New 911's and centre lock wheels ?
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B16JUS said:
Anyone own or know the answer.
Does each car come with a big socket ? i presume they are locking so that means each car is different to a degree ( maby 30 different locking combinations ) ?
No. Can't take the wheels off. OPC job only (unless you buy the kit). 550nm torque is correct, so you'd need a damn big pole to take them off anyway!Does each car come with a big socket ? i presume they are locking so that means each car is different to a degree ( maby 30 different locking combinations ) ?
centre lock only means its a taper lock one nut,no combinations etc
I have a 1 meter bar ,with a 3/4 inch drive which fits the porsche socket,it sits inside a piece of foam pipe insulation.
You can take the wheels off your self,the important part is read the handbook and make sure the centre spline lock, springs back out.
The porsche guide line is 500nm for normal use and 600 for track work.
Sealy do a nice multiplyer, that you can use with a conventional short torque wrench,its not difficult,sounds great to have centre locks on a road car,in reality a pain for most people.
Almost as bad ,is no spare wheel!on a road car.
I have a 1 meter bar ,with a 3/4 inch drive which fits the porsche socket,it sits inside a piece of foam pipe insulation.
You can take the wheels off your self,the important part is read the handbook and make sure the centre spline lock, springs back out.
The porsche guide line is 500nm for normal use and 600 for track work.
Sealy do a nice multiplyer, that you can use with a conventional short torque wrench,its not difficult,sounds great to have centre locks on a road car,in reality a pain for most people.
Almost as bad ,is no spare wheel!on a road car.
Porsche sell a good breaker bar which is telescopic for about £200, useful to get the wheels off. Still need a torque wrench to put them back on.
You should always torque the wheels up with the wheel lifted off the ground. This ensures the centre nut sits correctly on the wheels cone fitting.
Also use a plastic trim removing tool to remove the centre caps as a screw driver will bend the metal covers on them.
The locking pins can be a bit of a nightmare as they can stick. Just make sure the centre spindle is completely out and engaged with the teeth on the inside of the centre nut else the wheel is not locked.
Lastly if you have PCCB brakes like me, then i would advise not removing any wheels unless you have the special Porsche Dildo tool ! Costs over a grand to buy though !
You should always torque the wheels up with the wheel lifted off the ground. This ensures the centre nut sits correctly on the wheels cone fitting.
Also use a plastic trim removing tool to remove the centre caps as a screw driver will bend the metal covers on them.
The locking pins can be a bit of a nightmare as they can stick. Just make sure the centre spindle is completely out and engaged with the teeth on the inside of the centre nut else the wheel is not locked.
Lastly if you have PCCB brakes like me, then i would advise not removing any wheels unless you have the special Porsche Dildo tool ! Costs over a grand to buy though !
Edited by cdixon on Thursday 31st March 09:09
Old Trout said:
There is an earlier update - 500nm for road, 600nm for track (this was after the car was launched so I guess someone lost a wheel on a track day!)
Yep my cousin lost a wheel on his track day. A couple of days after the local OPC fitted new tyres. Cost Porsche several thousands of euros to fix the damage !!!(The accident did not happen in this country or with a UK OPC)
The centre lock wheel design bugs me because they all use right hand threads. Why did Porsche not just use the Carrera GT centre locks ?
The update that says to tighten the wheel nut torque to 600nm for track also says that the cone surfaces that mate must also be well greased. I have heard stories that some of the CL nuts have practically welded to the wheels after several heat cycles from track driving, hence adding the grease. Adding the grease could also be why the torque is required to be raised to 600nm ?
Edited by cdixon on Thursday 31st March 09:06
cdixon said:
The update that says to tighten the wheel nut torque to 600nm for track also says that the cone surfaces that mate must also be well greased. I have heard stories that some of the CL nuts have practically welded to the wheels after several heat cycles from track driving, hence adding the grease. Adding the grease could also be why the torque is required to be raised to 600nm ?
Prolly with some good ole Optimoly TA (aluminium paste) to allow greater torque accuracy.
GT Glee said:
cdixon said:
The update that says to tighten the wheel nut torque to 600nm for track also says that the cone surfaces that mate must also be well greased. I have heard stories that some of the CL nuts have practically welded to the wheels after several heat cycles from track driving, hence adding the grease. Adding the grease could also be why the torque is required to be raised to 600nm ?
Prolly with some good ole Optimoly TA (aluminium paste) to allow greater torque accuracy.Are like the good old days on my Jaguar 3.4 MK2, just get a big hide mallet and a wooden adaptor and bash away.
Stupid idea on a road car, or a track car for that matter unless your entering LM 24.
Are penny dropped...its so you have to buy the very special tyres that Porsche sell that ar'nt like the other's you can buy on the high street for a third of the price.
I'm guessing they'll padlock the engine lids down before to long as well!
Stupid idea on a road car, or a track car for that matter unless your entering LM 24.
Are penny dropped...its so you have to buy the very special tyres that Porsche sell that ar'nt like the other's you can buy on the high street for a third of the price.
I'm guessing they'll padlock the engine lids down before to long as well!
Edited by Bill Stein on Thursday 31st March 21:34
Bill Stein said:
Are like the good old days on my Jaguar 3.4 MK2, just get a big hide mallet and a wooden adaptor and bash away.
Stupid idea on a road car, or a track car for that matter unless your entering LM 24.
Are penny dropped...its so you have to buy the very special tyres that Porsche sell that ar'nt like the other's you can buy on the high street for a third of the price.
I'm guessing they'll padlock the engine lids down before to long as well!
So if you get a nail in your tyre do you have to get trailered to an OPC?Stupid idea on a road car, or a track car for that matter unless your entering LM 24.
Are penny dropped...its so you have to buy the very special tyres that Porsche sell that ar'nt like the other's you can buy on the high street for a third of the price.
I'm guessing they'll padlock the engine lids down before to long as well!
Edited by Bill Stein on Thursday 31st March 21:34
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