944 brake + other upgrades?
944 brake + other upgrades?
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ihatesissycars

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951 posts

233 months

Tuesday 10th July 2007
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Hi all,

Is there any easy brake upgrades available for early (1984) 944's?

Eg, brakes from another porsche that bolt on etc

Or any other easy upgrades in the handling dept?

Thanks!

Gav

Conian

8,030 posts

232 months

Tuesday 10th July 2007
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Later model 944 had Brembo bits that will bolt on, but word has it that they work well when theyre working well, but need more care than the standard Porsche lumps of metal.

An easy alternative is to nick some bits off the 928. Those brakes were considered 'mighty' at the time... and i can testify to a full 4 wheel panic braking lock-up down a country lane when i had a 928S.

All costly, just whack some new disks and grippier pads into it, it's not as ive 944's are really quick enough to need uber-breaks and the standard jobs are more than capable of locking the wheels up!

NJH

3,021 posts

240 months

Tuesday 10th July 2007
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ISTR there is a Willwood kit for the early 944 sold by ppl like Promax.

Loads of shocks for early 944 I believe you can get Koni, Bilstein and Spax options that will likely give much better handling then stock setup for not a huge amount of money. My personal feeling on this subject is to always start with the shocks first, assuming all the bushes and mounts are OK.

NJH

3,021 posts

240 months

Tuesday 10th July 2007
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NJH said:
ISTR there is a Willwood kit for the early 944 sold by ppl like Promax.

Loads of shocks for early 944 I believe you can get Koni, Bilstein and Spax options that will likely give much better handling then stock setup for not a huge amount of money. My personal feeling on this subject is to always start with the shocks first, assuming all the bushes and mounts are OK.
Forgot to say that this would likely be inserts on the front if Koni or Bilstein in order to keep costs down.

shoestring7

6,196 posts

277 months

Tuesday 10th July 2007
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NJH said:
NJH said:
ISTR there is a Willwood kit for the early 944 sold by ppl like Promax.

Loads of shocks for early 944 I believe you can get Koni, Bilstein and Spax options that will likely give much better handling then stock setup for not a huge amount of money. My personal feeling on this subject is to always start with the shocks first, assuming all the bushes and mounts are OK.
Forgot to say that this would likely be inserts on the front if Koni or Bilstein in order to keep costs down.
The Koni yellow Sport dampers are worth every penny of the ~£380 they cost.

SS7

ihatesissycars

Original Poster:

951 posts

233 months

Tuesday 31st July 2007
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Me again, the yellow sport dampers, where can I get them from?

Gav

james S

1,620 posts

276 months

Tuesday 31st July 2007
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Beefier ARBs make a big differnce.Promax is a good place to start with 944s

AndyS2

869 posts

289 months

Tuesday 31st July 2007
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I have a break kit for a 944 for sale. It's for an S2 but I'm not sure if the hubs are the same on the early one. If you can find out I've got huge 965 drilled discs with Mk1 GT3 calipers, mounting brackets and pads.

ihatesissycars

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951 posts

233 months

Tuesday 31st July 2007
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Any chance of a pic? What sort of condition are they in and what model were they fitted too?

Ref brakes I've been looking at the kit Porschshop do, Its 835+vat on the website but they said they'd do it for £800 for me all inc which was good as it includes the bigger discs, porsche calipers (not wilwood) and other req'd bits!

DoctorPepper

5,560 posts

269 months

Tuesday 31st July 2007
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Call Kevin or Alex at EMC in Birmingham... general wizards in all things 944 and performance related. 0121 3282225

ihatesissycars

Original Poster:

951 posts

233 months

Tuesday 31st July 2007
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Also, these dampers, is it just the inserts I want or a complete strut and spring kit?

Also, I'm guessing that the turbo's have the thickedt anti roll bars, are these a direct fit to mine?

Edited by ihatesissycars on Tuesday 31st July 14:40

NJH

3,021 posts

240 months

Tuesday 31st July 2007
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ihatesissycars said:
Also, these dampers, is it just the inserts I want or a complete strut and spring kit?

Also, I'm guessing that the turbo's have the thickedt anti roll bars, are these a direct fit to mine?

Edited by ihatesissycars on Tuesday 31st July 14:40
AFAIK on early 944 you don't have to cut the strut body to put a new insert in so should be fairly straightforward. The route to take is down to yourself really and how much money you want to spend. I would phone Bert Gear at Berlyn Services and just discuss with him the available options.

Personally I think that 400 quid odd for a complete koni strut is crazy money when you can get KW v3 systems for all 4 corners for roughly 3 times that including all the platforms, springs etc.

again AFAIK you can fit any of the latter 944/968 ARB onto any 924 or 944 series car with the appropriate mounts and bushes.

I have a front S2 anti-roll bar (27.2 mm hollow) if you want it PM me it is in the Northampton area, bung me Mum or me brother a fiver for it and take it away.

ihatesissycars

Original Poster:

951 posts

233 months

Tuesday 31st July 2007
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The Koni suspension kits include struts, dampers and springs and are £435 + vat, I though that was good?

I would have that a/r/b but I'm miles away from you dammit!!!!

I've replaced the dampers already with standard units from a factors which has improved things as the others were worn but its still wobbly and rolly when you're going for it but yes they are removeable by way of undoing a threaded collar.

AndyS2

869 posts

289 months

Tuesday 31st July 2007
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If you need any more info, let me know.

Andy

AndyS2

869 posts

289 months

Tuesday 31st July 2007
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Thats the condition they are still in too, I never got round to fitting them to my car and I've sold it now.

ihatesissycars

Original Poster:

951 posts

233 months

Tuesday 31st July 2007
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Ref the discs are they intended to fit between the wheel and hub or on the back of the hub?

AndyS2

869 posts

289 months

Tuesday 31st July 2007
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Between the wheel and the hub. The top picture is of them bolted to a 944S2 hub.

ihatesissycars

Original Poster:

951 posts

233 months

Monday 6th August 2007
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Unfortunately it seems that your bits are a no go DAMMIT!

Thanks for your time with it though.

I may well be chopping mine in to get a 3.0 944 so if I do I'll drop you a line then!