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jusmaxey

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4 posts

231 months

Wednesday 29th August 2007
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Hi everyone after years of loving Porsche's i have decided to buy a modern day classic 87 911 it is beautiful and very well looked after ,
i am just looking for tips on what i should be looking out for it has got FSH but has covered 140k so it has been round the block,the car drives perfectly starts and runs smooth,but does have a little smoke on start up only
any ideas and tips on looking after her would be appreciated

SNDa

1,107 posts

239 months

Wednesday 29th August 2007
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Don't know much about that age of 911 but welcome wavey

ian964

534 posts

283 months

Wednesday 29th August 2007
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jusmaxey said:
...but does have a little smoke on start up only...
They all do that, and the longer you leave it, the more it will smoke! Due to the horizontal piston, oil collects in the cylinders at rest and just burns off when the engine is started. So drive it as often as possible. Congrats!

jusmaxey

Original Poster:

4 posts

231 months

Wednesday 29th August 2007
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ian964 said:
jusmaxey said:
...but does have a little smoke on start up only...
They all do that, and the longer you leave it, the more it will smoke! Due to the horizontal piston, oil collects in the cylinders at rest and just burns off when the engine is started. So drive it as often as possible. Congrats!
cheers for the reply that makes sense , and puts my mind at rest thanks again

Agent Orange

2,078 posts

271 months

Wednesday 29th August 2007
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Looks b...y luverly, '87 last of the 3.2 has all the good bits evolved to be driven .............just go and enjoy it , SLOW IN FAST OUT , for corners and watch out for downhill in the wet , they still tended to lock unpleasantly early and go straight on !

XJSJohn

16,152 posts

250 months

Wednesday 29th August 2007
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What agentorange said about handling.

Also ... they do not like being namby pambied .. its a dirty beast of a car that likes to be spanked regularly.

Once the oil is properly warm just make sure that you use all the rev range properly, enthusiastically and religiously ...

I started trying to be eco warrior in mine and keep the revs down in traffic ... thing got right grumpy about starting the following day so now ... keep it one gear lower and enjoy the power biggrin

thumbup lovely looker too !!!

jusmaxey

Original Poster:

4 posts

231 months

Wednesday 29th August 2007
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XJSJohn said:
What agentorange said about handling.

Also ... they do not like being namby pambied .. its a dirty beast of a car that likes to be spanked regularly.

Once the oil is properly warm just make sure that you use all the rev range properly, enthusiastically and religiously ...

I started trying to be eco warrior in mine and keep the revs down in traffic ... thing got right grumpy about starting the following day so now ... keep it one gear lower and enjoy the power biggrin

thumbup lovely looker too !!!
well mine problem is i have a heavy foot so i guess it will get a seeing to now and then

XJSJohn

16,152 posts

250 months

Wednesday 29th August 2007
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jusmaxey said:
XJSJohn said:
What agentorange said about handling.

Also ... they do not like being namby pambied .. its a dirty beast of a car that likes to be spanked regularly.

Once the oil is properly warm just make sure that you use all the rev range properly, enthusiastically and religiously ...

I started trying to be eco warrior in mine and keep the revs down in traffic ... thing got right grumpy about starting the following day so now ... keep it one gear lower and enjoy the power biggrin

thumbup lovely looker too !!!
well mine problem is i have a heavy foot so i guess it will get a seeing to now and then
biggrin not a problem with these old aircoolers it would seem

Mine loves a good old Italian tune-up as well driving

Agent Orange

2,078 posts

271 months

Wednesday 29th August 2007
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When i lived in ur part of the world XJS John an Alfa 2000 cost the same as a Porsche in the UK ............THE POLICE USED TO HIDE ON THE EDGE OF THE STORM DRAINS WITH PETER MACHINES so no Italian tune ups , had to slip over the causeway and mind the potholes ! Grand Prix up the THompson rd was fun!Did have to worry abt going light at the front just the Telegraph poles and Lamposts ..................only ever saw 1 ,911 in 3 years belonged to the then owner of The Oberoi Hotel ..............how things have changed !

thegoose

8,077 posts

241 months

Wednesday 29th August 2007
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Welcome to the forum and all that, but your car's rubbish, wrong model, bad colour, dreadful interior, too many miles. Probably best you get rid of it and buy something else. I'll even help you out and take yours off your hands for you if you like wink................

XJSJohn

16,152 posts

250 months

Thursday 30th August 2007
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Agent Orange said:
When i lived in ur part of the world XJS John an Alfa 2000 cost the same as a Porsche in the UK ............THE POLICE USED TO HIDE ON THE EDGE OF THE STORM DRAINS WITH PETER MACHINES so no Italian tune ups , had to slip over the causeway and mind the potholes ! Grand Prix up the THompson rd was fun!Did have to worry abt going light at the front just the Telegraph poles and Lamposts ..................only ever saw 1 ,911 in 3 years belonged to the then owner of The Oberoi Hotel ..............how things have changed !
Cars still cost an eye-wateringly expensive amount. (starting ticket before extras for a Cayman is about £80k, and you can have a lovely Alfa 159 2litre for about £40k)

Road tax is about £500 a year and you have the 10 year COE thing too so add another £7k every decade the car is on the road.

Fortunately most people here don’t "get" old cars, so although still expensive my porker is only a few k over UK prices.

We have no gatso's here but BiB do use radar guns from time to time. However the F&F scene has hit so all the kids drive in Velside body kitted Scooby's and Mitzu's (big pipes, 1.6l engines and lots of Vin Diesel attitude, but no ability) so a Porsche is generally left to its own devices unless you are being excessively stupid.

North South highway to KL is a lovely fast road now and still just as much "bandit country" where £20 will solve a 200kph infringement and the Genting / Cameron highlands are awesome hoonage!!

And the Thompson Road GP Track cloud9 that’s where i did the test drive before buying the current beast ... just mind the monkeys!!

ohh and there must have been a few more porkers out here, just well hidden ... mine has imported to Singapore in 1977 and here it has stayed!

anonymous-user

85 months

Thursday 30th August 2007
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Nice choice, 3.2 Carerras are great cars. Did you get it fully inspected by a specialist? If not, it's still worth doing now. Basic things to watch out for:-

1. Rust - check around A-pillars in lower corners of windscreen, sills, lower door shuts, inner wings, suspension mounts, etc, etc. There will be some degree of rot, so don't panic if you find some! But it's worth treating early. If you're driving it in winter and thinking of keeping it long term, consider getting it professionally cleaned and rustproofed. Also check the condition of the exhaust heat exchangers, they usually rot quite badly. Expensive stainless steel after market replacements are the answer here.

2. Oil leaks - minor leaks are common around rocker covers, drain tubes etc, but don't worry too much unless it's dripping all over the floor. You can usually live with them and most people do.

3. Worn out gear selector bushes. Relatively easy and cheap to replace and can dramatically improve shifting. First thing to do if there are shift issues.

4. Check the fan belt condition and tension. It's pretty important on one of these!

Not much goes wrong with these cars, they're pretty bomb proof. They prefer being driven to sitting around too, so make sure you drive it regularly smile

Don't take it anywhere near a franchised Porsche garage for servicing, go to a classic Porsche specialist instead.

Agent Orange

2,078 posts

271 months

Thursday 30th August 2007
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Sorry XJS was there 71 /75 ............couple ringiit answer to almost everything except hitting a cow !!!When the traffic sharing started bought an inflateble doll!

RVVUNM

1,913 posts

240 months

Thursday 30th August 2007
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Welcome. Great car,I've had two 3.2's and never had a problem with either,just make sure you wring it's neck once a week.

jusmaxey

Original Poster:

4 posts

231 months

Thursday 30th August 2007
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uktrailmonster said:
Nice choice, 3.2 Carerras are great cars. Did you get it fully inspected by a specialist? If not, it's still worth doing now. Basic things to watch out for:-

1. Rust - check around A-pillars in lower corners of windscreen, sills, lower door shuts, inner wings, suspension mounts, etc, etc. There will be some degree of rot, so don't panic if you find some! But it's worth treating early. If you're driving it in winter and thinking of keeping it long term, consider getting it professionally cleaned and rustproofed. Also check the condition of the exhaust heat exchangers, they usually rot quite badly. Expensive stainless steel after market replacements are the answer here.

2. Oil leaks - minor leaks are common around rocker covers, drain tubes etc, but don't worry too much unless it's dripping all over the floor. You can usually live with them and most people do.

3. Worn out gear selector bushes. Relatively easy and cheap to replace and can dramatically improve shifting. First thing to do if there are shift issues.

4. Check the fan belt condition and tension. It's pretty important on one of these!

Not much goes wrong with these cars, they're pretty bomb proof. They prefer being driven to sitting around too, so make sure you drive it regularly smile

Don't take it anywhere near a franchised Porsche garage for servicing, go to a classic Porsche specialist instead.
thanks for your advice ,will be doing a full check over cheers for now

graeme36s

7,230 posts

248 months

Thursday 30th August 2007
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Agree with all said previous. Proper old school 911 and lovely looking bit of kit. Might find valve guides a little worn but would not worry. The odd litre of oil here and there won't hurt and they do hold from memory about 11 of them. Welcome aboard.

anonymous-user

85 months

Thursday 30th August 2007
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Yep 11 litres of engine oil. It's dry sumped, so you can only check oil level with the engine warm, sitting on level ground and running at idle. The level will read very low if you check the dipstick with the engine switched off. Fill halfway or slightly above min and max marks. The oil level gauge on the dash only reads correctly at idle too, but go off the dipstick anyway. Don't overfill or you'll end up with an airfilter full of oil! Oil pressure should be around 4 bar @ 4000 rpm (approx middle of pressure gauge) and don't worry if it reads very low press on idle. That's normal.

XJSJohn

16,152 posts

250 months

Friday 31st August 2007
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Agent Orange said:
When the traffic sharing started bought an inflateble doll!
rofl