Cerb to Tuscan?
Discussion
Seriously thinking about jumping from a Cerb to a Tuscan .... This is mainly due to Green Fly!!
I own a 2000 speed six so I'm familiar with the engines but not so the model range.
What is the difference between the Tuscan and the tuscanS ?
Which year would be the best to go for? ( I'm sure the answer will be the newer the better but I do have a budget and really want to know when the niggles were ironed out.
What are the problems that aggravate you with your pride and joy ( remember I have a Cerb and as much as I love it I can be driven insane with its faults!)
I just want to weigh up the pro's and con's before I take the leap?
Your input would be appreciated.
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I own a 2000 speed six so I'm familiar with the engines but not so the model range.
What is the difference between the Tuscan and the tuscanS ?
Which year would be the best to go for? ( I'm sure the answer will be the newer the better but I do have a budget and really want to know when the niggles were ironed out.
What are the problems that aggravate you with your pride and joy ( remember I have a Cerb and as much as I love it I can be driven insane with its faults!)
I just want to weigh up the pro's and con's before I take the leap?
Your input would be appreciated.
D
I went from a AJP 4.2 to a 4.3 Power Tuscan.
Cerb
-Better interior by miles. Tuscan interior is OK, Cerb is really something special and cosseting
-Better handling, less twitchy
-Classy
Tuscan
-ASBO
-I went for a crazy flip paint, IMO it's what makes the tuscan
-I like the S6, but then this is no change for you. Expect risks of slave seal, tuning, current draw, water leak etc.. problems, but nothing more than you're used to. I don't expect a tuscan will be more reliable in principle, so buy on condition.
-Roof off. With the roof off it's a really lovely place to be, best convertible I've owned/driven in terms of the cabin 'freeness' whilst being 'inside' still. Tough to describe but it's really very good.
-Very easy to drive less than "6-10th's".
I find the Tuscan much much easier to drive A-B. The cerb felt like a racecar all the time, the Tuscan feels like a normal car under 6 10ths, like a racecar 8 10ths, and like a uncontrollable dog at 9+ 10ths. That said, on a flat road I chuck the tuscan around far more than I used to my cerb, but if the road is bumpy it's a mission to keep in a lane sometimes at NSL speeds!
They are different cars, I love them both. I don't think the Tuscan is the better car, it's just different. Cerberas really are very very special cars. Roof off just flips the balance though
Cerb
-Better interior by miles. Tuscan interior is OK, Cerb is really something special and cosseting
-Better handling, less twitchy
-Classy
Tuscan
-ASBO
-I went for a crazy flip paint, IMO it's what makes the tuscan
-I like the S6, but then this is no change for you. Expect risks of slave seal, tuning, current draw, water leak etc.. problems, but nothing more than you're used to. I don't expect a tuscan will be more reliable in principle, so buy on condition.
-Roof off. With the roof off it's a really lovely place to be, best convertible I've owned/driven in terms of the cabin 'freeness' whilst being 'inside' still. Tough to describe but it's really very good.
-Very easy to drive less than "6-10th's".
I find the Tuscan much much easier to drive A-B. The cerb felt like a racecar all the time, the Tuscan feels like a normal car under 6 10ths, like a racecar 8 10ths, and like a uncontrollable dog at 9+ 10ths. That said, on a flat road I chuck the tuscan around far more than I used to my cerb, but if the road is bumpy it's a mission to keep in a lane sometimes at NSL speeds!
They are different cars, I love them both. I don't think the Tuscan is the better car, it's just different. Cerberas really are very very special cars. Roof off just flips the balance though
[quote=stuthemong]I went from a AJP 4.2 to a 4.3 Power Tuscan.
Fantastic reply but now I'm really torn! My Cerb is extremely clean and I'm now afraid that if I go for the Tuscan and regret it I may not find another Cerb as good as the one I've got.
It was your final paragraph that threw the spanner into the works!
I love the look of the Tuscan, do you know the difference between the Tuscan & the Tusun S
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Fantastic reply but now I'm really torn! My Cerb is extremely clean and I'm now afraid that if I go for the Tuscan and regret it I may not find another Cerb as good as the one I've got.
It was your final paragraph that threw the spanner into the works!
I love the look of the Tuscan, do you know the difference between the Tuscan & the Tusun S
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Edited by DJR 7 on Wednesday 20th June 21:54
DJR 7]tuthemong said:
I love the look of the Tuscan, do you know the difference between the Tuscan & the Tusun S
Main differences for the Mk1 (IIRC):Supposedly more powerful - 380bhp vs 360bhp for earlier Mk1s
CR gearbox, but not all S versions have it as wasn't available when early cars left factory and offered as a free retro fit
Bigger brake discs all round
Hydratrac diff (?)
'Uprated' springs and dampers
Front and rear spoilers with indicators in body rather than under roll bar hoop
Includes other items optional on std Tuscans, ie aircon, HIDs on main beam (I think), 18 inch spiders
I am sure there are variations from one car to another, but my first Tuscan S felt really quick. The one I have now does not feel as manic, maybe down to diff differences, but they both felt significantly quicker than my 4.2 Cerb. I love the Tuscans, but I think the Cerb is a nicer drive.
go to www.mytuscan.co.uk it will have most of the information you need about the niggles or the differences between each models. Personally, I stress personally, I find the standard bodywork looks much cleaner, especailly to the rear end. It is likes a Kylie's bum to me (sorry for lowering the tone) I just happened found an early Mk1 Red Rose, so I now have the best of both world -, the power, the bodywork, the CR box, diff, bigger brakes, air con etc etc...
As it was mentioned before, on a sunny day day with a roof off, it is a nice place to be. It feels a different car with the roof top on when the weather isn't so nice. Another big reason for me to choose the Tuscan would be it is the only hard top convertible TVR. Again personally I think the soft top does not look as nice as the hard top when the roof is up.
I just happened found an early Mk1 Red Rose, so I now have the best of both world -, the power, the bodywork, the CR box, diff, bigger brakes, air con etc etc...As it was mentioned before, on a sunny day day with a roof off, it is a nice place to be. It feels a different car with the roof top on when the weather isn't so nice. Another big reason for me to choose the Tuscan would be it is the only hard top convertible TVR. Again personally I think the soft top does not look as nice as the hard top when the roof is up.
Been a few posts on this one before, and i think you probably have the picture from whats already been said ¡V they are different cars.
The Cerb feels like a racecar from the time you get in to the time you get out ¡V i never got out of mine without feeling pretty knackered and in need of a drink to calm me down! I loved it though ¡V they are just so animalistic, the sound, the feel, the experience.
I had to sell and decided to try something different when i was fortunate enough to get another. I had always been put off the speed 6 cars cause of the speed 6 ƒº , but having decided an earlier car wasn¡¦t for me, i tried a T350 and a Tuscan. The Tuscan won it for me as it just felt really special whereas the 350 was a bit too ¡¥everyday¡¦. The roof comes off and the styling is like nothing else. I actually feel the Tuscan interior is pretty special ¡V though not quite as much as the cerb i will admit. The Tuscan is a really flexible car ¡V its happy commuting to work, out for a Sunday drive in the sun etc, but can also be driven like a complete hooligans car with all the noise, tyre squealing and performance you could ever ask for.
I had a 4.5 Cerby and actually, off the line, im sure the Tuscan is quicker. 100mph plus, i think the Cerby would pull away....but i don¡¦t know whether i think that¡¦s because of outright performance or its just a perception. My Tuscan isn¡¦t as comfy at higher speed as the Cerby was (though pretty good).
As for Tuscan S vs Tuscan...for me it wasn¡¦t really about which if these, more which version i could find with the best history. I actually prefer the look of the mk1 standard over the S, and i really think you would struggle to feel the power difference between a std car and an S on the road. I think the bigger difference is in a 3.71 diff ¡V and this could be retrofitted if you found the right car with the right history (you know about the sp6 engine already...). As for the rest of the bits ¡V brakes, yup, bigger, but have i ever wanted more on the road than the standard brakes can give, nope. Spoiler and splitter and HID lights as retrofittable (great word i just made up). Suspension ¡V i have upgraded mine anyway and i think its a priority job with any standard mk1!!
I guess what im trying to waffle on about is buy a mk1 on condition - whether or not its an S is a secondary (but nice to have) consideration, thats down to the individual really...
The Cerb feels like a racecar from the time you get in to the time you get out ¡V i never got out of mine without feeling pretty knackered and in need of a drink to calm me down! I loved it though ¡V they are just so animalistic, the sound, the feel, the experience.
I had to sell and decided to try something different when i was fortunate enough to get another. I had always been put off the speed 6 cars cause of the speed 6 ƒº , but having decided an earlier car wasn¡¦t for me, i tried a T350 and a Tuscan. The Tuscan won it for me as it just felt really special whereas the 350 was a bit too ¡¥everyday¡¦. The roof comes off and the styling is like nothing else. I actually feel the Tuscan interior is pretty special ¡V though not quite as much as the cerb i will admit. The Tuscan is a really flexible car ¡V its happy commuting to work, out for a Sunday drive in the sun etc, but can also be driven like a complete hooligans car with all the noise, tyre squealing and performance you could ever ask for.
I had a 4.5 Cerby and actually, off the line, im sure the Tuscan is quicker. 100mph plus, i think the Cerby would pull away....but i don¡¦t know whether i think that¡¦s because of outright performance or its just a perception. My Tuscan isn¡¦t as comfy at higher speed as the Cerby was (though pretty good).
As for Tuscan S vs Tuscan...for me it wasn¡¦t really about which if these, more which version i could find with the best history. I actually prefer the look of the mk1 standard over the S, and i really think you would struggle to feel the power difference between a std car and an S on the road. I think the bigger difference is in a 3.71 diff ¡V and this could be retrofitted if you found the right car with the right history (you know about the sp6 engine already...). As for the rest of the bits ¡V brakes, yup, bigger, but have i ever wanted more on the road than the standard brakes can give, nope. Spoiler and splitter and HID lights as retrofittable (great word i just made up). Suspension ¡V i have upgraded mine anyway and i think its a priority job with any standard mk1!!
I guess what im trying to waffle on about is buy a mk1 on condition - whether or not its an S is a secondary (but nice to have) consideration, thats down to the individual really...
The Mk1 S also had a bigger bore exhaust, different injectors and a different badge 
My std has the bigger brakes 322mm but some had the cerbs 330mm (one piece vs 2 piece), and so many changes I can't tell the difference between std and 's', there was also an s kit at one point which wasn't a complete s but a collection of nice bits. I think the S had a different boot carpet as well.
At 10 years old now most will have been changed, chopped, modified and adapted.
HTH
My std has the bigger brakes 322mm but some had the cerbs 330mm (one piece vs 2 piece), and so many changes I can't tell the difference between std and 's', there was also an s kit at one point which wasn't a complete s but a collection of nice bits. I think the S had a different boot carpet as well.
At 10 years old now most will have been changed, chopped, modified and adapted.
HTH
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