Bugger - Sodding Japanese Rally Cars
Bugger - Sodding Japanese Rally Cars
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blueg33

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45,248 posts

248 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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Couldn't shake off an Evo IX FQ 360 today! It was evident he could get the power down a lot sooner exiting the roundabouts and I just couldn't shake him. I was changing at the first shift light.

Most annoying!

Just looked at the stats - Evo IX FQ 360, 0-60 4.0secs

HarryW

15,896 posts

293 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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Never underestimate any EVO, they are quick cars.

blueg33

Original Poster:

45,248 posts

248 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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HarryW said:
Never underestimate any EVO, they are quick cars.
Indeed - on the plus side for the Tuscan owner, the Evo is not pleasing to the eye smile

Basil Brush

5,540 posts

287 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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Having seen how the Evo lot can get up the hill climb at Harewood I'm not sure I'd try.

spongy

2,236 posts

185 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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lol they are fast,my old jap machine was faster than my prescent car.....but i would much rather have my tvr in so many ways.You got to spend big bucks on em to get em this fast,but the tvr comes out the box that quick biggrin...well maybe a few mods needed

scotty_d

6,795 posts

218 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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spongy said:
lol they are fast,my old jap machine was faster than my prescent car.....but i would much rather have my tvr in so many ways.You got to spend big bucks on em to get em this fast,but the tvr comes out the box that quick biggrin...well maybe a few mods needed
This ^

I did the whole impreza thing and i still think it of one of the fastest cars point to point out there for the roads same as all your rally reps pushing upwards of 320bhp.

But i would have a tiv any day of the week over one again.

swisstoni

22,704 posts

303 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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Now you know what the FQ stands for.

justyr

337 posts

236 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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Having had (at the same time) a Evo6 IMO it's a faster point to point car than my Tuscan, although nowhere near as classy. In the wet the Evo will be gone...

dvs_dave

9,040 posts

249 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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Secret to blowing the doors off a ricer is this.

Assuming he's behind you coming out of a roundabout and very eager to prove something he'll be whizzing round the roundabout and getting on the gas as early as possible. Now this sort of driving style doesn't suit a TVR so as you come out of the round about he'll be hard on the gas and up your chuff. You'll still be taking it relatively easy and making sure the car is in a straight line before getting on it. Whist you're doing this Mr Ricer turbo nutter will have backed off and gone off boost. It's at this point that you deploy maximum 2nd gear firepower right up to the red shift light and leave Mr Ricer for dead.

Works every time and shows them up so much they generally loose interest pretty sharpish. hehe

collingbroon

382 posts

215 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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dvs_dave said:
Secret to blowing the doors off a ricer is this.

Assuming he's behind you coming out of a roundabout and very eager to prove something he'll be whizzing round the roundabout and getting on the gas as early as possible. Now this sort of driving style doesn't suit a TVR so as you come out of the round about he'll be hard on the gas and up your chuff. You'll still be taking it relatively easy and making sure the car is in a straight line before getting on it. Whist you're doing this Mr Ricer turbo nutter will have backed off and gone off boost. It's at this point that you deploy maximum 2nd gear firepower right up to the red shift light and leave Mr Ricer for dead.

Works every time and shows them up so much they generally loose interest pretty sharpish. hehe
I like your style matethumbup

dbv8

8,675 posts

244 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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collingbroon said:
dvs_dave said:
Secret to blowing the doors off a ricer is this.

Assuming he's behind you coming out of a roundabout and very eager to prove something he'll be whizzing round the roundabout and getting on the gas as early as possible. Now this sort of driving style doesn't suit a TVR so as you come out of the round about he'll be hard on the gas and up your chuff. You'll still be taking it relatively easy and making sure the car is in a straight line before getting on it. Whist you're doing this Mr Ricer turbo nutter will have backed off and gone off boost. It's at this point that you deploy maximum 2nd gear firepower right up to the red shift light and leave Mr Ricer for dead.

Works every time and shows them up so much they generally loose interest pretty sharpish. hehe
I like your style matethumbup
Knowing your enemies weak points is invaluable
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blueg33

Original Poster:

45,248 posts

248 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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dvs_dave said:
Secret to blowing the doors off a ricer is this.

Assuming he's behind you coming out of a roundabout and very eager to prove something he'll be whizzing round the roundabout and getting on the gas as early as possible. Now this sort of driving style doesn't suit a TVR so as you come out of the round about he'll be hard on the gas and up your chuff. You'll still be taking it relatively easy and making sure the car is in a straight line before getting on it. Whist you're doing this Mr Ricer turbo nutter will have backed off and gone off boost. It's at this point that you deploy maximum 2nd gear firepower right up to the red shift light and leave Mr Ricer for dead.

Works every time and shows them up so much they generally loose interest pretty sharpish. hehe
Good ploy smile

Regrettably the roundabouts were too fast for Mr Ricer to come off boost, I should have slowed down more smile

Tasmin200

1,368 posts

211 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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swisstoni said:
Now you know what the FQ stands for.
Funny!

RedSpike66

2,342 posts

236 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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blueg33 said:
dvs_dave said:
Secret to blowing the doors off a ricer is this.

Assuming he's behind you coming out of a roundabout and very eager to prove something he'll be whizzing round the roundabout and getting on the gas as early as possible. Now this sort of driving style doesn't suit a TVR so as you come out of the round about he'll be hard on the gas and up your chuff. You'll still be taking it relatively easy and making sure the car is in a straight line before getting on it. Whist you're doing this Mr Ricer turbo nutter will have backed off and gone off boost. It's at this point that you deploy maximum 2nd gear firepower right up to the red shift light and leave Mr Ricer for dead.

Works every time and shows them up so much they generally loose interest pretty sharpish. hehe
Good ploy smile

Regrettably the roundabouts were too fast for Mr Ricer to come off boost, I should have slowed down more smile
So you should have been changing down through the gears to second, lots of pops and bangs to intimidate him, then as above, pedal to the metal once straight, using all the rev range...

blueg33

Original Poster:

45,248 posts

248 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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RedSpike66 said:
So you should have been changing down through the gears to second, lots of pops and bangs to intimidate him, then as above, pedal to the metal once straight, using all the rev range...
Thanks for the tips - now I need a rematch smile

HarryW

15,896 posts

293 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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blueg33 said:
RedSpike66 said:
So you should have been changing down through the gears to second, lots of pops and bangs to intimidate him, then as above, pedal to the metal once straight, using all the rev range...
Thanks for the tips - now I need a rematch smile
This time you will just wheel spin whilst he doesn't hehe I'd let it lie myself ......

stuthemong

2,517 posts

241 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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m3jappa

6,890 posts

242 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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I used to have an evo9 gt with around 410bhp. It had mild anti lag, launch control, proper clutch so you really could launch it. It was a really sorted car.

No question it was fast, down a B road you would lose a tuscan without even thinking about it. When you drive one you can see why people nick them for bank jobs hehe That said me and the oh have a clk 350 and i reckon i could drive that quicker down a b road than the tusc. B roads are fun but not suited to the stiff tuscan imo- that wont stop me though from enjoying them the most. In the tuscan you don't have to drive like a maniac to have fun, infact it would be stupid to as it would be so easy to get it wrong in one.

However they have downsides....

It feels like all the power is over by around 100mph. To me an m3 feels faster than my old evo after 100. I'm not sure if it was because it was so quick to 80 it just felt slow after that.

Around a track i am confident that my tuscan would be faster than the old evo. The tuscan has to be driven with commitment and very smoothly. I took it on track and was seriously mixing it with a v10 r8 and a gt2. The evo is all about low down power and grip. The tuscan has lots of grip believe it or not but only in the right conditions. The tuscan i think could be made to handle incredibly well, its just easier to sort a evo as theres so much knowledge out there- there just isn't that knowledge for tvr's imo.

The evo was IMPOSSIBLE to get sideways, granted if you lifted at 100mph you could but thats probably not a good idea.

The tuscan feels like your driving something special that requires respect, i felt the evo didn't.

I think a 500bhp evo would be significantly better than a 400bhp one (obviously). Theres also a lot about with the best part of 500bhp so maybe this fq360 wasn't standard? Take a look on the MLR and you will see very few evo's are standard.

I do miss the evo's flames though frown I used to find a dark road just to see that big flash in all your mirrors on every gearchange hehe

If i don't have random problems at my next service (which i shouldn't hopefully) i may get my manifolds wrapped because i need some fire biglaugh