Porsche 3.3 Turbo engine - what's it worth?
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As regular forum members may know I bought a 1980 911 3.3 Turbo on September 11th. It turned out to be a very nice car except for a broken head stud.
The head studs are currently being replaced but fearing the worst I started enquiring about second hand cylinder heads, pistons, barrels etc and unearthed a complete engine, gearbox and clutch from a write-off.
The engine has been unused and out of the car for 12 years and is stripped for inspection, it is in excellent condition but the intercooler is missing (was flattened in the crash).
It looks like I am not going to need any of the parts from my car since my engine was rebuilt 10000 miles ago (everything except the head studs was replaced). I have toyed with the idea of ‘project Skoda’ but I don’t think I’d have the time for it so I am probably going to sell the engine.
Does anyone have any idea what this little lot (Engine-Intercooler+Gearbox+Clutch) is worth ?
The head studs are currently being replaced but fearing the worst I started enquiring about second hand cylinder heads, pistons, barrels etc and unearthed a complete engine, gearbox and clutch from a write-off.
The engine has been unused and out of the car for 12 years and is stripped for inspection, it is in excellent condition but the intercooler is missing (was flattened in the crash).
It looks like I am not going to need any of the parts from my car since my engine was rebuilt 10000 miles ago (everything except the head studs was replaced). I have toyed with the idea of ‘project Skoda’ but I don’t think I’d have the time for it so I am probably going to sell the engine.
Does anyone have any idea what this little lot (Engine-Intercooler+Gearbox+Clutch) is worth ?
I would have thought studs would be replaced with most engine rebuilds - most stretch slightly AFAIK, it is only a few like Raceware that won't. Maybe I'm wrong.
Re engine and box, I would say a 930 engine would be worth 1500-2000 GBP or so, if it is minus the odd one or two bits. The box, assuming it is a 4 speed turbo box, would be worth perhaps 800-1000 GBP or so. All above prices simply in my estimation and may be incorrect
Re engine and box, I would say a 930 engine would be worth 1500-2000 GBP or so, if it is minus the odd one or two bits. The box, assuming it is a 4 speed turbo box, would be worth perhaps 800-1000 GBP or so. All above prices simply in my estimation and may be incorrect
IIRC correctly there was a recently rebuilt (receipts available), still under warranty, 3.3 turbo engine and box available in the Parts section of Porsche Post for £4.5k. Anyone with back issues might correct me if I remember this wrong. I also seem to remember it could be heard running.
If I've remembered the above rightly, next to this your expectations look a bit high to me. Not to be cynical, but "stripped for inspection" would make me very nervous as a buyer. If I was forking out the sort of money you're looking for I would want to either see it running or have it properly inspected i.e. by someone with all the right engineering skills. Do you know for sure the crank is true, the heads aren't warped, the crankcase isn't cracked, the turbo isn't shagged etc etc...
If I saw this on e-bay I might be prepared to take a risk and bid up to about a grand but beyond that I don't think I'd risk my cash.
Don't suppose you'll reveal what you paid for it???
Chris
If I've remembered the above rightly, next to this your expectations look a bit high to me. Not to be cynical, but "stripped for inspection" would make me very nervous as a buyer. If I was forking out the sort of money you're looking for I would want to either see it running or have it properly inspected i.e. by someone with all the right engineering skills. Do you know for sure the crank is true, the heads aren't warped, the crankcase isn't cracked, the turbo isn't shagged etc etc...
If I saw this on e-bay I might be prepared to take a risk and bid up to about a grand but beyond that I don't think I'd risk my cash.
Don't suppose you'll reveal what you paid for it???
Chris
Selling stripped engines is a nightmare, the best you will get is £1500. I bought a 3.3 T2 engine for this with a view to rebuilding but when I added the cost of gaskets, rings, bearings and labour to build it up there was no way that I would get £5k for it excluding any profit on the engine itself. In the end I broke it for parts.
Head studs are going to cost £300 and gaskets a further £2-300 so a rebuild is not going to be cheap. I haven't advertised it at any price just wanted an idea what to advertise it for if I do sell it.
I will probably use it in part payment to the Porsche specialist who is re-building my car so expect they'll give me a 'trade price' and they will also know whether the engine is true. I'm a chartered Engineer and have a fairly good idea what I'm looking at but haven't had the parts on an inspection table so there is some element of the unknown. I do know that the Main bearings look excellent, the turbo looks OK and the combustion chambers look good.
As with any rare piece of kit it is only worth what people are prepared to pay for it.
I did see a second hand set of pistons/barrels on Ninemeisters web site for £850+VAT so maybe I'm best off selling all the parts seperately?
I will probably use it in part payment to the Porsche specialist who is re-building my car so expect they'll give me a 'trade price' and they will also know whether the engine is true. I'm a chartered Engineer and have a fairly good idea what I'm looking at but haven't had the parts on an inspection table so there is some element of the unknown. I do know that the Main bearings look excellent, the turbo looks OK and the combustion chambers look good.
As with any rare piece of kit it is only worth what people are prepared to pay for it.
I did see a second hand set of pistons/barrels on Ninemeisters web site for £850+VAT so maybe I'm best off selling all the parts seperately?
DemolitionDan said:
... maybe I'm best off selling all the parts seperately?
Sounds like that may be your best bet.
No harm in putting it up on e-bay first with a reserve though. May be someone out there who's looking for exactly what you're selling. For the negligible cost of the auction, it's got to be worth it before letting it go to your engine builder who is sure to give a low value against it.
Post up the link to the auction on here, I may even put in a bid myself!
Chris
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