911 not well help needed please!!

[Zanderman]

Hi all,

I have just taken my 2002 996 911 to my local specialst as I had a problem with the ABS and PSM light coming on in the car and a 'failure, take to garage' type message.

I have just been infomed by my local specialist that that it is the Hydraulic unit for the ABS that need replacing as there maybe a faulty pressure valve/sensor fault or maybe the pump (apprently it is difficult to establish the exact part but Porsche recommed the entire unit be replaced)

Apparently they need to replace the entire Hydraulic unit evn if it just a problem with the sensor. Thats going to cost me £2000 + and I really could do without that right now (for reasons I wont go into!!).

They have said that I could dowithout the but but I would have no PSM and no ABS which is not ideal!!

Has any heard of this? Does it sound reasonable? Is there anyway of getting this done cheaper etc?

Thanks for any help/advice!!

[Zanderman]

[Conian]

Zanderman said:

i know nowt about 911's...
does the ABS not work? If you could establish that ABS and PSM both work despite the warning light, you may have some hope that it's just the sensor, and seek to replace that part only.

I hate ABS personally, only had 1 car with it on, and only needed it once... I stamped the brake pedal thinking 'my ABS will let me steer out of this' next thing i remember is an red light on my dash saying ABS FAILURE and then i remember the tree... the world being upside down... then the towtruck...

[chris_w]

If the car's driveable, and it sounds like it is, I'd take it to an indie and get a second opinion before stumping up that kind of money. Can't comment on the problem itself but soundslike a lot of money to me too!

[egbert]

i believe the abs sensors can be changed individually, definitely get a second opinion, especially with the abs-psm light, it maybe just a MAF.

[Vesuvius 996]

chris_w said:

If the car's driveable, and it sounds like it is, I'd take it to an indie and get a second opinion before stumping up that kind of money. Can't comment on the problem itself but soundslike a lot of money to me too!

He's taken it to an indy.

Any warranty?

[Zanderman]

Sadly this is from an indie.........

Having said that so far I have been able to find the part for £500 cheaper than they have quoted me. Also found a place in the US that will do it for £500 cheaper than that (if its for real and they ship to the UK??) so fingers crossed...........

Still represents a massive amount of money for something that seems so insignifacnt!!

[Zanderman]

Sadly no

Vesuvius 996 said:

chris_w said:

If the car's driveable, and it sounds like it is, I'd take it to an indie and get a second opinion before stumping up that kind of money. Can't comment on the problem itself but soundslike a lot of money to me too!

He's taken it to an indy.

Any warranty?

[Zanderman]

What is a MAF?

egbert said:

i believe the abs sensors can be changed individually, definitely get a second opinion, especially with the abs-psm light, it maybe just a MAF.

[Silver993tt]

Zanderman said:

What is a MAF?

egbert said:

i believe the abs sensors can be changed individually, definitely get a second opinion, especially with the abs-psm light, it maybe just a MAF.

Mass Air Flow (sensor/meter)

[SNDa]

Mass Airflow Sensor

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=417713&hw=++MAF 

Edited by SNDa on Thursday 2nd August 15:09

[Zanderman]

Well apprenly its not the MAS and is definatelythe Hydraulic thingy.......

Anyone know the cheapest place to import in Porsche parts? Seems like on the continent and in the US parts are a damn sight cheaper!!

[dava]

I had this on my 986S. Took it to Jon Mitchell in Christchurch, who diagnosed a fused wheel speed sensor.

[chris_w]

Vesuvius 996 said:

chris_w said:

If the car's driveable, and it sounds like it is, I'd take it to an indie and get a second opinion before stumping up that kind of money. Can't comment on the problem itself but soundslike a lot of money to me too!

He's taken it to an indy.

Any warranty?

Must learn to read It was the outrageous quote for something seemingly quite trivial that threw me...

[egbert]

Zanderman said:

Well apprenly its not the MAS and is definatelythe Hydraulic thingy.......

Anyone know the cheapest place to import in Porsche parts? Seems like on the continent and in the US parts are a damn sight cheaper!!

get a second opinion

[996TT-MAC]

Hi,

I had the exact same lights and message coming up last week, I drive a 996TT, it was 2 split hoses on the turbo's that caused it, nothin to do with ABS.

Even better warranty looked after it

I'd definatley get a second opion, maybe even use an OPC to get a diagnostic.

[Zanderman]

Sadly I dont think there are any other places to take it anywhere near. Swindon OPC want to charge me a minimum of £250 to have a look at it (more if they cant find the fault in 2 hours......)

[malariaman]

Take it for a drive to Germany!!! At least you won't get ripped off and you can stop off in Belgium for a Duvel or two + buy the good lady a box of chocs. Legally blast the cobwebs away - see what it will do + test the ABS at 150 MPH.

[Vesuvius 996]

Zanderman said:

Sadly I dont think there are any other places to take it anywhere near. Swindon OPC want to charge me a minimum of £250 to have a look at it (more if they cant find the fault in 2 hours......)

Go to a different OPC. One of the ones who aren't pi55 rippers will happily get it in the workshop and run a diagnostic free of charge. Try Cambridge.

[Grant3]

egbert said:

definitely get a second opinion, especially with the abs-psm light, it maybe just a MAF.

I agree & also with Vesuvius996 about Cambridge!

Edited by Grant3 on Friday 3rd August 10:07