What size of spacers: 3mm to ...
What size of spacers: 3mm to ...
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Filos Hippos

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479 posts

256 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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I know people seem to fit 3mm spacers to their Tuscans but what would be the thickest one can fit whilst still retaining the original bolts.

(And leaving enough thread left to keep things safe!cop)

glow worm

7,084 posts

251 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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I tried them on my convertible and made no difference.I've taken them off now. Mk1 owners report an improvement.
I much prefer my car with 225 tyres on the front rather than the 255s as it came from the factory. The suspension designer (Ben Lang) told me it was designed for 225s not fat 255s (only supplied for appearance). Certainly a lot less tramlining.

Edited by glow worm on Monday 19th November 10:10

Filos Hippos

Original Poster:

479 posts

256 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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I must admit that I would not only fit them to cure twitchiness but also to give a bit more "stance"!paperbaggetmecoat

JimmyZZ

239 posts

246 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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Using 225 tyres in the front is one good idea PLUS try Dunlops.
It made a huge difference on mine as far as tramlining is concerned.
The spacers in my opinion are placebos

tuscanturner

387 posts

186 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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I put the spacers on my 2s and the tram lining did improve a little but then if I put 225 tyres on (kept the spacers) and that transformed the car, little or no tramlingkng now and famtastic on the track, although I'm not convinced about the spacers now being required but having paid for th I feel I need to use them...

dvs_dave

9,040 posts

249 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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Tuscan's have varying suspension geometries depending on age. No one knows exactly what and when, so try it and see what difference it makes. The 3mm ones made a very noticeable improvement on my Mk1 S, and are most definitely not a placebo.

robsco

7,875 posts

200 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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Interesting that there are people here claiming to prefer 225s over 255s? I read on another thread from rather a few posters to try 255s on the front as the 225s exacerbate tramlining. Mine has the 3mm spacers, and it feels marginally better with them, but it is still twitchy to the stage that I'm nervous of the car. The geo is setup, running on GGPs, with good tyres running at the correct pressures, and I'm still struggling.

tuscanturner

387 posts

186 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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Another benefit of the 225,s is I so far have had no aqua planing like I had with the 255,s

tuscanturner

387 posts

186 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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Another benefit of the 225,s is I so far have had no aqua planing like I had with the 255,s

tuscanturner

387 posts

186 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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Another benefit of the 225,s is I so far have had no aqua planing like I had with the 255,s

Basil Brush

5,540 posts

287 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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robsco said:
Interesting that there are people here claiming to prefer 225s over 255s? I read on another thread from rather a few posters to try 255s on the front as the 225s exacerbate tramlining. Mine has the 3mm spacers, and it feels marginally better with them, but it is still twitchy to the stage that I'm nervous of the car. The geo is setup, running on GGPs, with good tyres running at the correct pressures, and I'm still struggling.
I recommend getting the rack height set properly to get rid of the bump steer.

robsco

7,875 posts

200 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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Cheers BB, this is one of the options I've discussed with Track V Road.

glow worm

7,084 posts

251 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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Funny how what goes around comes around ...Try Heath & Paul @ Xworks

robsco

7,875 posts

200 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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glow worm said:
Funny how what goes around comes around ...
Sorry, you've lost me?

glow worm

7,084 posts

251 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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Sorry... Just I got a lot of stick from people 2 years ago when I raised my steering rack smile .

robsco

7,875 posts

200 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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Aah, I see, makes sense now. smile

I'd considered the prospect of a Tuscan 2 rack if it fit, but I've since thought it would be sacrilege to replace that super quick Mk1 rack.

Basil Brush

5,540 posts

287 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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glow worm said:
Sorry... Just I got a lot of stick from people 2 years ago when I raised my steering rack smile .
I messed about with my early set up for a while but ended up swapping it to the later setup with 8mm rack spacers.

dvs_dave

9,040 posts

249 months

Wednesday 21st November 2012
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robsco said:
Interesting that there are people here claiming to prefer 225s over 255s? I read on another thread from rather a few posters to try 255s on the front as the 225s exacerbate tramlining. Mine has the 3mm spacers, and it feels marginally better with them, but it is still twitchy to the stage that I'm nervous of the car. The geo is setup, running on GGPs, with good tyres running at the correct pressures, and I'm still struggling.
It's not the width that matters so much rather the profile height that makes the difference, and is a key often overlooked component of the suspension geometry.

A lot of folk run 225/35's on the front which are just too low profile and exaggerate the twitchiness by throwing off the geometry. Change to 255/35's which have a bit more sidewall height so bringing the geometry back in line, and they feel a lot better, hence the recommendations for 255's.

However the optimum size for the front is 235/40, with 255/35 and 225/40's a close second as they have very similar profile heights.

glow worm

7,084 posts

251 months

Wednesday 21st November 2012
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I should have said 225/40s , also keeps the rolling radius the same... I also think different makes/specs have a great effect on tyre wall stiffness... Mine are Goodyear Eagle F1s (Chinese variety, not German).
Who established this "optimum" dave ? smile

dvs_dave

9,040 posts

249 months

Wednesday 21st November 2012
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glow worm said:
I should have said 225/40s , also keeps the rolling radius the same... I also think different makes/specs have a great effect on tyre wall stiffness... Mine are Goodyear Eagle F1s (Chinese variety, not German).
Who established this "optimum" dave ? smile
Most TVR specialists I've spoken to over the years have recommended these sizes, and the bloke who put the 3mm spacers on the market I also seem to remember saying that 235/40's were the best size for the front axle, with the other sizes mentioned a good fit also.