Porsche nuts; Im looking to spend 65-70k, which one??

[andyfry]

Im in the market for a 911. I had initially set my heart on a 911 c2 s manual. 65k would get me into a nearly new 2nd generation model. I have driven manual and PDK - once i had done this it only confused me more.
Just to add more confusion I have been searching the market and find myself now asking - should I get a 3/4 year old 911 turbo?? This age is a chioce between tiptronic or manual... I now have no idea what Im doing!
All i know is I had an E46 M3 cab a couple of years ago and had a near miss with my warrenty ending and the good old smg box falling to bits which would have cost 7k+vat!

What should i get?
Are there any faults on gearboxes etc I should know about?

Any serious help would be appreciated!

Thanks
Andy

[Tallbut Buxomly]

This is what you need. Last of the best porkers in terms of looks and sounds.

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1435794.htm

[sday12]

You're on the wrong forum,
Try here: http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/forum.asp?h=0...

[Tallbut Buxomly]

This is what you need. Last of the best porkers in terms of looks and sounds.

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1435794.htm

[petrolsniffer]

Show you have balls the size of coconuts and get a gt2

[911stu]

Depends what you are gonna use it for, if its used every day or not.You could go for a 993 rs or a pre 71 looking recreation( little chrome bumpers with quick running gear usually based on a 964). Or if you want to clock up some miles a GT3 of some discription. That money would bag you a 996 GT3 RS. Or as previously suggested a 993 turbo would fit the bill. If it were my money i dont think i could bring myself do spend it on a run of the mill nearly new 997, as good as they are!!!

[andyfry]

Thanks to everyone who has replied.

I will be using the car everyday to be honest (will probably spend all day every day in it).
Petrolsniffer-my balls are big enough that i have 2 small children! they will be in the back plenty so a gt or gtrs wont cut the mustard im afraid.
Im not a track nut either - and not really into scaffolding around my ears!

Anyone know whats best between tiptronic and manual on the 911 turbo?

To be honest I dont want to go any older than an 07 plate on whatever I buy.. thats just my preference..

Thanks

[M-J-B]

C2S with PDK with that money would be my choice.

The PDK is light years ahead of the old Tip and the C2S gives you a 3.8 with more hp. It won't be as fast as a Turbo, but it's not far behind and it's also not the same money

[uuf361]

Turbo would be my choice and the 997 not the 993!!! The 997 is a great car......in Turbo guise there are less manuals than tips - when I was looking very few manuals and despite what a lot of people say I really like the tip - it is a great box.....

[andyfry]

Im leaning towards the trubo to be honest - plus if its 3 years old the heaviest part of the loss has been swallowed..
Have you had any problems with yours since owning?

[edo]

997 Turbo (997.1), or a very nice 997.2 C2S.

[IMI A]

andyfry said:

Im leaning towards the trubo to be honest - plus if its 3 years old the heaviest part of the loss has been swallowed..
Have you had any problems with yours since owning?

3 years and 29k miles in 07 997 turbo I've had very few probs from new (clutch accumulator and servo has caused a few trips back to dealer but there is now a modded part available supplied by OPC). I honestly can't think of any other weak spot in the cars design.

For £65k-£70k you will not find a better car. Try and find an 07 car with less than 10k miles from an OPC as it will come with a no quibble warranty - in fact when buying car rather than trying to chip price I would personally insist on a 2 yr extended warranty.

Turbos knock the spots of any gen 1 or gen 2 C2s IMO

[edo]

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1520107.htm



911 [997] TURBO COUPE 2dr (2007)
8,977 miles £71,850

GT Silver Metallic Coupe.

3600cc Petrol, Manual.

PCM Satellite Navigation,Sport Chrono Package Plus,Electric Seats,Heated Seats,Electric Slide/Tilt Sunroof,Park Assist,Aluminium Gearshift And Handbrake,Door Entry Guards in Stainless,Bose Sound System,6CD Changer,Porsche VTS,Heated front seat

[betternotbigger]

If you don't mind your car weighing 150kg more than a C2S and not having rear wheel drive, thus understeering significantly more, then get a turbo and console yourself that is good in the overtaking department...

If you want a proper 911 experience, without the hassles that an older car might bring (as your post suggests you would prefer) then get a new or nearly new C2 or C2S. Manual or PDK depending on your preference. Plenty fast enough and sublime on anything from the motorway to the most demanding mountain pass. Generally I prefer the involvement of my manual but there are times (on the most demanding roads or in slow traffic) where PDK would make life simpler for a driver as untalented as me.

For that money you could even spec your own new C2 for the perfect car for you (and get the superior 18 inch wheels as standard... but that's another debate). I got a C2S because of HP envy but I'm not sure it's the better car.

[One Trick Pony]

Living in a country where it rains for half of the year, a Turbo makes a strong arguement over a RWD C2. The Turbo slug is addictive so you pile on the leptons at an incredible rate. The previous poster mentioned understeer, not on a public road it won't, the grip levels are unbelievable. Don't believe me, check out the original 911 hater's vid here.

Edited by One Trick Pony on Saturday 3rd April 12:33

[993AL]

I'm curently looking at at 997GT2 so might be selling my 997 Turbo - I'll PM you the details if you are interested.

[betternotbigger]

One Trick Pony said:

Living in a country where it rains for half of the year, a Turbo makes a strong arguement over a RWD C2. The Turbo slug is addictive so you pile on the leptons at an incredible rate. The previous poster mentioned understeer, not on a public road it won't, the grip levels are unbelievable. Don't believe me, check out the original 911 hater's vid here.

Edited by One Trick Pony on Saturday 3rd April 12:33

I live in a part of the north where it rains every day of the year and I have been driving RWD Porsches for years without ever once feeling the need for 4WD. Winter tyres would have been handy on a few occasions, mind...

You can't get away from the fact that the Turbo is a heavy car. Damn, my C2S at 150kg lighter feels heavy...

[marlinmunro]

997 Turbo, anything less you might as well have a Boxster, do not believe the chaps who extol the virtues of the other Pork, its only sour grapes

[betternotbigger]

marlinmunro said:

997 Turbo, anything less you might as well have a Boxster, do not believe the chaps who extol the virtues of the other Pork, its only sour grapes

C2 or C2S. With the 911, less is more...

[marlinmunro]

betternotbigger said:

marlinmunro said:

997 Turbo, anything less you might as well have a Boxster, do not believe the chaps who extol the virtues of the other Pork, its only sour grapes

C2 or C2S. With the 911, less is more...

You will be guaranteed LESS