996 tt X50 to 997tt
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Took delivery f my new baby yesterday and thought I would give first impressions
The car feels significantly tighter and glued to the road with less feeling of chassis flex than I had on the X50. The Chrono plus makes a difference especially when pushing on but does give a much nicer ride over bad roads with it off.
The car is quick but you don't get that buildup of boost and then bang that the X50 delivered but you are in fact going quicker. You notice this most in 6th gear on the motorway when you put your foot down and power is instant.
Brakes (steel) are significantly better than the old.
All in the car has moved on but more in the way it delivers the power and how much of the power you can use.
The car feels significantly tighter and glued to the road with less feeling of chassis flex than I had on the X50. The Chrono plus makes a difference especially when pushing on but does give a much nicer ride over bad roads with it off.
The car is quick but you don't get that buildup of boost and then bang that the X50 delivered but you are in fact going quicker. You notice this most in 6th gear on the motorway when you put your foot down and power is instant.
Brakes (steel) are significantly better than the old.
All in the car has moved on but more in the way it delivers the power and how much of the power you can use.
Completely agree with you. The 997tt seems carved out of a single block of steel - its feels that solid. You notice it in particular when accellerating out of corners. It is glued to the road and the powerdelivery is very smooth. Kills absolutely everyhting between 50-70mph in 5th gear. Just wait - it will grow on you even more as you get to drive it - enjoy.
I debated the price premium for the past 3-4 months but the old car had done 40,000 miles, was due a service and warranty and I had the feeling that some major expense was going to be needed soon. I went for a test drive a week last friday and the way the car felt made me think it was not exactly worth it but I could justify it to myself.
Plus side is that I believe the allocation is still being limited for 08 and so hopefully a health demand will still be around in a couple of years
Plus side is that I believe the allocation is still being limited for 08 and so hopefully a health demand will still be around in a couple of years
Great choice mate..cant go wrong with the 997 turbo. Test drove a few when I thought I could manage gto afford one....Just a few quid short after she had been on a shopping trip to new york. Well I had been a bad lad and I deserved it. But boy did I pay.
What colour and spec have you went for? and please tell me its manual
all the best
stevie f
What colour and spec have you went for? and please tell me its manual
all the best
stevie f
bluesatin said:
The Chrono plus makes a difference especially when pushing on but does give a much nicer ride over bad roads with it off.
all you have to is press sport button then switch psm to normal - gives you advantage of full power on engine and supple ride. sport setting for psm bit too harsh for uk roads
Taken from another thread elsewhere :
I have been trying to post pics of my new car (3.6t, after selling 997tt) however i get the following message "File Too Large. Limit for this filetype is 146.9 KB. Your file is 1.32 MB."
Anyhow i shall continue with the comparison and would appreciate any solutions regarding that error message. Am not too tech savy but i think it could be a camera setting issue....
Test driving the 3.6 was the last draw, i simply had to sell my 997tt after that test drive. A point about the differences in acceleration:
997 TT WAS A VERY FAST CAR, the majority of the torque would hit at 1900 rpm (502lbs ft with overboost). To put things into perspective, a Ferrari Enzo has about 475lbs ft at roughly 4500 rpm. This coupled with the tight ratio gearing allows for short and ultra rapid bursts of quiet acceleration. I basically hit the limiter in every gear, it was simply not to my liking and im sure other people might have liked it. Mind this is all hapening in a very insulated cabin that somewhat mutes the sensation of speed.
3.6 T Cabin experience is definately different. Windshield in your face, front bonnet semingly shorter....its basically you and the road. Also, the delivery of speed is very smooth with a linear progression that allows you to fully comprehend whats going on. The longer gearing providing a full and sustainable shove that results in a great rush. Thats what it boils down to, an exciting rush that simply was not there with the 997tt.
The 997tt is a great car, am not trying to undermine that car at all, but it highlited the difference between a great car, and an exciting car. Now the upcoming gt2, that could be a totally different story
and then to follow :
great timing ADDICT, just came back from my first highway trip in the 3.6 with a buddy that had purchased a 997 TT simultaneously with me two weeks back. With his engine fully broken in we did a few 3rd and 4th gear sprints. The 3rd gear run outcome was pretty shocking, he coud only get 2 car lengths (for the duration of that gear only), 4th gear runs he managed about 4 car lengths. Basically...3.6 exceeded my expectations by far! It was never the "he blew me away" situation i was expecting. I would love to find some actual mid-range acceleration figures of both 997tt and 3.6t just for comparison. Handling wise i could say this...997 reads the surface inconsistencies, while the 3.6 reads the actual surface. The mental image i get of the road by way of steering feel is very, very vivid in 3.6. Body roll seems the same....honestly. Hard to believe but yes, honestly body roll feels the same in both cars. However one advantage that goes towards the 997 is that my friend was very comfortable at holding a steady (and prolonged) 130 mph on the freeway, while i was definately feeling uncomfortable at that speed (lack of 6th gear, highish rpm, wind noise, light front end)
But how many times am i gonna hold her at those speeds anyways??
I cannot help but smile. 997TT has not moved on that far really. Maybe a far safer bit of kit to drive but currently owning a 964 3.6 turbo and a 993 GT2 EVO I can tell you that the two cars acceleration wise are in a different stratosphere. The GT2 is absolutely awesome and I can fully understand how it would be very easy to wrap it up. There are very few cars that I have driven that are scary quick from the drivers seat and the GT2 is one of them
thankfully
I have been trying to post pics of my new car (3.6t, after selling 997tt) however i get the following message "File Too Large. Limit for this filetype is 146.9 KB. Your file is 1.32 MB."
Anyhow i shall continue with the comparison and would appreciate any solutions regarding that error message. Am not too tech savy but i think it could be a camera setting issue....
Test driving the 3.6 was the last draw, i simply had to sell my 997tt after that test drive. A point about the differences in acceleration:
997 TT WAS A VERY FAST CAR, the majority of the torque would hit at 1900 rpm (502lbs ft with overboost). To put things into perspective, a Ferrari Enzo has about 475lbs ft at roughly 4500 rpm. This coupled with the tight ratio gearing allows for short and ultra rapid bursts of quiet acceleration. I basically hit the limiter in every gear, it was simply not to my liking and im sure other people might have liked it. Mind this is all hapening in a very insulated cabin that somewhat mutes the sensation of speed.
3.6 T Cabin experience is definately different. Windshield in your face, front bonnet semingly shorter....its basically you and the road. Also, the delivery of speed is very smooth with a linear progression that allows you to fully comprehend whats going on. The longer gearing providing a full and sustainable shove that results in a great rush. Thats what it boils down to, an exciting rush that simply was not there with the 997tt.
The 997tt is a great car, am not trying to undermine that car at all, but it highlited the difference between a great car, and an exciting car. Now the upcoming gt2, that could be a totally different story
and then to follow :
great timing ADDICT, just came back from my first highway trip in the 3.6 with a buddy that had purchased a 997 TT simultaneously with me two weeks back. With his engine fully broken in we did a few 3rd and 4th gear sprints. The 3rd gear run outcome was pretty shocking, he coud only get 2 car lengths (for the duration of that gear only), 4th gear runs he managed about 4 car lengths. Basically...3.6 exceeded my expectations by far! It was never the "he blew me away" situation i was expecting. I would love to find some actual mid-range acceleration figures of both 997tt and 3.6t just for comparison. Handling wise i could say this...997 reads the surface inconsistencies, while the 3.6 reads the actual surface. The mental image i get of the road by way of steering feel is very, very vivid in 3.6. Body roll seems the same....honestly. Hard to believe but yes, honestly body roll feels the same in both cars. However one advantage that goes towards the 997 is that my friend was very comfortable at holding a steady (and prolonged) 130 mph on the freeway, while i was definately feeling uncomfortable at that speed (lack of 6th gear, highish rpm, wind noise, light front end)
But how many times am i gonna hold her at those speeds anyways??
I cannot help but smile. 997TT has not moved on that far really. Maybe a far safer bit of kit to drive but currently owning a 964 3.6 turbo and a 993 GT2 EVO I can tell you that the two cars acceleration wise are in a different stratosphere. The GT2 is absolutely awesome and I can fully understand how it would be very easy to wrap it up. There are very few cars that I have driven that are scary quick from the drivers seat and the GT2 is one of them
thankfully
GT3 next. 
bluesatin said:
I thought about the GT3 but then I have the ultima. I need some sensibility for going to work and as R1 Jon knows the roads we go down can be interesting on cold winter mornings
R1_Jon is going to relent and buy himself a 4x4 for this winter. Unfortunatley it isn't going to have 500bhp though 
I can't believe the amount of gravel they have decided to lay on the road through Pinkneys Green. I'm wondering if perhaps it's a traffic calming measure !
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