let me down.....
let me down.....
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m0ssy

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920 posts

216 months

Saturday 2nd July 2011
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Well I am afraid to say the Tuscan has let me down for the first time in over 3 years of ownership.

I am stuck in B&Q carpark and it won't start frown

Immobiliser switches off, fuel pump primes, turns over but will not start. Only just had it in for a 12000 mile service a few weeks ago so feeling a bit pee'd off, especially as I am parked right in front of the main door too!

deeen

6,313 posts

269 months

Saturday 2nd July 2011
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Did it fire at all? Even 1 cough? Could it be flooded?

Might be worth taking the fuel pump fuse out and trying again?

Epsom... not too far... which B+Q are you?

I think I'm about 30 mins away, let me know if you need a hand.

m0ssy

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920 posts

216 months

Saturday 2nd July 2011
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It almost fired but now flooded. I left it for 30 mins before trying again. Just called msm insurance breakdown so should be with me within the hour.

A bit weird really, I have had a couple of efi faults recently and left tesco new malden to come to b&q new malden but when I left tesco she struggled to start but fired up, perhaps I shouldn't have stopped the engine before going home especially as they didn't have my item in stock!

A bit pissed off though as like I said just had a 12k service

m0ssy

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920 posts

216 months

Saturday 2nd July 2011
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Thanks for the offer to come here but breakdown on their way. Where is the fuel pump fuse?

deeen

6,313 posts

269 months

Saturday 2nd July 2011
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The only time mine let me down it had similar symptoms, turned out a temperature sensor had gone, so it was always overfuelling (cold start mode). Stopped in a petrol station, then flooded when I tried to start it.

Following advice, I started it by taking out the fuel pump fuse, starting it, then replacing the fuse before it died.

The permanent fix was the new sensor of course, just a few quid, here's hoping your fix is as simple and straightforward!

deeen

6,313 posts

269 months

Saturday 2nd July 2011
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m0ssy said:
Thanks for the offer to come here but breakdown on their way. Where is the fuel pump fuse?
It's in the fuse box above your right ankle, as you sit in the driver's seat.

m0ssy

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920 posts

216 months

Saturday 2nd July 2011
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I have no idea which fuse it is on the box

m0ssy

Original Poster:

920 posts

216 months

Saturday 2nd July 2011
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I have no idea which fuse it is on the box

deeen

6,313 posts

269 months

nrick

1,866 posts

187 months

Saturday 2nd July 2011
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9 from end nearest to yellow relay 20a

deeen

6,313 posts

269 months

Saturday 2nd July 2011
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Can you see that link? Kind of hard to explain...

Ok let's try.

You will see inside the fuse box small fuses around the edge, and an array (3x5) of larger boxes in the middle. Relays, I think? Anyway that's what I took out.

The corner nearest you as you sit in the driver's seat should be a yellow box for the fan.

The next one forward, a bit larger, is the fuel pump.

In the small fuses around the outside, it's also fuse no. 34, which is a 20 amp fuse, according to the diagram.

Yes fuse 34 is 9 from the end, if the spare fuse is still in the end slot.

Edited by deeen on Saturday 2nd July 16:11

m0ssy

Original Poster:

920 posts

216 months

Saturday 2nd July 2011
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You lot are amazing smile took the fuel pump fuse out started her then popped the fuse back in. Superb. Will get online when I am home to look at what needs replacing

deeen

6,313 posts

269 months

Saturday 2nd July 2011
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Nice work, well done! Good feeling when she starts again, isn't it?

Hope it's something cheap and simple, like mine was, good luck, Dean.

m0ssy

Original Poster:

920 posts

216 months

Saturday 2nd July 2011
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back now smile

What could be need replacing? is it most likely the same problem you had deeen?

m0ssy

Original Poster:

920 posts

216 months

Saturday 2nd July 2011
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Something else is happening too..

I have noticed a clicking noise coming from the fuse box recently.

It appears to be the yellow relay clicking for the fan, so swapped the 2 yellow relays over, the other one was for dipped beam.

Funny thing is there is still a clicking noise coming from the swapped relay for the fan, and it may be a complete coincidence but when it clicks it also shows EFI fault on the screen.

Shall i buy new relays? and could this also mean there is something wrong with the board?

nrick

1,866 posts

187 months

Saturday 2nd July 2011
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I would say a dicky temp sensor. Need to hook up to the diagnostics and check the ecu temp. The ecu controls the relay for the fans, so would seem possible. It is not the same input as the dash temp.

deeen

6,313 posts

269 months

Saturday 2nd July 2011
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m0ssy said:
back now smile

What could be need replacing? is it most likely the same problem you had deeen?
Sorry Mossy but you are now at the point where I took mine to the garage for diagnosis!

If it starts fine from stone cold, say tomorrow morning, then it could be the same as mine.

Does it just say EFI fault, or does it give you a letter?

As Nrick says, you need to connect it up (or find a man who can) to find out what is happening.

I think it will probably reveal that the car is allergic to B+Q.
How many bags of cement can you get in the boot, anyway?


Edited by deeen on Saturday 2nd July 19:27

nelly1

5,663 posts

255 months

Saturday 2nd July 2011
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I would check the 100a fuse under the passenger-side carpet, as it may be cracked and causing the ignition relay to cut out momentarily.

Failing that, as has been mentioned, it's laptop time.

It's possible the service may have dislodged or damaged a plug or a sensor (the coolant temp. is next to the oil filter), so 1/2 hour removing the bonnet / airbox may prove fruitful.

Do you have a laptop and the software?

m0ssy

Original Poster:

920 posts

216 months

Sunday 3rd July 2011
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nelly1 said:
I would check the 100a fuse under the passenger-side carpet, as it may be cracked and causing the ignition relay to cut out momentarily.

Failing that, as has been mentioned, it's laptop time.

It's possible the service may have dislodged or damaged a plug or a sensor (the coolant temp. is next to the oil filter), so 1/2 hour removing the bonnet / airbox may prove fruitful.

Do you have a laptop and the software?
Have a laptop but no software or connecting lead. I guess best try and purchase in the week.