996 TT or 997 C2?!
996 TT or 997 C2?!
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MarlonM

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141 posts

253 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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Hi guys

Just wondering if I could canvass opinion...

Currently I have a 997 C2, which I enjoy very much, but as always with bloody Porsches, you hanker after more power.

Now I have 2 options (I am not keen on the harshness of GT3s)...

A C2S represents just 30bhp or so more, so that's just not worth the 8-10k premium it would cost to change, so Ive looked at TURBOs, both 996 and 997.

The 997 Turbo is a beautiful beast, but my car is valued at around 50% of the purchase price, and even though its better, for me is not £50,000 better.

This led me to look at the older Turbo, the 996. I have found one I like, am reasonably happy with the part ex for my car, and would cost around £15k to change.

In your opinion, which is the better option, the older model turbo, or my 997? I can see the positives and negatives, anyone owned both??

Not sure whether to change to the more powerful car (and get the DMS tuning to circa 500bhp, even more than the 997 TT stock) or keep with what I have....

Thanks!

anglebox10

2,733 posts

242 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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Have you looked into a C2S with official power kit, 30hp extra again I think.
Won't be many around but apparently a decent step up from the standard C2S.

30121980

1,930 posts

239 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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996tt is the way to go. But buy an X50 car, you wont be dissapointed.

Value all the way

Nobby Diesel

2,120 posts

282 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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I would say go for the 996TT too.

Let someone else take the hit on it and for 50% of the original cost, enjoy 95% of the cars capability. Naturally, over a few years use, the 996 will have lost a little, but £ for £, the 996TT is going to be excellent value.
I am biased though.

Can't speak for the X50, but can only imagine it's even more incredible than the standard 420BHP

R1_JON

859 posts

274 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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Another vote for TT.

latussa

112 posts

237 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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Had a 997 C2S for a year and now have a 996TT. Would thoroughly recommend swapping to the TT. I think you'll appreciate the extra urge and I prefer the handling. If you get a well-specced '03 or later car, you will not be disappointed with the interior / PCM etc. Go for it.


bluesatin

3,115 posts

303 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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x50 996 is the way to go. Performance bargains at the moment and despite mine going tomorrow I still think it is the best car I ever bought!

Captain James T

615 posts

239 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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I'm guessing you have about 55-60K to spend and for that you will find yourself a very nice 996 Turbo. Whether it has the 450 upgrade or not you won't be disappointed with the performance and would be very tempted to go down this route, albeit service intervals will be 12,000 miles/ 24 months on post MY2004 models so dearer to service overall. Long term depreciation 'should' be less on the 996 Turbo as well since you'll be looking at a 2003/2004 example that has done its initial depreciation, whereas the 997 C2S will still be on its way down...I've had a 996 GT3 (my favorite by far), a 996 Turbo 420bhp and currently a 997 C2S and I would put them in that order for desirability and the ability to put a damned big smile on your face each time you get behind the wheel. So, for usability and the OMFG factor the 996 Turbo is the one I would choose in your situation. smile

anglebox10

2,733 posts

242 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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Ok.... Have you thought about not looking into the C2S with power kit option ??

Captain James T

615 posts

239 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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Can you find a 997 C2S with power upgrade for that kind of money?

anglebox10

2,733 posts

242 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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Well with £50k value on present car plus £15k maybe not quite enough, but getting close I'd think.
If most power/speed per £ the main issue then I'd have to agree on the 996tt though.

DirkDiggler

253 posts

262 months

Friday 28th September 2007
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def the 996TT, pound for pound the better car

nbetts

1,455 posts

260 months

Friday 28th September 2007
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MarlonM said:
Hi guys

Just wondering if I could canvass opinion...

Currently I have a 997 C2, which I enjoy very much, but as always with bloody Porsches, you hanker after more power.

Now I have 2 options (I am not keen on the harshness of GT3s)...

A C2S represents just 30bhp or so more, so that's just not worth the 8-10k premium it would cost to change, so Ive looked at TURBOs, both 996 and 997.

The 997 Turbo is a beautiful beast, but my car is valued at around 50% of the purchase price, and even though its better, for me is not £50,000 better.

This led me to look at the older Turbo, the 996. I have found one I like, am reasonably happy with the part ex for my car, and would cost around £15k to change.

In your opinion, which is the better option, the older model turbo, or my 997? I can see the positives and negatives, anyone owned both??

Not sure whether to change to the more powerful car (and get the DMS tuning to circa 500bhp, even more than the 997 TT stock) or keep with what I have....

Thanks!
What you need is - 997 GT3 - not a harsh ride at all and is absolute gem of a car.

I have owned the 996 tt X50 and the 997 Carerra S - and both are excellent cars. For the power addicts the X50 serves up smiles by the bucketloads, the 997 S is just a bit more nimble and is arguably a slightly better place to exercise your demons... because you will not be going 2 x light speed in doing so (although just probably about 1.5 x light speed smile )

The 997 GT3 is as comfortable as a 997 S and at least I think it is, as quick as my old 996 tt X50.

Stunning bit of kit. But then again all the cars you are talking about in your post are... you wont go far wrong with any of them. Try and find an upgraded 997 S with X51 at a dealer and get a test drive. Then take out the X50... the only way you will know what you prefer is to drive them all.

Good Luck

MaxAndRuby

6,792 posts

263 months

Friday 28th September 2007
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I had a 997 C2S for a year, then switched to a 996 GT2 for another year. I know it's a different beast, but having driven many 996 TTs I'd say switch, you won't regret it. Forced induction porkers are a different league.

Agree wholeheartedly with the chap that emphasised the X50, it's a MUCH better car. Kayc will probably get involved pushing the virtues of a DMS upgrade, he's correct.

Wanta996(Gotta)

5,622 posts

238 months

Friday 28th September 2007
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I would advise to go for the newer car everytime - The C2S in my opinion is quick enough, the interior and to an extent the exterior of all 996's is starting to look dated and in my opinion is not worth £50-55k. I cant beleive that you would be considering to trade a 997C2 plus 15k for a 2003 TT UNLESS it was the official Turbo S which i believe came out late 2003 (I could be wrong).

I have also noticed that a few of the 996 TT guys have been posting recently with various issues with there cars eg. Radiators,suspension arms,pads leaking etc,etc which may or may not because there cars are getting older and more faults are starting to occur.

Evo's 996 Turbo S review http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/5571...

Edited by Wanta996(Gotta) on Friday 28th September 11:59

MaxAndRuby

6,792 posts

263 months

Friday 28th September 2007
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[quote=Wanta996(Gotta)]The C2S in my opinion is quick enough

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But not in the opinion of the OP, which is really the point.

Wanta996(Gotta)

5,622 posts

238 months

Friday 28th September 2007
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Apologise - i was not aware that he had actually drove the C2S?

OrangeBob55

206 posts

230 months

Friday 28th September 2007
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For the money, my vote would be for the 996TT - You will DEFFINATELY notice the difference in power. The 997 interior is 'newer', but the 996 is still a joy to be inside.

The tuning options and potential on the 996TT are massive, if that is what you are after. As mentioned above, look out an X50 if you want the max 'official' Porsche power. smile

Thorny

1,076 posts

241 months

Friday 28th September 2007
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[quote=Wanta996(Gotta)]I would advise to go for the newer car everytime - The C2S in my opinion is quick enough, the interior and to an extent the exterior of all 996's is starting to look dated and in my opinion is not worth £50-55k. I cant beleive that you would be considering to trade a 997C2 plus 15k for a 2003 TT UNLESS it was the official Turbo S which i believe came out late 2003 (I could be wrong).

I have also noticed that a few of the 996 TT guys have been posting recently with various issues with there cars eg. Radiators,suspension arms,pads leaking etc,etc which may or may not because there cars are getting older and more faults are starting to occur.

Evo's 996 Turbo S review http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/5571...

Edited by Wanta996(Gotta) on Friday 28th September 11:59

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Seconded - I would always go for the newer car too...