Where to buy a lower arm for a 996 turbo?

[boony]

Hi all

My 996 turbo has started making a squeaky noise when i turn the steering. I took it to a mate's garage and he said its some joint on the lower arm.

Do I need to buy this direct from porsche or can I get one from elsewhere?

Any idea on costs? My mate guessed at £150ish.

Many thanks in advance,
Boon

[Weltmeister]

Boony
This is a 190 MPH supercar, do not firk about with steering & braking items. Do not under any circumstances be talked into rebushing these !

Buy genuine Porsche components, they are not that expensive.

[lecture over]

Cheers

Allan

[996TT_STEVO]

Mine are re-bushed with solid bushes, lol

Allan is very correct, don't mess around, I'm sure this comes as the whole arm anyway!

check costing with local porsche stealer, then check price with graham at design911.com

[The Griffalo]

Weltmeister said:

Boony
This is a 190 MPH supercar, do not firk about with steering & braking items. Do not under any circumstances be talked into rebushing these !

Buy genuine Porsche components, they are not that expensive.

[lecture over]

Cheers

Allan

And how precisely do you think the bushes get in there in the first place?

If money > sense replace entire arm.
If you understand anything at all about engineering simply replace the bushes.

[boony]

Thanks to all for the help. My mate suggested replacing the whole arm anyway - having reread my OP it does sound like I was just after the joint.

Is "Lower Arm" the correct term for this part? I can't see it at design911 nor europarts that's all.

I assume I'm going to need another geometery setup afterwards?

[C2look]

Boony, have a read of Stevie's thread from last week. References to lower arm info in there.

[C2look]

look on design911 and on the LHS menu scroll down to 'Suspension Axle Parts', then select '996 97>> front' and it shows a diagram and its part No 7 on diagram A.

Scroll down for the price of the part, item no ID99634105316 996 LOWER CONTROL ARM £149.50

probably plus the dreaded!

[boony]

C2Look - I know uncanny isn't it! Two 996 turbos, both end up with similar symptoms. There were some bumpy parts on the run - parts that we hit "in a spirited manner". It was worth it though

[C2look]

boony said:

C2Look - I know uncanny isn't it! Two 996 turbos, both end up with similar symptoms. There were some bumpy parts on the run - parts that we hit "in a spirited manner". It was worth it though

Hell Yeah!

[boony]

Cheers for the link there bud. The £150 guesstimate by my mate was bang on the money. I'll get one ordered tomorrow morning unless Malton have one in stock.

Is it fine to just do the one side?

Will I need geometry setup once it's done - I only had it done about 6 weeks ago too!

[C2look]

boony said:

Cheers for the link there bud. The £150 guesstimate by my mate was bang on the money. I'll get one ordered tomorrow morning unless Malton have one in stock.

Is it fine to just do the one side?

Will I need geometry setup once it's done - I only had it done about 6 weeks ago too!

In the other thread JWB at Malton said the price included a set up but Mike at Sports and Classic says it doesn't, and I aint a clue

[Weltmeister]

[/quote]And how precisely do you think the bushes get in there in the first place?
[/quote]

They got there by whichever sub assembly manufacturer appointed by Porsche after rigourous checks were carried out. These parts having been supplied by Porsche carry the correct liability cover in the event of a failure. Having your mate with a garage push in bushes will not offer similar cover....worth thinking about. This is only my opinion and reflects what I would do, everyone is entitled to pursue whichever course they so choose.

Allan

[boony]

Allan thanks for your posts mate, I respect your comments. These complete lower arm assemblies from design911 should be fine though right? edited: sorry just re-read your original post. I'll give Porsche a ring tomorrow too and see how much difference there is. Cheers.

Edited by boony on Friday 31st August 22:02

[Weltmeister]

Francis
It may be safe to assume ? that if the part carries the same part number cast into it i.e 996******* that it originates from the same source as those supplied by Porsche ? John at Design911 is okay

Allan

[The Griffalo]

Weltmeister said:

The Griffalo said:

And how precisely do you think the bushes get in there in the first place?

They got there by whichever sub assembly manufacturer appointed by Porsche after rigourous checks were carried out. These parts having been supplied by Porsche carry the correct liability cover in the event of a failure. Having your mate with a garage push in bushes will not offer similar cover....worth thinking about. This is only my opinion and reflects what I would do, everyone is entitled to pursue whichever course they so choose.

Allan

I'm afraid I beg to differ (I'm a time served mechanical engineer). A bush is a bush is a bush. They're all just fitted with a press and quite frankly it's a piss easy job. Don't let the word Porsche frighten you into replacing a perfectly serviceable component that was designed to be rebushed. That's precisely why they sell new bushes.

If you buy a new one the sub assembler will probably employ someone far less qualified than I am to operate the press. That's food for thought also

[996TT_STEVO]

As I have mentioned I have pushed my own Solid bushes in. I'm more than positive you can't buy these bushes seperate anyway (from porsche), i'm sure you have to replace the whole arm.

[Weltmeister]

You are all correct. A bush is just a bush. Having come from a retail workshops, it was my choice to only offer the complete genuine part as I effectivly "laid off" the product liability to Porsche. My insurers then underwrote the risk of the fitting only. So should any incident have occured we had mitigated our position. The individual who carries out just such a home repair should in an ideal world contact their insurers to determine the level of cover [public liability] in place for them, should an incident occur which is directly attributable to their workmanship or failure of a component that was not supplied by Porsche ??

Allan

[warmfuzzies]

Weltmeister said:

You are all correct. A bush is just a bush. Having come from a retail workshops, it was my choice to only offer the complete genuine part as I effectivly "laid off" the product liability to Porsche. My insurers then underwrote the risk of the fitting only. So should any incident have occured we had mitigated our position. The individual who carries out just such a home repair should in an ideal world contact their insurers to determine the level of cover [public liability] in place for them, should an incident occur which is directly attributable to their workmanship or failure of a component that was not supplied by Porsche ??

Allan

Allan,

Any no:s on failures of rebushed items?

Let's deal in real world scenarios here, I'm going to do mine with Powerflex bushes soon. Guess what they were designed by someone who had experience in older pork and didn't like the cost of new arms and throwing old stuff away.
I'm all for the safety aspect here, trust me on that. But lets remain calm and reflect on why after markets exist, and what they have doen for the quality/pricing structure for us mere mortals; whom may decide to fit something other than real pork.

Kevin

[996TT_STEVO]

If you are going to straight replace, don't mess around and purchase the whole arm.

The only reason mine were pressed into existing arm is that I have gone solid bushes for track.

[Weltmeister]

Geoff Everitt originally did the work on older Porsche's and he is a respected engineer. My point of view is only as a retail workshop that I was not prepared to do it just in case of failure. How many failures am I aware of = none. Still would'nt sway me.
The world is full of choices and we all make our own, based on a mixture of confidence / heresay / abilities / past experience.

I am sure all will be well whichever route is chosen

Allan