PORSCHE GLOBAL PRICING????????!!

[IMI A]

Can anyone explain why a new Carrera in USA/Middle Easts costs £35k new????!!!! Same story with Turbo and RS Circa £60k. GT3 £55k i.e half the money here net to the customer!!!!!! Just been on official websites - think we're getting f@@@ing raw deal here in the UK to say the least!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dilbert]

Keeps residuals nice and meaty though!

[dazren]

dilbert said:

Keeps residuals nice and meaty though!

I'd disagree with that.

[pastrana72]

no way, that is stunning, confirms that europe is a very expensive place in the views of visitors,

i want a 35k 997 (in my dreams)

[Koln-RS]

I would imagine that there is some 'strategic' pricing, but taxes and exchange rates must distort the comparisons.

[IMI A]

what so you can buy two cars for the price of one in the US? don't think taxes etc distort to that extent

[dilbert]

dazren said:

dilbert said:

Keeps residuals nice and meaty though!

I'd disagree with that.

Hmmm.... I guess that depends on where you're coming from!

[damiangt3]

IMI A said:

Can anyone explain why a new Carrera in USA/Middle Easts costs £35k new????!!!! Same story with Turbo and RS Circa £60k. GT3 £55k i.e half the money here net to the customer!!!!!! Just been on official websites - think we're getting f@@@ing raw deal here in the UK to say the least!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The US could have local and luxury taxes applied, you wouldn't see these on the price but come 'checkout' they'll be applied

[dilbert]

I suppose I ought to point out that I've never made as much money, as I expect most people here have lost on their motorcars!
:yay:

[ADDLED]

dilbert said:

dazren said:

dilbert said:

Keeps residuals nice and meaty though!

I'd disagree with that.

Hmmm.... I guess that depends on where you're coming from!

I have no proof/confirmation of the US/ME prices, but I would rather pay 35k, invest the other 35k for the 3 yrs I keep the car and bugger the residual. OR buy a £60k turbo and re-sell here in the uk for perhaps £80k as an ME car it will be a right hooker anyhow. I also heard though that fully specced 997 Turbos go for £10k in Kabul. BUT... it will stink of goat poo, have no FPSH, have been run on 75RON or clarified butter and comes complete with 7 'wives' in the back telling you to take them shopping at the nearest Louis Vuitton for a new handbag.

[dilbert]

ADDLED said:

dilbert said:

dazren said:

dilbert said:

Keeps residuals nice and meaty though!

I'd disagree with that.

Hmmm.... I guess that depends on where you're coming from!

I have no proof/confirmation of the US/ME prices, but I would rather pay 35k, invest the other 35k for the 3 yrs I keep the car and bugger the residual. OR buy a £60k turbo and re-sell here in the uk for perhaps £80k as an ME car it will be a right hooker anyhow. I also heard though that fully specced 997 Turbos go for £10k in Kabul. BUT... it will stink of goat poo, have no FPSH, have been run on 75RON or clarified butter and comes complete with 7 'wives' in the back telling you to take them shopping at the nearest Louis Vuitton for a new handbag.

Double hmmmm......

The seven wives sounds particularly appalling!

[Steve_M]

I moved to the US last year, I bought a 2002 996TT nicely modded with 25k miles and pristine condition for $76000 on the road, I sold a turbo in the UK before I left and was pretty much shafted I thought selling a 2002 996TT with 27k miles for £48k, which I bought 6 months earlier for £60k. but it went to a dealer in the end for cash so expected that.

2nd hand 997TTs are going for anything between $124k and $140k depending on colour, spec, mileage and location.
Here in Texas you pay 6.25% sales tax on vehicles and the usual title and registration which comes to about $500.

997 GT3s with delivery mileage are going for around $170-$180k, GT3 RSs are going for around the $200k and up and a 997 Carrera is gong for anything from $70k for a base Carrera up to $90 for a Carrera S cabriolet.

I think a while back i spec'd a new 997TT on the US site and with tax and everything on the road here in Texas I'd save around £30k on a UK car.

[JKay]

IMI A said:

think we're getting f@@@ing raw deal here in the UK to say the least!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cars in the UK are actually quite cheap.

Not cheaper than the USA I agree, but a lot cheaper than many other countries.

Take the Far East for example. A 997 is close to £170,000 and thats not brand new, and a bank manager there would probably be on £18,000 a year. Fresh graduate job pays around £3-4 k per year.

Even a used Boxster is around £60,000.

A Focus would cost you £20k. A BMW 645Ci is around £120,000.

Andthe lower cost of living doesnt make a difference when you're only on around £15,000 a year and you want to buy a 997 for £170k.

Click on Used Cars in Malaysia. The Boxster there only has around 100 miles on it but costs £77,000 .

http://www.porsche.com/pap/_malaysia_/aboutporsche...

Australia not cheap either, bt cheaper than Malaysia. £111k for a 997 Cab? (Link doesnt work but take my word for it). Its on www.carsales.com.au

Convert here

www.xe.com/ucc

Still think you are getting a raw deal?

JayK

Edited by JKay on Sunday 2nd September 18:57

Edited by JKay on Sunday 2nd September 18:59

[IMI A]

Still in comparison to £60-£70k in UAE/USA its still a raw deal. Cost of living in Malaysia is much much cheaper hence people probably have enough change left over to by sporting cars! Compare the price of a 3 bed flat in the middle of KL to the middle of London. What car have you bought yourself in the Uk thats such good value??

[JKay]

IMI A said:

Still in comparison to £60-£70k in UAE/USA its still a raw deal. Cost of living in Malaysia is much much cheaper hence people probably have enough change left over to by sporting cars! Compare the price of a 3 bed flat in the middle of KL to the middle of London. What car have you bought yourself in the Uk thats such good value??

I do agree with you that there shouldnt be such a big difference for the same car in different countries.

They are ripping us off, but was just hoping to make you feel a little better knowing in some parts of the world ppl are being charged £170k for a new(ish) 997.

However, even with the lower cost of living in Malaysia, imagine earning £20k a year, and having to pay £170k for a 997 or over £75k for a Boxster. Even if you had a free place to stay and all bills etc paid for, it would still be rather difficult I think.

As a result, there are much fewer nice cars on the road over there. They are much less affordable to the wage earner

Edited by JKay on Sunday 2nd September 19:10

[Silver993tt]

The market in the US is far larger for these types of cars tha the UK. Simple business rules apply really, if you sell more units you can sell them at a lower price and make more profit.

[GreigM]

Silver993tt said:

The market in the US is far larger for these types of cars tha the UK. Simple business rules apply really, if you sell more units you can sell them at a lower price and make more profit.

But surely they are fundamentally the same unit rolling off the same production line - the RHD market production changes don't cost that much on top conisdering all the customisation options anyway!?

[JKay]

GreigM said:

Silver993tt said:

The market in the US is far larger for these types of cars tha the UK. Simple business rules apply really, if you sell more units you can sell them at a lower price and make more profit.

But surely they are fundamentally the same unit rolling off the same production line - the RHD market production changes don't cost that much on top conisdering all the customisation options anyway!?

In Malaysia its jsst a case of the Government putting sky high import tax on the cars, nothing else. Australia as well have LCT, luxury car tax. I dont think its that much to do with supply and demand personally.

£77k for a Boxster, £170k for a 997 !! The UK aint that bad after all is it

[JKay]

LOOK HERE FOR EXAMPLES PORSCHE PRICING IN SOME OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD IF YOU THINK THE UK IS EXPENSIVE

http://paultan.org/archives/2007/03/27/updated-por...

In £ this is what it equates to (I believe this is without any options)

Boxster - £73k
Boxster S - £84,910
Cayman S - £94,000
Carrera S - £133,700
Turbo - £191,000

Then you have options to think about. With options the Turbo would probably be close to £200k

What do you reckon to those prices? Think about that next time you think you are being shafted with car prices here in the UK

Edited by JKay on Monday 3rd September 14:28

Edited by JKay on Monday 3rd September 14:28

[Jappo]

JKay said:

LOOK HERE FOR EXAMPLES PORSCHE PRICING IN SOME OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD IF YOU THINK THE UK IS EXPENSIVE

http://paultan.org/archives/2007/03/27/updated-por...

In £ this is what it equates to (I believe this is without any options)

Boxster - £73k
Boxster S - £84,910
Cayman S - £94,000
Carrera S - £133,700
Turbo - £191,000

Then you have options to think about. With options the Turbo would probably be close to £200k

What do you reckon to those prices? Think about that next time you think you are being shafted with car prices here in the UK

Edited by JKay on Monday 3rd September 14:28

Edited by JKay on Monday 3rd September 14:28

Scandiwegia by any chance? Most of it is tax. But tax differejtials don't totally explain away US prices, consumer power, on the other hand, does. Americans vote with their wallets.