Slip sliding, flying beetle...phew!
Slip sliding, flying beetle...phew!
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granville

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18,764 posts

277 months

Sunday 24th August 2003
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Despite the last few crawling remnants of sparrow brained retail parkists cluttering the way, yet another Sunday evensong thrapp has just been embraced, leaving this particular thread's initiator at least 0.005% closer to the amount of talent in one of Stefan Roser's less important nasal follicles.

What additional feel buckets may add, I dread to think but even without, the continual forays to the limits of (dry road!) grip continue unabated...

Apart from a few minor flick-flack mini-drifts, where the feeling of bizzare pendulism never ceases to seduce, I think this week's highlight came rather unexpectedly.

Mashing things a little too excitedly, the uncleaned Schnellerhorn actually fired off the black stuff momentarily as a series of micro crests conspired to deceive my reading of the road.

It was a moment of supreme exhileration and I was rather thankful that on touchdown, nothing appeared to grate too badly...

The beetle continues to thrill and bewilder magically, it's enevelope reluctant to open at all quickly and the ownership experience just gets better and better and better.

God I love it, I mean deeply, in an unspeakable union of mecho-human cunjugativity.



My name is DeR and I'm a Porkaholic.

Don

28,378 posts

300 months

Sunday 24th August 2003
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So you'll be up for that Track Day in October then?

iguana

7,197 posts

276 months

Sunday 24th August 2003
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Do ya think babblefish or one of the other on-line translators will soon offer a Derestrictor tranlation service

agent006

12,058 posts

280 months

Monday 25th August 2003
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iguana said:
Do ya think babblefish or one of the other on-line translators will soon offer a Derestrictor tranlation service


Drove fast, wobbly moment, bigger wobbly moment, onto grass, back on road, car still in one bit, liked it.

clubsport

7,372 posts

274 months

Monday 25th August 2003
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Off road excursions DeR...good to see you taking 4wd Porsche motoring seriously.

I had some fun myself at the w/e, a la Porc...one thing I have found with a lhd car is that when you have Blitzkrieged,drivers of other vehicles are looking at the passenger,,while you can put your best innocent face on.

diver944

1,846 posts

292 months

Monday 25th August 2003
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You boys are bad

However I think it's catching. This morning I drove into work in a mischevious mood and thought I would have my own Blitzkrieg moment. Bank Holiday Monday, 7am, completely clear, no traffic

So for the entire 10 mile length of the empty M45 I had my right foot buried to the floor in 5th gear

Now you would thing that V-Max for 10 miles would be quite unnerving. Well actually no, my Turbo is in for a service and I am in a VW Polo courtesy car. I can confirm that the V-Max for this particular UberVaggen was an indicated 98mph

A bit disappointing really

clubsport

7,372 posts

274 months

Monday 25th August 2003
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Diver...driving a small underpowered car at 12/10 of it's ability is very rewarding

granville

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18,764 posts

277 months

Monday 25th August 2003
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Don't worry, when I say 'leaving the black stuff' I mean getting airbourne in a trajectory consistent with the general lay of the road, not a Domsteresque segue into the heather, to violently disturb an impromptu round of 'Roll aaat va barowl' chez Shorty McBadger's...

What I'm finding is that the sense of 'squirm' through the seat is regularly palpable, as the 911 set up does whatever the hell it's supposed to do! Bloody marvellous stuff.

Also, despite the immense squawking caused by the ole Performance Friction pads, I seems to be provoking shed loads of ABS chatter lately, as well: I can only assume (hope!) this is to do with their abundantly outrageous retardant clampage...but it's nectar of the Gods stuff, charging like a banshee with a TUC leader in one's sights in the shortest of straights, then mercilessly chucking out the anchors with devil-may-care lateness.

You couldn't have more fun with a Finn!

clubsport

7,372 posts

274 months

Monday 25th August 2003
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DeR,,,I really think you will find great benefit to fitting some bucket style seating to your current level of hooning.
Weight saving has been discussed,but just keeping you in place while you haul the rudder round with the techart.
I find M/way circular exit roads are much more fun,while held in place.

The Gt3 can be made to fit,but there are 993 applications,,,i would consider the recaro RS bucket,as fitted in the RS & Turbo S,,this would be in keeping.
Check the Turbo s in 911 & PW for pics of this seat,,,just imagine without the red gaudy panels and they are nicer.

granville

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18,764 posts

277 months

Monday 25th August 2003
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Thanks Paul, this is certainly next on the list: Domster has mentioned a trimming outfit called Southbound who, apparently, have a good reputation. They can do said Recaro buckets and trim to an exact match as per the current spec.

As you say, I'm anxious not to cross the line of aesthetic acceptability (not a fan of the big scoop unt wing thang) but such concepts as this, i.e. very much driver focused meddling, I feel justified in contemplating without entirely bastardising the basic principles of portly pork.

What you say about firing off the roundabouts - very much where I'm aiming at - and psychologically, the current Buick Riviera Sedan couches certainly ain't helping with the process!

clubsport

7,372 posts

274 months

Monday 25th August 2003
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Southbound are pretty good,,,they actually recover SP1 seats which are similar to the Porsche originals.Only thing is they are a little slimmer than the Porsche version.Both are recaro,but I guess Porsche was aiming at a target audience of 40-50 year old buyers with associated mid age spread.
The sp1 were ok with me...32" waist but didn't want them any narrower,they do a pole posn seat,which is slightly wider.these do not look so much like the porsche seats.
For price i found demon tweeks were slightly cheaper,but then you have to cover them,,,i think you will be lookig at £2k+ fitted and covered to match At which point I would look out for a Porsche originals.
I looked into this with my 968 Cs with southbound.
I may have a contact who may still be looking to sell 968 CS seats,,same as RS proper Porsche but in black cloth...These would be suitable to be recovered in leather to match.
I can find out if these may be available if you are interested?

granville

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18,764 posts

277 months

Monday 25th August 2003
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Cheers Paul, it's a possibility I guess.

To be honest, I've not invested much time researching the options so am a bit unclear as to the schools of thought on offer.

Can't recall the 'S' having buckets, though?

GuyR

2,458 posts

298 months

Monday 25th August 2003
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Clubsport,

The comments about lhd driving remind me of when I used to take my grandmother out in the lhd Porker (she loves speed and used to insist I floored it wherever possible). I would come flying round a corner and the car coming the other way would see that sat in the 'drivers' seat was a 92 year-old white-haired lady wearing Oakleys.........got some real surprised expressions.........

DeR,

As for seats, the 993 RS buckets are very supportive, but very tight if you have a waist size of 36" or over. The GT3 seats (as fitted to my GT2) are bigger and whilst still totally supportive are more comfortable for the more well built gentlemen (I'm 38" waist). GT3 seats can be purchased specifically for a 993 from www.carnewal.com which has loads of great Porsche parts for sale.......

Guy

>> Edited by GuyR on Monday 25th August 10:46

clubsport

7,372 posts

274 months

Monday 25th August 2003
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I think the 993 TT S had carbon shell painted backs,,i was referring to the 965 S buckets where pics are in this months 911 & Pworld...
These buckets are the same as fitted to 993 RS which were period for your car.
The fun & games with seats start with the mounts,,you cannot buy recaro off the shelf ,even from suppliers direct or southbound that will fit sensibly...Good luck with your hunt.

granville

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18,764 posts

277 months

Monday 25th August 2003
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God bless you, Guy...looks delicious!

Btw, that story about your Gran - SUPERB!!!

GuyR

2,458 posts

298 months

Monday 25th August 2003
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DeR,

I have emailed you a picture of a 993 with GT3 seats fitted.

Guy


>> Edited by GuyR on Monday 25th August 11:02

granville

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18,764 posts

277 months

Monday 25th August 2003
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Cheers Guy, I'm frothing!

granville

Original Poster:

18,764 posts

277 months

Monday 25th August 2003
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Actually chaps, another question for y'all:

Front strut brace and roll cages...any thoughts/experiences, particularly as regards improvements in feel or anything?

And moving on from buckets, how much of the 'Fangio effect' do harnesses have on the psychology of the pilot?

clubsport

7,372 posts

274 months

Monday 25th August 2003
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Guy,,,that is the effect i mean,,,Your gran would certainly have raised a few smiles...no doubt the GT2 satsifies her need for speed.

DeR,,,with respect to front strut braces,they can be had for a couple of hundred notes.standard fitment on 993 RS and the Turbo S is fitted with a special carbon fibre one that is jewellery that works and costs a bomb,if you can find one.The braces offer a very slight improvement,not a revelation in handling or rigidity,but worth fitting none the less.

With respect to harnesses,,Jeremy C made a very good point,in that they are best fitted with a cage,as you do not want to be strapped in should a roof give in.
This is another issue,as it will affect the value of the car & attracts the attention of the insurance companies.
You also have the fun of mounting the various points in the car.personally I think best avoided unless serious track work is on the cards.
I think some decent fitting seats are a much better bet,you will notice a huge improvement.then see how you feel about the need for harnesses..
DeR it is fun spending your money!

dazren

22,612 posts

277 months

Monday 25th August 2003
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Just a query on bucket seats. Am I correct in thinking if DeR fitted bucket seats to Wolfgang, DeR Junior would no longer be able to reach the rear seats? ie they don't tilt, the only movement is along the base runner.

On the harness query I'd steer clear unless putting in a full cage. Without a rear cage section for the upper straps to feed through, you risk these straps forcing your body downwards and thus risking spinal damage as opposed to holding you back into the seat during a frontal impact.

DAZ

>> Edited by dazren (moderator) on Monday 25th August 13:12