Tuscan not well...

Tuscan not well...

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m0ssy

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920 posts

207 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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Tuscan isn't well atm.

Fancied a change so shipped it up to Str8 Six this morning as opposed to my normal garage, its always good to compare the competition wink

Jason comes across well so feel it's in safe hands.

Just looking out from the office window at my courtesy car.....

some hyundai or daewoo silver thing, looks a bit like a radio controlled car! mind you it seemed enormous inside after driving the Tuscan.

Anyone else had this sporty little number for a few days?

Arapo

251 posts

194 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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Is it the mighty Perodua Kenari?

Had it a couple of times for the day while my Tuscan was cared for by the guys. Took me some time to realise what the make was. I think its Malaysian or from somewhere there in Asia..!


Edited by Arapo on Monday 12th September 17:30

m0ssy

Original Poster:

920 posts

207 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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Here she is:




Thinking of suggesting to the misses that we go cruising in town tonight with the stereo up and windows down wink

Alexdaredevilz

5,697 posts

194 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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Nice!

Thought this might give you a idea


Arapo

251 posts

194 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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Oh yes!! That's the one... :0)))

MrChips

3,288 posts

225 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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Uh oh... the secrets out! People travel from all over the UK to take their car to Jason and the team not for the service or the expertise, but to have a go in the infamour Perodua!

If I remember... this car had a whole "spotted" thread of it's own. hehe

My car is up there at the mo waiting to get the engine out...yours must have sympathy pains and has gone up to help!

Oh, and when you leave work... the car's the silver one on the right, not the red one on the left.

Edited by MrChips on Monday 12th September 21:43

Andy Pandie

1,164 posts

224 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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Ah the silver one, is that the one with the manual box? We had the automatic red one with the black roof last year, great drive back to Hampshire, SWMBO'd refused to join me on the return trip, oh well every cloud...... wink

DonkeyApple

62,986 posts

184 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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m0ssy said:
Here she is:




Thinking of suggesting to the misses that we go cruising in town tonight with the stereo up and windows down wink
I don't think the screen on my iPhone is very good. I can only see 3 industrial wheelie bins. wink

Tuscan Wil

422 posts

201 months

Tuesday 13th September 2011
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I think Jason's courtsey cars deserve one of those "my other car is a TVR" sticker.


m0ssy

Original Poster:

920 posts

207 months

Tuesday 13th September 2011
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This one is automatic. Not sure on engine size but would be very suprised if over 1.0lt

Although last night to its credit I took a newish BMW with tinted windows at the lights biggrin I snuck up under the radar alongside, I looked over and gave the young chap a nod, should have seen the suprise on his face when I left that sucker for dust wink

I admit to knowing the lights like the back of my hand, so could anticipate the change hehe

Steve Devaney

718 posts

217 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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Andy Pandie said:
Ah the silver one, is that the one with the manual box? We had the automatic red one with the black roof last year, great drive back to Hampshire, SWMBO'd refused to join me on the return trip, oh well every cloud...... wink
The silver one is Auto. I had this one for a couple of weeks over Xmas a few years ago and nearly parked it into Jasons wall as I had never driven an auto before!

Thinking of returning to the fold next year as I really should never have sold my Tuscan. The amoount of times I actually use the rear seats in the Tuscan replacement does not warrent having them really. Great car though the Porsche is, it does lack the visual presence of the TVR.

Robertjp

2,281 posts

240 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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Only ever driven the red one...its an 'event' just like a TVR hehe

whats up with the Tuscan Jon?

m0ssy

Original Poster:

920 posts

207 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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Robertjp said:
Only ever driven the red one...its an 'event' just like a TVR hehe

whats up with the Tuscan Jon?
Tuscan been playing up for a while Rob, something wrong with the fuse board. The relay for the fans keeps shorting and clicking, also the car was overheating because of this, fuel pump was playing silly buggers as had to occasionally remove fuel pump fuse if it flooded from stationary. When the fuse board started shorting caused all my lights to flicker.... bloody pain in the backside.

So took it to Jason to sort out. Trouble is I have just had a word with him and he cant find anything wrong with it frown

It was playing up really bad on the way to airport and fuseboard shorting continually. When I went to retrieve the car on Sunday I was waiting around in Airparks carpark at Gatwick for about an hour until some chap sheepishly came in to tell me he couldn't get it started (as I expected) So when I went to retrieve the car with him I noticed it was parked in the multi-storey part of their premises under cover for a week.

The fusebox has hardly played up since. So... I'm thinking there may be water ingression somehow onto the fuseboard. As although at home I cover it, water still gets in through the cover as its not the most expensive cover (maybe time to fabisol it)

Remedies are, Jason is commissioned to now fix all door seal leaks and is keeping it for a while longer to see what's what, thats the good news.

Bad news is the Perodua Kenari is all mine until late next week scratchchin although am staring to get quite attached to her now following being the butt of car jokes in the office this week.....

Anyway some figures to cheer me up:

Performance for the Perodua Kenari
0-60 mph: 17.7 secs
Top Speed: 87 mph
Engine: EJ-VE petrol, transverse, water cooled, in-line 3
cylinder, 12 valve with variable timing and DOHC
Bore/stroke: 72 x 81 mm
Capacity: 989 cc
Max Power: (kW/rpm) 43.0/6,000
Compression: 10.0 ± 0.3
Max Torque: 88.3 Nm at 3,600 rpm
Fuel Syste: Electronic sequential fuel injection

Suspension
Front: MacPherson strut, independent coil spring, anti-roll bar
Rear: Semi-trailing arm with 3-link location, coil sprung beam
axle

Turning circle: 4.6 metres
Wheels/tyres: 4.5J with 155/65R13

Economy Automatic 3-speed
Urban (mpg): 35.3
Extra-urban (mpg): 46.3
Combined (mpg): 41.5
CO2 (g/km): 165
Fuel tank capacity: 40 litres

Gross vehicle weight: 1270 kg!

Turning circle is good.

biggrin


Robertjp

2,281 posts

240 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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m0ssy said:
Tuscan been playing up for a while Rob, something wrong with the fuse board. The relay for the fans keeps shorting and clicking, also the car was overheating because of this, fuel pump was playing silly buggers as had to occasionally remove fuel pump fuse if it flooded from stationary. When the fuse board started shorting caused all my lights to flicker.... bloody pain in the backside.

So took it to Jason to sort out. Trouble is I have just had a word with him and he cant find anything wrong with it frown

It was playing up really bad on the way to airport and fuseboard shorting continually. When I went to retrieve the car on Sunday I was waiting around in Airparks carpark at Gatwick for about an hour until some chap sheepishly came in to tell me he couldn't get it started (as I expected) So when I went to retrieve the car with him I noticed it was parked in the multi-storey part of their premises under cover for a week.

The fusebox has hardly played up since. So... I'm thinking there may be water ingression somehow onto the fuseboard. As although at home I cover it, water still gets in through the cover as its not the most expensive cover (maybe time to fabisol it)

Remedies are, Jason is commissioned to now fix all door seal leaks and is keeping it for a while longer to see what's what, thats the good news.
sounds very annoying and one of those things thats difficult to find! Could be all sorts from a sticking relay to dry solder joints, solder bleeding between pcb strands etc etc...pain in the @ss.

be interesting to hear what the problem was, and if it is water ingress, where it was getting in, cause it isnt immediately obvious how water would get to the fuse box (without it being very clear to you that there was a leak!)

andyvdg

1,537 posts

298 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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You're in good hands, hopefully they can work out what is wrong. I had something similar with my Mk1 - I'd be driving along and then the electrics would cut out and then back in, quite fast, lights going on and off, relays clicking etc for a second and then go. Turns out it was the speedo sensor failing. Eventually it went up in a puff of smoke. Ah the good old days when you couldn't get replacement parts that worked. I think I got through 3 or 4 speedo sensors and 7 oil pressure sensors whilst I owned that car.......

dvs_dave

9,040 posts

240 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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andyvdg said:
You're in good hands, hopefully they can work out what is wrong. I had something similar with my Mk1 - I'd be driving along and then the electrics would cut out and then back in, quite fast, lights going on and off, relays clicking etc for a second and then go. Turns out it was the speedo sensor failing. Eventually it went up in a puff of smoke. Ah the good old days when you couldn't get replacement parts that worked. I think I got through 3 or 4 speedo sensors and 7 oil pressure sensors whilst I owned that car.......
Interesting.....mine has been doing this and the speedo sensor is a bit dodgy. Must get it changed at the next service.

gruffalo

7,883 posts

241 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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m0ssy said:
Here she is:




Thinking of suggesting to the misses that we go cruising in town tonight with the stereo up and windows down wink

In a perverse way I like that that car, drinks like a fish though.

Robertjp

2,281 posts

240 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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Any progress Jon?

Interesting i noticed this morning (since reading your post) that my whole dash flickers occasionally (in fact feels like all the power to the car flickers), and you hear a relay - think its the fans, but temp was indicating 88 - but i have a TVR Power chip so maybe they come on early or the in car display wasnt accurate. Its quite a severe, i wonder if the fans have an affect?

Maybe not related to your incident, but it seems they have a hugse start-up drain.

m0ssy

Original Poster:

920 posts

207 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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Robertjp said:
Any progress Jon?

Interesting i noticed this morning (since reading your post) that my whole dash flickers occasionally (in fact feels like all the power to the car flickers), and you hear a relay - think its the fans, but temp was indicating 88 - but i have a TVR Power chip so maybe they come on early or the in car display wasnt accurate. Its quite a severe, i wonder if the fans have an affect?

Maybe not related to your incident, but it seems they have a hugse start-up drain.
Progress is slow and the Perodua is still in my possession wink

The engine didn't need to be up to temperature to have a problem with shorting on the fuse board. Sometimes it would short on startup even and its pretty cold then. The reason I know its the fan relay is because I put my hand under the dash and could feel it shorting on that particular relay, also when dark had a look under there to see it shorting (a flicker of electricity through the plastic) so clearly shorting in this area.

Remember though Rob, if your whole pod flickers (shorting) it is highly likeley that all you other electrics including your lights will be flickering too. HIDs won't but I bet you £1 that your rear lights and brake lights are.

Robertjp

2,281 posts

240 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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m0ssy said:
Robertjp said:
Any progress Jon?


The engine didn't need to be up to temperature to have a problem with shorting on the fuse board. Sometimes it would short on startup even and its pretty cold then. The reason I know its the fan relay is because I put my hand under the dash and could feel it shorting on that particular relay, also when dark had a look under there to see it shorting (a flicker of electricity through the plastic) so clearly shorting in this area.

Remember though Rob, if your whole pod flickers (shorting) it is highly likeley that all you other electrics including your lights will be flickering too. HIDs won't but I bet you £1 that your rear lights and brake lights are.
Hmmm...let me know the outcome then...you're right, its something i need to keep my eye on!