Tuscan crash -Newport, Fife

[Chamorange]

This happened this morning.

Roads where icy!

Don't know if the driver was hurt but the car was badly damaged.

Is it someone on here?

[YAHOO]

Not good ..
But ice and TVR's dont mix on our Scottish roads ..

[blueg33]

Ouch. Hope the owner is ok.

I had a "moment" in mine on wednesday, exiting a roundabout, gentle throttle and a sudden slidey moment.

All the roads were dry on my trip except that roundabout exit which was slightly damp.

If the owner is on here and the car is reflex purple, I am looking for a passenger side mirror casing

(hope that's not too insensitive)

[ericgreveson]

Looks like a pretty big smash. Hope the driver is OK too.

I noticed the roads were slippery today even where dry when driving near Ratho. Fortunately I fitted winter tyres a couple of weeks ago so slides are a lot more predictable and loss of grip isn't anywhere near as bad. Can recommend ContiWinterContact TS 830P's for those still thinking about it.

[Walford]

ericgreveson said:

Looks like a pretty big smash. Hope the driver is OK too.

I noticed the roads were slippery today even where dry when driving near Ratho. Fortunately I fitted winter tyres a couple of weeks ago so slides are a lot more predictable and loss of grip isn't anywhere near as bad. Can recommend ContiWinterContact TS 830P's for those still thinking about it.

How many miles do you get out of soft winter tyres, i am only getting 3K from normal tyres on the rear

[nrick]

Hope everyone was ok, just be careful out there.

[scotty_d]

Hope every one was ok. I do not recognize the car from any of he Central or west coast meets but it does look like a sore one.

[dvs_dave]

Walford said:

ericgreveson said:

Looks like a pretty big smash. Hope the driver is OK too.

I noticed the roads were slippery today even where dry when driving near Ratho. Fortunately I fitted winter tyres a couple of weeks ago so slides are a lot more predictable and loss of grip isn't anywhere near as bad. Can recommend ContiWinterContact TS 830P's for those still thinking about it.

How many miles do you get out of soft winter tyres, i am only getting 3K from normal tyres on the rear

+1 Hope they're ok.

I bought a set of TS830's for last winter for my Tuscan and they're great. Hugely confidence inspiring. They were great in the snow and ice too which was most amusing!

The main reason I bought winters though was to avoid this sort of thing as much as possible. Unfortunately it seems to happen a few times every year in TVR land . For some reason TVRs seem especially prone to sudden loss of control on low grip or split mu surfaces. Even when other cars seem to not be having any problems.


P.S 3k out of a set of rears Either you drive like an absolute loon and wheel-spin everywhere or your car has wonky suspension.

[so called]

Hope everyone was OK.
Brings back bad memories.

[Laser Sag]

Walford said:

How many miles do you get out of soft winter tyres, i am only getting 3K from normal tyres on the rear

You must have avery enthusiastic driving style, winters are supposed to wear better than summers during the cold weather as the compounds are designed for the temperature. Put a set on the Sag last winter and they are hardly worn at all, they certainly give a lot more confidence than summer tyres in the current temperatures.

[natben]

Walford has slapped a big LS engine in his Tuscan with serious BHP and Torque so he won't get much out the rears.

Sorry to hear about the crash and hope the driver and any passengers escaped injury. And sad to see another TVR written of over the winter months.

Take care out there.

[ewan221]

Heard today that thankfully the driver was not seriously injured

Same cant be said for the car though

[Qwertyjon]

That was my boss who had this accident. It flipped on its nose up an embankment, a sign narrowly missing his head, stopped by a drystone wall, then rolled sideways back to the road. Someone was looking out for him that day. he luckily walked away a bit shaken up, but not a scratch on him.

Coppers say it was fuel on the road that played a big part.

The only part of the car that worked was the drivers door lol. It's only metal/fibreglass at the end of the day, that's why we pay our insurance. Luckily he was ok.

Edited by Qwertyjon on Tuesday 17th January 12:42

[Macey]

Hi Qwertyjon,

Thank you for the update on this, i'm glad that your boss is OK and hope that it has not put him off replacing it with another. It was also a breath of fresh air to hear that it was spilt fuel on the road that caused it and not the driver of a high powered sports car being too aggresive as most newspapers seem to report nowadays.

[blueg33]

Macey said:

Hi Qwertyjon,

Thank you for the update on this, i'm glad that your boss is OK and hope that it has not put him off replacing it with another. It was also a breath of fresh air to hear that it was spilt fuel on the road that caused it and not the driver of a high powered sports car being too aggresive as most newspapers seem to report nowadays.

^^^^ Seconded.

(many nay sayers on ph and in the real world will say the fuel thing is an excuse - having had a similar experience I can confirm that diesel, slightly damp roads and a lightweight rear wheel drive car are not a good mix)

[nrick]

blueg33 said:

^^^^ Seconded.

(many nay sayers on ph and in the real world will say the fuel thing is an excuse - having had a similar experience I can confirm that diesel, slightly damp roads and a lightweight rear wheel drive car are not a good mix)

Fully agree, catching the M3 out sometimes as well.

[alex_gray255]

I hit the combination of fuel on the road + a damp roundabout in my 4x4 Subaru, going 20 mph about 2 years ago. That still did a 360 on the roundabout.

Fortunately, I missed everything and was able to drive away with just a slight flutter of the nerves, but it just shows you that no matter what type of car you are in - even 4x4s - you can still get caught out.

[Robertjp]

Glad he is OK, reassuring he walked away too - i have had a number of 'debates' with my other half recently - her saying that the Tuscan is a 'death trap', which of course i take issue with.

I know all too well the perils of diesel on the road after totalling my first bike slipping off on a patch of diesel, it was like ice.


Regardless though, you get a queue of people (my wife included) waiting to tell you how dangerous bikes are, as they do with my Tuscan and that you shouldnt drive them. In a way - its hard to argue that they are just as safe, the same conditions in a front wheel drive car MAY well have just caused understeer. However, whatever the circumstances, people just see powerful car / bike and jump to their own conclusions...

[anonymous-user]

nrick said:

blueg33 said:

^^^^ Seconded.

(many nay sayers on ph and in the real world will say the fuel thing is an excuse - having had a similar experience I can confirm that diesel, slightly damp roads and a lightweight rear wheel drive car are not a good mix)

Fully agree, catching the M3 out sometimes as well.

Try meeting diesel on a motorbike! Now that's scary!!!!

[Cockey]

This does worry me a bit. Are you guys that have experienced diesel on the road saying that regardless of how you are driving, the car is going to go out of shape when you hit it? Even if being a total granny with the throttle? I've had a few 'moments' in slippery conditions, and each of them I look back and realise I was being too heavy footed for the conditions - even if just marginally.

The sort of accident above looks very scary if there really was nothing you could do about it.