Is PASM worth having?
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I've been wanting a Porsche for years and have been lurking on, and enjoying, these forums for several months. I hired a 997C2 for 3 days last year and am now smitten more than ever. There really wasn't much I didn't like about the car. Will be buying early next year!
However, "Her Indoors" commented on the hard suspension of the standard C2. Although I was aware of it for the first few minutes, I quickly forgot about it and enjoyed the A and B roads of SW Scotland.
My questions are: how much more ride comfort is there in a car with the PASM option and PASM NORMAL selected?
I see that it's standard equipment on the Carrara S. Is it worth buying an S for purely this feature? And how much do you notice 355 bhp rather than 325?
Many thanks,
MaxNg
However, "Her Indoors" commented on the hard suspension of the standard C2. Although I was aware of it for the first few minutes, I quickly forgot about it and enjoyed the A and B roads of SW Scotland.
My questions are: how much more ride comfort is there in a car with the PASM option and PASM NORMAL selected?
I see that it's standard equipment on the Carrara S. Is it worth buying an S for purely this feature? And how much do you notice 355 bhp rather than 325?
Many thanks,
MaxNg
The PASM is not really worth it, unless you are planning to track the car a lot and again - only on very smooth tracks.
When I did the Porsche Driving Experience at Millbrook, we never turned the car to sport mode as the suface was not good enough to make the difference.
There are good reasons to buy the S over the standard car though and the 25bhp is certainly one of them - just that you'll want more after that!
When I did the Porsche Driving Experience at Millbrook, we never turned the car to sport mode as the suface was not good enough to make the difference.
There are good reasons to buy the S over the standard car though and the 25bhp is certainly one of them - just that you'll want more after that!
There was a thread about this only last week. Yes PASM is worth having for the adaptive damping in Normal mode. The Sport setting is a bonus if you track the car.
The problem is that most OPC reps don't understand it, nor do most of the people who post on here.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
The problem is that most OPC reps don't understand it, nor do most of the people who post on here.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
MaxNg said:
My questions are: how much more ride comfort is there in a car with the PASM option and PASM NORMAL selected?
Opinions from someone with PASM on a Cayman (had a loaner without for a week to compare):The car on PASM normal is a smoother, more absorbing ride than a car without PASM. Car on PASM SPORT is firmer than a car without PASM.
I like it so much if I had just £1k to spend on options, it'd be this.
I have an M030 996 at the moment (sports suspension) and it's fine, if a little bumpy from time to time. I had a 997 C2S for a few days thinking about ordering one and it had PASM (which most do) and I thought coming from an M030 would not order. PASM in sport mode is pretty much too hard for MOST UK roads, which are cr@p to be frank. On the continent (pic above!) it would be great, France on the motorways etc. PASM in sport mode is definitely harder riding than a M030 996. Not a lot in it, but it's there.
PASM in normal mode is superb and to me feels the perfect blend of comfort and sport (for the UK). I live in West Sussex where the roads are bloody awful, but there are some great driving roads and the PASM gives far more control than my M030. It's a significant factor for mere mortals like me, you don't feel like you're going to be spat off backwards at the first major bump in the road. I'd say go for it. No extra money and if you ever track it or go o/s you've got sport mode sitting there.
I haven't driven a 997 C2S with the new Sports Chassis/LSD so can't comment on that.
PASM in normal mode is superb and to me feels the perfect blend of comfort and sport (for the UK). I live in West Sussex where the roads are bloody awful, but there are some great driving roads and the PASM gives far more control than my M030. It's a significant factor for mere mortals like me, you don't feel like you're going to be spat off backwards at the first major bump in the road. I'd say go for it. No extra money and if you ever track it or go o/s you've got sport mode sitting there.
I haven't driven a 997 C2S with the new Sports Chassis/LSD so can't comment on that.
I have a Cayman with PASM. On these cars its a brilliant system, and on the CaymanClub forum its the one option buyers regret not spec'ing on new cars. Its considered almost essential if you run 19" wheels.
BTW its' always on; in normal the damping ranges from a bit softer that std hydraulic to a bit harder. That makes the ride on cr*p uk roads very acceptable; far better than a BMW M-sport on RFT's. On 'Sport' the range moves from a bit harder to a lot harder. In either setting the system will adjust the damping dependent on sensors monitoring braking, acceleration, cornering, ABS etc, so even in 'Normal' it will select a firmer setting if you decide to hoon through a roundabout.
One point; I have read that the system doesn't work so well on 997s, where it seems to interfere with feedback.
SS7
BTW its' always on; in normal the damping ranges from a bit softer that std hydraulic to a bit harder. That makes the ride on cr*p uk roads very acceptable; far better than a BMW M-sport on RFT's. On 'Sport' the range moves from a bit harder to a lot harder. In either setting the system will adjust the damping dependent on sensors monitoring braking, acceleration, cornering, ABS etc, so even in 'Normal' it will select a firmer setting if you decide to hoon through a roundabout.
One point; I have read that the system doesn't work so well on 997s, where it seems to interfere with feedback.
SS7
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