Fast Starts in 996 Tip

[OrangeBob55]

What is the fastest way off the line in a 996 C2 with Tip?

So far have just selected first gear then floored it.

I remember reading on a different forum once that the quickest way to launch an RS6 auto was to keep your left foot on the break, floor the throttle and then release the break when you are ready to go.

Would this approach work in the 996 - I've not been brave enough to try this yet!

[Don1]

Fastest way in my ladies turbo tip is do exactly that - you feel the car strain against the brakes (using the torque converter maybe?), then release the left, planting the right. Make sure you do it that way, not the other way around....

[Vesuvius 996]

FFS!

Let's show a little mechanical sympathy here.


Select first, squeeze the throttle on progressively and shift up to 2nd, then floor it.

It'll be a tenth slower to 100mpg and it won't shag the car.

[OrangeBob55]

Just a point to note - I have noticed, that the revs are limited to around 4.5k when stationary. Anybody know why?

[Vesuvius 996]

OrangeBob55 said:

Just a point to note - I have noticed, that the revs are limited to around 4.5k when stationary. Anybody know why?

To prevent over revs

[OrangeBob55]

yeah, but does it do this in a C2 with a manual gearbox?

[silver996]

Fastest way off the line in a tip? - get a manual

[Maxxuk]

silver996 said:

Fastest way off the line in a tip? - get a manual

There's always one....

[headlesshorseman]

stall speed of the autobox

[bull996]

Its great the "foot on brake and floor it" lark.

I had a Merc estate on hire in Germany and I tried that. Ended up with the rear tyres smoking away and the car was stationary.
Excellent fun and I recommend it to anyone. The C4 wont do it, but the C2 will .........

[OrangeBob55]

Didn't know what 'Stall Speed' was, so Googled it and found a very helpful overview aimed just at my level (i.e. basic!).

http://peugeot.mainspot.net/tips/torque_converter....

(on a Peugeot site, but the piece is generic)

[woogie]

Why would you buy a sports car with an auto box

[silver996]

I'll be honest I haven't driven a tiptronic, maybe they aren;t all that bad, but a great part of the fun for me in driving mine is changing the gears, to lose that would take away a fair part of the whole experience i think.

Fine for people who only have one leg though?

[OrangeBob55]

Thanks for the constructive posts. I didn't want to start a manual vs tip discussion, as it doesn't bother me (I have made my choice!), but I suppose it was inevitable!!

Anyhow, back to topic - what is the 'Fastest' way to launch a 996 C2 Tip? Taking a hypothetical situation - at the drag strip and looking to set the fastest possible time.

Options:

1. Having First gear selected, release brake pedal, then immediately plant accelerator;
2. Having First gear selected, release brake pedal, then progressively depress accelerator until fully depressed;
3. Having First gear selected, keeping left foot on brake pedal, plant accelerator allowing revs to rise to ‘stall speed’, then release brake pedal (keeping accelerator planted;
4. Any variation of the above!

Questions:
- Is starting in First gear definitely going to be faster than starting in second?
- Is it best to allow the Tip box to do its thing and change up automatically at the red line, or would it be faster to short-shift any gears?

[Slaav]

bull996 said:

Its great the "foot on brake and floor it" lark.

I had a Merc estate on hire in Germany and I tried that. Ended up with the rear tyres smoking away and the car was stationary.
Excellent fun and I recommend it to anyone. The C4 wont do it, but the C2 will .........

Had enormous fun with hired mercs years ago using this technique. If you were really careful and 'feathered' the break you could actually do simulated drag starts. Tricky but then it was a poor little hire car. E-Class worked best as you just sat there p1shing yourself laughing and trying not to gag on the various smells that you appeared to cause. Childish but great fun.

Wont be trying that in my girlie C4 tippy Cab though! Not in a month of Sundays.

[Thorny]

In my RS6 it was quickest to leave it in D (sport mode) and floor it (this started in 2nd) but this had a lot mroe torque than the 996...

[thegoose]

Thorny said:

In my RS6 it was quickest to leave it in D (sport mode) and floor it (this started in 2nd) but this had a lot mroe torque than the 996...

Doesn't it start in 2nd, realise you've floored it once you've got going and then kickdown to 1st? In which case, starting in 1st would've been quicker....

[graeme36s]

OrangeBob55 said:

Options:

1. Having First gear selected, release brake pedal, then immediately plant accelerator;
2. Having First gear selected, release brake pedal, then progressively depress accelerator until fully depressed;
3. Having First gear selected, keeping left foot on brake pedal, plant accelerator allowing revs to rise to ‘stall speed’, then release brake pedal (keeping accelerator planted;
4. Any variation of the above!

Questions:
- Is starting in First gear definitely going to be faster than starting in second?
- Is it best to allow the Tip box to do its thing and change up automatically at the red line, or would it be faster to short-shift any gears?

The simple answer would be to select first gear, release the brake and plant accelerator. It won't smoke the tyres so traction is not a problem. Loading the car on the brake and flooring the accelerator will in the not so long term blow the torque convertor and or break the gearbox but it should be quicker. Short shifting the box will not make it any quicker.