Strut Brace for my 944 Turbo.
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Thanks for the replies.
Rallycross, I brought the car as a trackday tool, it has all the Silver Rose extras plus a bolt in half cage and uprated pads and it also has a Promax stage 2 set up with Apexi boost controller.
After I brought the car I sent it to Promax to do a full Geo. set up and check all the M030 suspension was in good condition etc. The said i was all find and set it up for mainly track use.
The car does perform well on track, I just find the front end a bit vague and also there is too much body roll, I thought a strutbrace would tighten things up a bit. What would your suggestions be to help improve turnin and reduce body roll?
Cheers
Dom
Rallycross, I brought the car as a trackday tool, it has all the Silver Rose extras plus a bolt in half cage and uprated pads and it also has a Promax stage 2 set up with Apexi boost controller.
After I brought the car I sent it to Promax to do a full Geo. set up and check all the M030 suspension was in good condition etc. The said i was all find and set it up for mainly track use.
The car does perform well on track, I just find the front end a bit vague and also there is too much body roll, I thought a strutbrace would tighten things up a bit. What would your suggestions be to help improve turnin and reduce body roll?
Cheers
Dom
996dom said:
Thanks for the replies.
The car does perform well on track, I just find the front end a bit vague and also there is too much body roll, I thought a strutbrace would tighten things up a bit. What would your suggestions be to help improve turnin and reduce body roll?
Cheers
Dom
Problem you will find is that after getting the front nice and tight the rear will feel loose, like you have a small amount of rear wheel steering. Then the body-shell will feel loose etc. etc. its a never ending story not forgetting of course tyre wall flex. Replacing the rear bushes with something like Elephant racing bearings is a mega bucks job, looking at $600 + a lot of labour.The car does perform well on track, I just find the front end a bit vague and also there is too much body roll, I thought a strutbrace would tighten things up a bit. What would your suggestions be to help improve turnin and reduce body roll?
Cheers
Dom
I have gone round this loop a little and TBH I am thinking of taking the strut brace off to see if it makes the car feel more evenly balanced again. At the moment if I am to aggresive with 50 mph corners the car turns in fine and then wants to oversteer as the floppy rear torsion bar setup flexes until it decides which track the car should follow, and this is with weltmeister delrin type bushes (which are rubbish but this is another story).
To sum up I would say the following:
1) Forget this type of thing on cars with stock suspension.
2) If you are serious track dayer and fit KW v3 etc. then probably need solid bushings to get the most out of em.
3) Strut brace IMHO is a waste of time if not paired with solid (monoball) top mounts and much stiffer suspension.
4) Any mega stiff suspension is a waste of time on the 944 chassis IMHO without a welded in roll cage, seriously when I drive my car hard cross country the body shell flexes as much as the tyres and suspension (220 lb/inch springs). You really notice this on bumpy roads.
If the front end feels vague check your bushes on the rear of the wishbones. The standard replacement/upgrade is to fit the ones from the 968 which have a really tiny amount of rubber in them compared to the big blocks of rubber that where on my S2. This will make the steering vastly more accurate but may or may not be the culprit since I am not familiar with the difference between the S2 and turbo caster blocks.
Forgot to add that you need a strut brace that is adjustable and then once fitted set up the preload i.e. tighten it up. Without doing this on mine it doesn't seem to make much if any difference. With the bar set nice and tight the car does turn in and track better, but in all honesty the differences are tiny and like I said before you have to drive very smoothly otherwise you unsettle the back end.
I got mine with solid top mounts from Simon at Essential Styling. ISTR each cost about £100ish, they are made by KLA in the USA but I believe the prices may have gone up.
I got mine with solid top mounts from Simon at Essential Styling. ISTR each cost about £100ish, they are made by KLA in the USA but I believe the prices may have gone up.
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