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... some help please!
We are considering a 911 - we have twins aged 3 and a bit, the car must be roofless and auto, ideally also 4wd and under £25k. Stop laughing please.
Those who thought this may be a real-mans-driving/Nurburgring thread, please hit the 'back' button on your web browser now.
Still reading? We have been considering E46 M3/330's or something sensible along those lines, but for a few dollars more... and a few dollars less depreciation
So, sad questions - does the 993 cab have the same amount of rear space as the 996 cab? There isn't a 993 cab for sale within xxx miles, and I can't find a pic that shows me enough rear seat detail anywhere.
Kiddie seats look like they will go in the 996 once the 996 seat back is removed, and there's a 3 point inertia reel belt as well. Does the 993 have a 3 point belt or just a lap belt?
I have always thought the 993 to be 'the one', particularly a dark-coloured turbo-body on turbo alloys, and to be totally honest, having looked at two worn-smooth-tan-interior'd 996s with more new paintwork than our lounge, I haven't changed my view. 996's don't look like they wear the ravages of time well, and 993 v 996 residuals seem to back my opinion up. The 996 issues I know about, I've been working my way through Hartechs 'how-to-buy-a-911' interweb novel.
Two things may still sway me towards the 996 though - is the 993 hood power operated, plus is the tip box on a par with the 996 tip, or is it a more primitive earlier attempt a la M3 SMG1/2 boxes?
Yes, I know, I know... I should be banned from PH for choosing cars like this but the other half will have to drive the car fairly regularly, so power hood and autobox are essential (as are reversing sensors, anti-chip paint and tyres with anti-kerb strips on the sidewalls... ouch, sorry dear)
Any input/advice much appreciated. While awaiting a response, I shall shuffle off for another potter around the search facility ...
We are considering a 911 - we have twins aged 3 and a bit, the car must be roofless and auto, ideally also 4wd and under £25k. Stop laughing please.
Those who thought this may be a real-mans-driving/Nurburgring thread, please hit the 'back' button on your web browser now.
Still reading? We have been considering E46 M3/330's or something sensible along those lines, but for a few dollars more... and a few dollars less depreciation
So, sad questions - does the 993 cab have the same amount of rear space as the 996 cab? There isn't a 993 cab for sale within xxx miles, and I can't find a pic that shows me enough rear seat detail anywhere.
Kiddie seats look like they will go in the 996 once the 996 seat back is removed, and there's a 3 point inertia reel belt as well. Does the 993 have a 3 point belt or just a lap belt?
I have always thought the 993 to be 'the one', particularly a dark-coloured turbo-body on turbo alloys, and to be totally honest, having looked at two worn-smooth-tan-interior'd 996s with more new paintwork than our lounge, I haven't changed my view. 996's don't look like they wear the ravages of time well, and 993 v 996 residuals seem to back my opinion up. The 996 issues I know about, I've been working my way through Hartechs 'how-to-buy-a-911' interweb novel.
Two things may still sway me towards the 996 though - is the 993 hood power operated, plus is the tip box on a par with the 996 tip, or is it a more primitive earlier attempt a la M3 SMG1/2 boxes?
Yes, I know, I know... I should be banned from PH for choosing cars like this but the other half will have to drive the car fairly regularly, so power hood and autobox are essential (as are reversing sensors, anti-chip paint and tyres with anti-kerb strips on the sidewalls... ouch, sorry dear)
Any input/advice much appreciated. While awaiting a response, I shall shuffle off for another potter around the search facility ...
http://www.911virgin.com/993tmm.htm
I don't go for 993's as a rule but even for a tip this looks the bizz
I don't go for 993's as a rule but even for a tip this looks the bizz
In no particular order:
There were no turbo bodied 993 cabs (except the odd "built for the Sultan of Brunei" ones occasionally), the normal belts are just lap ones, the 'box is four speed so the drive is quite different to the 6 speed manual. The hood is fully auto, although make sure it works properly. There was a recall on them where motors were replaced - Porsche GB should be able to tell you whether it's been done or not. Motors are £400+ each I think (I have a spare new one if you end up needing one
).
The 996 Carrera (i.e. 2wd not 4wd) was available with PSM (pretty much same as Audi/VW ESP, or BMW's DSC) so this maybe another option in addition to 4wd cars.
Less special, but a cheaper BMW 330Ci should be safer, more practical and cheaper in overall cost of ownership. I do have one for sale but this isn't just a shameless plug, it's worth comment as you say you've looked at them as an option.
There were no turbo bodied 993 cabs (except the odd "built for the Sultan of Brunei" ones occasionally), the normal belts are just lap ones, the 'box is four speed so the drive is quite different to the 6 speed manual. The hood is fully auto, although make sure it works properly. There was a recall on them where motors were replaced - Porsche GB should be able to tell you whether it's been done or not. Motors are £400+ each I think (I have a spare new one if you end up needing one
).The 996 Carrera (i.e. 2wd not 4wd) was available with PSM (pretty much same as Audi/VW ESP, or BMW's DSC) so this maybe another option in addition to 4wd cars.
Less special, but a cheaper BMW 330Ci should be safer, more practical and cheaper in overall cost of ownership. I do have one for sale but this isn't just a shameless plug, it's worth comment as you say you've looked at them as an option.
Thanks for the replies so far... still reading, still absorbing 911 info. When I was at uni I always aimed to have a 911 by the time I was 30. I'm 8 years late, so I got fairly close.
The 993 (having gone thru every 993 ad page on PH) does indeed have a decent-sized rear (seat).
The silver 911virgin one advertised looks very good, ideally prefer a darker colour, but I (strangely) like the wine interior. Seems to be a trusted seller as well, from what I've read so far.
Think I definitely prefer the hunt-the-switch pre-war 993 layout - what on earth were Porsche thinking doing that exploding-can-of-dull-paint thing with the 996 - the beige/tan/Dale Winton ones I've seen are an acquired taste to be polite. Everything is beige. Steering wheel, dash, centre console. Everything. Bleurgh.
Lap belts only in the 993 rear is a downside, so I need to look into the best kiddie seats for two point mountings, but on the upside, the more I look (on PH not autotrader), the more I'm realising a decent 993 is viable, and won't break the bank.
Won't be doing many miles in it, third car only, so practicality eg boot size, running costs etc not too important - but the sense of occasion rolling a 911 out of the garage should compensate.
Ta
The 993 (having gone thru every 993 ad page on PH) does indeed have a decent-sized rear (seat).
The silver 911virgin one advertised looks very good, ideally prefer a darker colour, but I (strangely) like the wine interior. Seems to be a trusted seller as well, from what I've read so far.
Think I definitely prefer the hunt-the-switch pre-war 993 layout - what on earth were Porsche thinking doing that exploding-can-of-dull-paint thing with the 996 - the beige/tan/Dale Winton ones I've seen are an acquired taste to be polite. Everything is beige. Steering wheel, dash, centre console. Everything. Bleurgh.
Lap belts only in the 993 rear is a downside, so I need to look into the best kiddie seats for two point mountings, but on the upside, the more I look (on PH not autotrader), the more I'm realising a decent 993 is viable, and won't break the bank.
Won't be doing many miles in it, third car only, so practicality eg boot size, running costs etc not too important - but the sense of occasion rolling a 911 out of the garage should compensate.
Ta
Siver with red is just lovely in the 993 and before (somehow silver 996's are so common I don't like them any more)my Turbo II is silver with can can red and is just lovely. WRT seat belts theres a firm near Wembly which can retro fit 3 pointers, well known and well thought of but can't remember the name, sure someone will be along in a min to remind me.
How about a 964 for much less money? I strongly prefer the looks of the 964 and its a great car to drive (have to admit the 993 in a cab does look good though).
How about a 964 for much less money? I strongly prefer the looks of the 964 and its a great car to drive (have to admit the 993 in a cab does look good though).
andy43 said:
Lap belts only in the 993 rear is a downside, so I need to look into the best kiddie seats for two point mountings, but on the upside, the more I look (on PH not autotrader), the more I'm realising a decent 993 is viable, and won't break the bank.
The rear belts in my 964 coupe are 3 point inertia belts so I would be suprised if the 993 is different. Unless for some reason cabs have lap belts?boxsey said:
andy43 said:
Lap belts only in the 993 rear is a downside, so I need to look into the best kiddie seats for two point mountings, but on the upside, the more I look (on PH not autotrader), the more I'm realising a decent 993 is viable, and won't break the bank.
The rear belts in my 964 coupe are 3 point inertia belts so I would be suprised if the 993 is different. Unless for some reason cabs have lap belts?Gassing Station | Porsche General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff