911 versus R8 on 5th Gear tonight
Discussion
JKay said:
Powerpack or not, 911 for me.
Prefer it overall, and also
What do you drive: An Audi, or
a Porsche
A Porsche Prefer it overall, and also
What do you drive: An Audi, or
a Porsche
but an R8 in the flesh is gonna be a little bit special compared to the every other cars a 911 you tend to get down sarf london
Cant fail to be impressed that Audi have come up with such a complete car first go as it were .. i guess buying Lambo helps eh!I have seen three R8s driving round Edinburgh - a black one, silver one and a truly stunning white one. There was also a white one outside the hotel I stayed at in Barcelona few weeks ago and I have to say if you havethe b*lls then it is definitely the best colour. They look stunning in the flesh but even at list plus some options you are looking at £85-90k which, only in my humble opinion, is going to take a lot of brand loyalty from rich Audi customers to part with that kind of cash when there is a plethora of stunning cars at that price range from true sportscar manufacturers with real heritage. Either that or they are going to have to provide the drive of your life when compared to a high spec 997, or 360, or Aston or used Gallardo etc etc and surely they can't be so much better than the aforementioned.
Put it this way - I don't have £90k available to spend on a car but if I did I'm not sure the Audi dealer would be my first port of call ............... unless it was for an RS4 to sit next to my weekend 996 RS Mk2!!!
Put it this way - I don't have £90k available to spend on a car but if I did I'm not sure the Audi dealer would be my first port of call ............... unless it was for an RS4 to sit next to my weekend 996 RS Mk2!!!
The R8 just leaves me plain cold. To me I looks completely overstyled (look at the lit engine bay and the LED mascara around the lights). And there are great alternatives:
- An RS4 which cost a bit more than half R8 money and is about 97% as good (RS4 in 08:11 around the Ring vs. 08:04 for the R8) but more versatile and with less dodgy looks
- I'd have a 997 GT3 for R8 money
- If I desperately wanted a Volkswagen Group sports car then it would be a Gallardo Superleggera
Dr S said:
The R8 just leaves me plain cold. To me I looks completely overstyled (look at the lit engine bay and the LED mascara around the lights). And there are great alternatives:
Whats interesting now is Porsche own 50% of the VAG group, so whats the future of cars like these and the Lambo??- An RS4 which cost a bit more than half R8 money and is about 97% as good (RS4 in 08:11 around the Ring vs. 08:04 for the R8) but more versatile and with less dodgy looks
- I'd have a 997 GT3 for R8 money
- If I desperately wanted a Volkswagen Group sports car then it would be a Gallardo Superleggera
thanks to some good advice from this forum, I now have a 997 GT3.
I looked at an R8. No comparison. Whereas there is a certain degree of practicality in the GT3 (last weekend I drove to a trackday with luggage for myself and three others), there is absolutely no practicality at all in the R8.
Rgds, WalterU
I looked at an R8. No comparison. Whereas there is a certain degree of practicality in the GT3 (last weekend I drove to a trackday with luggage for myself and three others), there is absolutely no practicality at all in the R8.
Rgds, WalterU
The cars are very even in most regards.
One area where the Porsche is dramatically superior is fuel economy - at least 25% better than the Audi.
It's not so much the cost that bothers me, more the having to refuel every 175 miles.
I hope that come the 998 Porsche will find a way to improve efficiency with the flat 6 rather than move to 8 cylinders.
One area where the Porsche is dramatically superior is fuel economy - at least 25% better than the Audi.
It's not so much the cost that bothers me, more the having to refuel every 175 miles.
I hope that come the 998 Porsche will find a way to improve efficiency with the flat 6 rather than move to 8 cylinders.
Both great cars and i love both marks.
My choice would be the Pork.
The design is timeless and not fussy like the R8, also IMO sounds nicer.
I have seen the R8 in the flesh and while its a major design acheivment and obviously a superb piece of engineering it just looks to much like one of those concept cars you see at the motor shows.
FAST AUDI?
Save yer monies and buy an RS4.
My choice would be the Pork.
The design is timeless and not fussy like the R8, also IMO sounds nicer.
I have seen the R8 in the flesh and while its a major design acheivment and obviously a superb piece of engineering it just looks to much like one of those concept cars you see at the motor shows.
FAST AUDI?
Save yer monies and buy an RS4.
Pheedbak said:
Autocar's already awarded the R8 drivers car of the year ... thats why ive bought one (in my fantasy garage..)
Autoexpress gave it second after inviting last years winner who won it again (Cayman S) 
.The jurys out from my point of view with the R8. Looks like it's come from the Demolition Man film although you can't argue with a mid engined V8. That said, £120k (when taking the premium people are charging to get one now) for an Audi - no disrespect but there's better cars for the money (as listed above).
Edited by K Man S on Tuesday 11th September 10:07
K Man S said:
Pheedbak said:
Autocar's already awarded the R8 drivers car of the year ... thats why ive bought one (in my fantasy garage..)
Autoexpress gave it second after inviting last years winner who won it again (Cayman S) .The jurys out from my point of view with the R8. Looks like it's come from the Demolition Man film although you can't argue with a mid engined V8. That said, £120k (when taking the premium people are charging to get one now) for an Audi - no disrespect but there's better cars for the money (as listed above). Based on this true world price today, perhaps it was unfair to pit it against a car which was £35k cheaper.
Edited by K Man S on Tuesday 11th September 12:58
Trully did make the 997S look like a VW Beetle in the looks department - And after reading Autocars take on it compared to the 997 GT3RS may i add, i think Audi have taken Porsche on and at there first attempt and in allot of peoples eyes - Beat them.
If it is true that an R10 or even RS10 are soon to appear then Porsche should be worried.
If it is true that an R10 or even RS10 are soon to appear then Porsche should be worried.
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