o no tyres again! N numbers
o no tyres again! N numbers
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bob944

Original Poster:

163 posts

260 months

Tuesday 13th April 2004
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what do the N numbers mean on tyers, (sorry dogsharks i carnt spel IIIther) is it just consecutive numbers or does it refer to the compound. I'll need to change my tyres soon and was considering Contisport 2's. However i'm an old fart and my priority is for a a 'quiet' tyre with lots of tread pattern that i dont have to change for a long time. Now looking at So2's but cannot find any info on Bridgestone web site. Car 944 S2. Any comments?

manek

2,977 posts

301 months

Tuesday 13th April 2004
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I recently bought four Pirelli PZero Rossos (N rated) as a good compromise between ride, noise and affordability. £500 the set from Chessington Tyres which was quite a bargain. Car's a 993 C2 btw.

DustyC

12,820 posts

271 months

Tuesday 13th April 2004
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I think you will have trouble getting SO2s now since they are almost extinct and have been replaced sith S03s.

The S03s have hard sidewalls and so a harder ride. This is more apparent on light cars (not sure of 944S2 wieght). Running a couple of PSI under though solves the problem and the ride is as good as So2s like this.

I dont speak from experience but have asked the questions myself as am about to change from SO2s to S03s.

The alternative is to go for "Toyo Proxes T1S" which have the same soft sidewall as the S02s and so give the same ride.

Hope that helps.
For cheap quotes and more info try
mytyres.co.uk and blackcircles.com

clubsport

7,380 posts

275 months

Tuesday 13th April 2004
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So2 are available off the shelf if you look very hard.

If you don't want to look very hard,,go to the pistonheads oilypages and you will find more than 3 companies advertising who can get them the same day,,, you then enter the silly game of playing them off against each other and end up getting the tyres at a bargain price!

Edited to say that is my recent experience rather than speculation.

>> Edited by clubsport on Tuesday 13th April 20:48

DRG

254 posts

273 months

Tuesday 13th April 2004
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N Numbered tyres are Porsche approved tyres. You can fit non Porsche approved if you so wish. The various numbers refer to compound changes and in the case of the SO2 N3 to N4 (strictly SO2AZ) a tread pattern change as well. You can have different N numbers on different axles but not on the same axle.

If you want ultimate grip (IMO) go for the SO2's but the compromise is they don't last long. I get (got) about 10K of my rears. Some quote around 5K! If you are after a long lasting tyre I would advise looking else where.

Jeff's tyres (Warrington) had some last week if you want to try them 01925 247560.

Al

>> Edited by DRG on Tuesday 13th April 22:53

andrew s2

40 posts

259 months

Tuesday 13th April 2004
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what about SO1 s. any good?

Melv

4,708 posts

282 months

Wednesday 14th April 2004
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S02's avlble from Elite Tyres in Horsham and Wraysbury Tyres in Chertsey.

If u got 10K on the rears u r not trying hard enough!!

Melv

Bananaman

201 posts

260 months

Wednesday 14th April 2004
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www.mytyres.co.uk/

You'll get SO2's & most others from here at a good price.

Toyo's seem to be better value but arn't N rated

>> Edited by Bananaman on Wednesday 14th April 11:59

DustyC

12,820 posts

271 months

Wednesday 14th April 2004
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Bananaman said:
www.mytyres.co.uk/

You'll get SO2's & most others from here at a good price.


Did they just stop doing SO2s in certain sizes then?
I cant find 205/55/15 and 245/45/16 in most places.
The bigger ones I have only ever found at Mytyres.

cuneus

5,963 posts

259 months

Wednesday 14th April 2004
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WRT to S02's

225 N3 is A LOT WIDER than the 245 non-N3 (about 50mm)

manek

2,977 posts

301 months

Wednesday 14th April 2004
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DustyC said:


Bananaman said:
<a href="http://www.mytyres.co.uk/"><a href="http://www.mytyres.co.uk/">www.mytyres.co.uk/</a></a>

You'll get SO2's & most others from here at a good price.




Did they just stop doing SO2s in certain sizes then?
I cant find 205/55/15 and 245/45/16 in most places.
The bigger ones I have only ever found at Mytyres.


ISTR they don't do a 205/55/15. Put 225/50/15s on -- they're pretty much the same rolling diameter.

>> Edited by manek on Wednesday 14th April 16:00

DRG

254 posts

273 months

Wednesday 14th April 2004
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Melv said:

If u got 10K on the rears u r not trying hard enough!!


Melv

4,708 posts

282 months

Wednesday 14th April 2004
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cuneus said:
WRT to S02's

225 N3 is A LOT WIDER than the 245 non-N3 (about 50mm)


Don't be daft, 225 or 245 denotes the tread width -the 245 will be wider than the 225 regardless of N rating, tyre make etc...

Melv

cuneus

5,963 posts

259 months

Wednesday 14th April 2004
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Melv, just because your engine is at the wrong end doesn't mean I'm blind or several other people.

The fitters could not believe it either but mounted tyres were compared and measured

manek

2,977 posts

301 months

Wednesday 14th April 2004
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cuneus said:
Melv, just because your engine is at the wrong end doesn't mean I'm blind or several other people.

The fitters could not believe it either but mounted tyres were compared and measured

That can't be right...

Melv

4,708 posts

282 months

Thursday 15th April 2004
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cuneus said:
Melv, just because your engine is at the wrong end doesn't mean I'm blind or several other people.

The fitters could not believe it either but mounted tyres were compared and measured




I stand corrected......

Melv

bob944

Original Poster:

163 posts

260 months

Saturday 17th April 2004
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Thanks for all advice. If the N numbers are related to rubber compound, are lower nos softer or harder?

diver944

1,846 posts

293 months

Saturday 17th April 2004
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Bob, When Porsche test and approve a tyre for the first time it is given an N0 rating. If the manufacturer changes the spec of the tyre and Porsche retest it they then give it an N1, then an N2 and so on.

Porsche did not bring in the N system until the 964 and 968 came along. They never used this sytem on 944's so don't get too hung up about trying to find the latest N rated tyre - it will have been tested on a 996 or Boxster

If you do want an N rated tyre then the closest thing would be to find one tested on 968's but remember they stopped making 968 nearly 10 years ago anyway. Your local OPC should have a list of all the N rated tyres and for which vehicles, so just give them a call.

bob944

Original Poster:

163 posts

260 months

Saturday 17th April 2004
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Paul
Thanks for your help. Just got PCGB membership docs this morning, and swipe me your're right, theres a guy on their forum with the same sign in name, and he's giving out similar info on tyres I note!