Just ordered new Cayman S Design Edition 1. Spec????
Just ordered new Cayman S Design Edition 1. Spec????
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kentmotorcompany

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Tuesday 21st August 2007
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Forgive me for posting a very similar thread to about a 2008 Boxster S, but I was inspired by it.

I have just put down what I believe to be the first deposit on the above model.

Official Porche info/teaser website: http://www.porsche.com/microsite/cayman-pd/uk.aspx

To save you reading all the marketing guff, it comes with the following:

  • Solid Black
  • Matt Black Adhesive Stripes(biggest donwside, but being only stickers, Im sure I can take them off)
  • Black Leather Interior,inc Switch Panel, and Door Trims
  • Standard Seats With Embossed Headrests
  • Stainless Steel Tailpipes, Chrome plated, and Blackened Interior
  • Red Taillights (quite a new option, Im told)
  • 19" Turbo Wheels
  • PASM
  • 5mm Wheel Spacers
  • Top Tinted Windscreen
  • Interior Design Package Painted in Exterior Colour(dash trim in Black)
  • Stainless Steel Doorgaurds, with Model Name
  • Instrument Cluster Cover Painted in Exterior Colour
  • Center Console Painted in Exterior Colour
  • Gearshift Lever in Alcantara, Gearshift Inlay in White
  • Handbrake Lever in Alcantara
  • Steering Wheel Rim in Alcantara
  • Roof Lining in Alcantara
  • Instrument Dials in Black
  • Floor Mats
  • Numbered Plaque on Glovebox lid
  • Laptop Case with a few goodies inside.

I am allowed to add to the spec, but not remove or substitute anything. Im thinking of adding the following:

  • Red Seatbelts
  • Soundpack
  • Xenons
  • PCM
I might not go for the PCM and Xenons, as I dont think they add enough to vehicle for the amount of money they cost.

Is there an option for coloured stitching? If so I might try and get that in Red, I think it will go well with the Red Taillights, Red Calipers, and Red Belts.

What do you think of that?????


Edited by kentmotorcompany on Tuesday 21st August 22:37

IMI A

9,997 posts

232 months

Tuesday 21st August 2007
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You can get a Ruf 3400 Coupe or Roadster for circa £50k instead. 400 BHP 324lbs torque LSD etc and much more exclusive for same sort of dosh. Have a look at this months 911 & PW where its test driven. Not a sheep in wolfs clothing IMO

edinandrew

209 posts

234 months

Tuesday 21st August 2007
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I'm thinking "How much would it have cost you to just spec a standard Cayman S ...... which this is. Paint wouldn't have cost any more, wheels maybe £1.5k?, PASM and a couple of other cheap options. Interested to know what you're paying for the stickers that you're going to remove anyway by the sounds of things. If you've ordered it becuase it's a Ltd edition then leave the stickers and keep it original. If you're not bothered just spec a normal car with maybe a few other bits you might like. Just my opinion.

Stu R

21,701 posts

246 months

Tuesday 21st August 2007
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RUF sounds a good buy if that price is correct.

As for the cayman, sounds a nice spec if a touch pricey for what you're actually getting over a regular cayman, personally I'd rather not have the red seatbelts, where they'd break the black interior up they'd be just a tad too garish and out of place for me. Other than that sounds good.

Edited by Stu R on Tuesday 21st August 21:25

cardigankid

8,880 posts

243 months

Tuesday 21st August 2007
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Its a nice car, no doubt, particularly when you see the list of goodies attached. People including myself just get a bit anal because there's so much pent up demand for a more powerful Cayman S. I think that Porsche will do contrasting stitching on any car as part of their Individual programme.

Is this for yourself or as a speculative venture?

kentmotorcompany

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Tuesday 21st August 2007
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edinandrew said:
I'm thinking "How much would it have cost you to just spec a standard Cayman S ...... which this is. Paint wouldn't have cost any more, wheels maybe £1.5k?, PASM and a couple of other cheap options. Interested to know what you're paying for the stickers that you're going to remove anyway by the sounds of things. If you've ordered it becuase it's a Ltd edition then leave the stickers and keep it original. If you're not bothered just spec a normal car with maybe a few other bits you might like. Just my opinion.
Good Qeustion, one Ive already looked into.

If you spec a car to the same spec it come to about £2,500 more than this model, thats without all the extra bits you get thrown in. Plus this model has been added to the dealers alocation, and they can get these quicker than a normal Cayman S. Bearing in mind its limited edition, I think its quite good value.

The sticker, I will take off if I dont like in the flesh. I will buy a new one and put it back on when I sell it, so as to keep it original. Being just a sticker Im sure it wont come to much.

kentmotorcompany

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Tuesday 21st August 2007
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cardigankid said:
Its a nice car, no doubt, particularly when you see the list of goodies attached. People including myself just get a bit anal because there's so much pent up demand for a more powerful Cayman S. I think that Porsche will do contrasting stitching on any car as part of their Individual programme.

Is this for yourself or as a speculative venture?
For myself, But I dont intend to keep it too long 6-12 months, and dont want to lose a fortune.

cardigankid

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Tuesday 21st August 2007
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Never lose a fortune on a nice Porsche, unless of course its Speed Yellow! (q.v.)

kentmotorcompany

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Tuesday 21st August 2007
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IMI A said:
You can get a Ruf 3400 Coupe or Roadster for circa £50k instead. 400 BHP 324lbs torque LSD etc and much more exclusive for same sort of dosh. Have a look at this months 911 & PW where its test driven. Not a sheep in wolfs clothing IMO
Where do you buy one of those from??

baz1985

3,685 posts

276 months

Tuesday 21st August 2007
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What would you expect to lose over 6months....£10k?

kentmotorcompany

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Tuesday 21st August 2007
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baz1985 said:
What would you expect to lose over 6months....£10k?
Maybe as much as that over 12 months I think.

I hope its not as much as that.

Watch this space eh?

edinandrew

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Tuesday 21st August 2007
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baz1985 said:
What would you expect to lose over 6months....£10k?
Totally right.
Which is not far off what some nicer specced Cayman S cars than this have lost over 12-14 months.
The only way you can get value vs depreciation is to hold on to it for a while or speculate on something extremely rare or limited - GT2, GT3 RS etc
You might get £41k forthis when it's a year old - it's not really Ltd - only in number but unlike the other restricted production Porsches mentioned before there is no power difference, cosmetic difference or performance difference ....................... so it's not really different!

kentmotorcompany

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edinandrew said:
baz1985 said:
What would you expect to lose over 6months....£10k?
Totally right.
Which is not far off what some nicer specced Cayman S cars than this have lost over 12-14 months.
The only way you can get value vs depreciation is to hold on to it for a while or speculate on something extremely rare or limited - GT2, GT3 RS etc
You might get £41k forthis when it's a year old - it's not really Ltd - only in number but unlike the other restricted production Porsches mentioned before there is no power difference, cosmetic difference or performance difference ....................... so it's not really different!
I wont try and sell it to you then!

"nicer specced" is a subjective thing.

baz1985

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Tuesday 21st August 2007
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kentmotorcompany said:
baz1985 said:
What would you expect to lose over 6months....£10k?
Maybe as much as that over 12 months I think.

I hope its not as much as that.

Watch this space eh?
I am thinking about one for 12 months/20k miles...expect to lose £15k.

Spec: PCM, Xenons, Multi-function steering wheel, Cruise, Auto Dim Int/Ext + Rain Sensor.

IMI A

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Tuesday 21st August 2007
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kentmotorcompany said:
IMI A said:
You can get a Ruf 3400 Coupe or Roadster for circa £50k instead. 400 BHP 324lbs torque LSD etc and much more exclusive for same sort of dosh. Have a look at this months 911 & PW where its test driven. Not a sheep in wolfs clothing IMO
Where do you buy one of those from??
tel 0049 8265 911 911.
www.ruf-automobile.de

edinandrew

209 posts

234 months

Tuesday 21st August 2007
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[/quote] I wont try and sell it to you then!

"nicer specced" is a subjective thing.
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I agree but if you're buying it to sell on then the cars with PCM and a decent stereo sell much more quickly. Unfortunately that appears to be the demographic of a lot of Porsche customers now and they expect these extras on £50k plus cars. Don't misunderstand me - it's a lovely car.

kentmotorcompany

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Tuesday 21st August 2007
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edinandrew said:
I agree but if you're buying it to sell on then the cars with PCM and a decent stereo sell much more quickly. Unfortunately that appears to be the demographic of a lot of Porsche customers now and they expect these extras on £50k plus cars. Don't misunderstand me - it's a lovely car.
I see.

Thats why Im thinking of adding PCM, and soundpack.
The only problem is PCM costs about £2,000, and is proberbly worth about £1,000 on a used car.
Soundpack gives about 90% of the sound for 45% of the cost of Bose, so Ill be going for soundpack.

Edited by kentmotorcompany on Tuesday 21st August 22:34


Edited by kentmotorcompany on Tuesday 21st August 22:35

baz1985

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Tuesday 21st August 2007
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Glass's values 987C S assuming good metallic colour, PCM, Bose and 19s. Without PCM worth £1k less.

IMO both Bose and SoundPackage Plus are w8nk. £900 on a set of quality components and Amp...but not OE & all that.

kentmotorcompany

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Wednesday 22nd August 2007
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baz1985 said:
Glass's values 987C S assuming good metallic colour, PCM, Bose and 19s. Without PCM worth £1k less.

IMO both Bose and SoundPackage Plus are w8nk. £900 on a set of quality components and Amp...but not OE & all that.
Thanks, as the name suggests I am a trader, and have Glass's Guide.

Would you honestly buy a £50k car then add an aftermarket stereo?

baz1985

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Wednesday 22nd August 2007
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kentmotorcompany said:
baz1985 said:
Glass's values 987C S assuming good metallic colour, PCM, Bose and 19s. Without PCM worth £1k less.

IMO both Bose and SoundPackage Plus are w8nk. £900 on a set of quality components and Amp...but not OE & all that.
Thanks, as the name suggests I am a trader, and have Glass's Guide.

Would you honestly buy a £50k car then add an aftermarket stereo?
Yes, but visually it would be undetectable. Only changing the speakers (not adding a sub)/ amp can be hidden. PCM would remain.