Supersport or 996
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When everyone else had been making water cooled engines for 50+years, the 996 was Porsche's first attempt. Subsequently 996 engines all blow up, and or leak oil like a sieve from the rear main seal, its an engine out job to replace a relatively cheap part. The new one once you've paid out, will start to leak again in 20-30k miles.
The GT and Turbo models have stronger engine and much less problems.
I know VAG kinda own Porsche now, but these questions are all probably answer much quick on the Porsche forum.
The GT and Turbo models have stronger engine and much less problems.
I know VAG kinda own Porsche now, but these questions are all probably answer much quick on the Porsche forum.
Tame Technician said:
When everyone else had been making water cooled engines for 50+years, the 996 was Porsche's first attempt. Subsequently 996 engines all blow up, and or leak oil like a sieve from the rear main seal, its an engine out job to replace a relatively cheap part. The new one once you've paid out, will start to leak again in 20-30k miles.
The GT and Turbo models have stronger engine and much less problems.
I know VAG kinda own Porsche now, but these questions are all probably answer much quick on the Porsche forum.
What a load of twaddle.The GT and Turbo models have stronger engine and much less problems.
I know VAG kinda own Porsche now, but these questions are all probably answer much quick on the Porsche forum.
Mike, they are great cars, you are welcome to try mine when I next see you at a meet sometime.
After helping a mate take an engine out of one, (which was smoking and very noisy) I was told by him "oh they all do that"
My mate sent the engine away to a specialist to be rebuilt it, it turned out it had cracked cylinders and destroyed piston rings.
After a day spent on my back, struggling with said oily engine etc. I went home and did a quick google. Guess what, "they all do that"
GT2 GT3 and Turbo different block. Carrera 2 and 4 problematic.
My mate sent the engine away to a specialist to be rebuilt it, it turned out it had cracked cylinders and destroyed piston rings.
After a day spent on my back, struggling with said oily engine etc. I went home and did a quick google. Guess what, "they all do that"
GT2 GT3 and Turbo different block. Carrera 2 and 4 problematic.
Rather than listen to Tame Technician's ill informed point of view, I suggest you speak to specialists who know these cars inside out and have had vast experience of fixing the problems. Hartech in Bolton, Sports & Classic Nr Manchester both post on PH and provide informative information on their websites.
http://www.autofarm.co.uk/engines/water_cooled
Why when I'm underwriting a 996 do I get asked if it taps, rattles or leaks oil?
As common problems go that's a fairly annoying one really.
Why when I'm underwriting a 996 do I get asked if it taps, rattles or leaks oil?
As common problems go that's a fairly annoying one really.
JuniorD said:
924, 928, 944 and 968 are watercooled too
Yes your right I forgot about them, but was thinking of the flat 6, 996 model was the first water cooled one of them.Regarding my ill informed opinions...........
Wasn't saying they were crap cars, who wouldn't like a 911 one day. Just that the potential for a major engine failure with £10k repair bills is never far away. Rear main oil leaks, cylinder cracks required very specialist repair and intermediate shaft failures are common faults they occur far to often on the 996. Dr G kindly providing the link to one of said specialist above.
I've had both and SSE is more fun but 996 (facelift and Revo) is a great all 'rounder.
Interestingly, I'd but another SSE but next modern 911 would have to be a turbo or GT3.
Modern 911's have things called warranties which deal with 996 engine issues. It is however in my view blown way out of proportion. Good luck with either.
Interestingly, I'd but another SSE but next modern 911 would have to be a turbo or GT3.
Modern 911's have things called warranties which deal with 996 engine issues. It is however in my view blown way out of proportion. Good luck with either.
Dr G said:
http://www.autofarm.co.uk/engines/water_cooled
Why when I'm underwriting a 996 do I get asked if it taps, rattles or leaks oil?
As common problems go that's a fairly annoying one really.
From Autofarm's website:Why when I'm underwriting a 996 do I get asked if it taps, rattles or leaks oil?
As common problems go that's a fairly annoying one really.
Alternative repair solutions and tuning technology for your 996, 997, Cayman or Boxster engine, including capacity upgrades for all M96 & M97 engines.
Whether you are a staunch air-cooled proponent or not, the water-cooled ‘M96’ engine that first appeared in late 1996 in the Boxster, and has subsequently been employed in both the 996 and 997, is a quite remarkable piece of Porsche engineering.
Nevertheless there have been certain problems with it; increasing mechanical noise, oil leaks, failing intermediate shaft bearings, and most significantly, failure of cylinder liners, which up until now has required a full engine replacement.
It has to be said however that engines with these problems represent only a very small proportion of the total units produced. Whilst engine replacement has been subsidised by the factory, this route can still be very expensive for the owner.
From Hartech's website:
"Before we start detailing faults and solutions it is
important to us to put the incidences of failures
reported mainly on the Internet or brought to us
for repair - into perspective. We do not know
exact National or World wide figures but it is very
clear to us that most cars have been performing
very well with no problems at all for many
thousands of miles"
Tame Technician said:
Yes your right I forgot about them, but was thinking of the flat 6, 996 model was the first water cooled one of them.
Actually, the 986 boxster was the first (fully) water cooled flat 6 Production Porsche wasn't it?(the 959 had water cooled cylinder heads IIRC)Never had a problem with the engine in my 996, coming up to 70000 miles now. yes, there are some known issues (RMS, IMS), but you can say that about most cars on the road (e.g. coil packs, Head gasket failures, etc). Searching the internet gives a bit of a skewed view I reckon- people are far more likely to post about their problems rather than posting about how nothing has gone wrong...
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