get it done before the sale goes through?

How much does the check cost?

Paracetamol

4,267 posts

275 months

Wednesday 4th July 2007
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now.... a £20k 996 with a properly rebuilt engine would be a nice prospect. Anyone know how the autofarm rebuilds are faring?

PhillF

Original Poster:

814 posts

246 months

Wednesday 4th July 2007
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Can anyone help with details of the 111 point check?

madras

329 posts

240 months

Wednesday 4th July 2007
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PhillF said:
Can anyone help with details of the 111 point check?
Just call Porsche and ask them what it includes. I don't think I'd trust it to buy a car on, I'd be more interested in how it actually drove, history, current owner, money spent on it etc.

or get an independant to check it like peter morgan.