Boot won't open

Boot won't open

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Heather1993

Original Poster:

2 posts

71 months

Saturday 1st June 2019
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I have just come to try and open the boot and it won't open, so I was hoping someone could pm me and tell me the manual override! I've got a 2000 Tuscan MK1.

8ball_Rob

221 posts

116 months

Saturday 1st June 2019
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Tried to PM you, but it says the recipient's account does not permit emails. Drop me an email (rob.cork -at- cantab.net) and I can send you the details.

aberkeley

2 posts

109 months

Saturday 1st June 2019
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It must be the day for it. Just got mine to Kwik fit for an mot and boot refuses to open (no noise from the solenoid at all). Can anyone dm me or email me how to get in. Don’t really want to leave it at kwik fit over night as without opening it will fail the MOT!

Cheers

Anthony

glow worm

6,362 posts

240 months

Saturday 1st June 2019
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Not too keen on these 1 post .. "How do I get in " posters beware !!! MODS !!!
My advice is speak to your TVR dealer or Service guy , and if you service it yourself and can't get into the boot , you shouldn't be servicing it yourself smile .

MOT failure for a non opening boot ??? That's a new one on me smile

Edited by glow worm on Saturday 1st June 18:18

ianwayne

6,892 posts

281 months

Saturday 1st June 2019
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aberkeley said:
It must be the day for it. Just got mine to Kwik fit for an mot and boot refuses to open (no noise from the solenoid at all). Can anyone dm me or email me how to get in. Don’t really want to leave it at kwik fit over night as without opening it will fail the MOT!

Cheers

Anthony
Even if a car fails its MoT, you can drive it away. I don't see why they would need access to the boot either (?)

8ball_Rob

221 posts

116 months

Saturday 1st June 2019
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glow worm said:
Not too keen on these 1 post .. "How do I get in " posters beware !!! MODS !!!
My advice is speak to your TVR dealer or Service guy , and if you service it yourself and can't get into the boot , you shouldn't be servicing it yourself smile .

MOT failure for a non opening boot ??? That's a new one on me smile

Edited by glow worm on Saturday 1st June 18:18
That was initially my thought, but looking at the MOT inspection checklist, both 'boot lid' and 'fuel tank cap' are listed under the exterior checks. Since you need to open the boot to gain access to the full tank cap on a Tuscan, I imagine that would be a fail on both counts. Also, if either of those is counted as a dangerous fault (perhaps the fuel tank cap?) then under the new MOT rules you won't be allowed to drive it away.

aberkeley

2 posts

109 months

Saturday 1st June 2019
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Thanks rob yep that’s exactly the challenge, can’t access the fuel cap, so can’t complete the checks and therefore a fail. As the MOT is expired it can only be driven to the centre and we can’t drive away. Thanks for the guidance on email. Will be back to kwik fit in the morning to see if we can drive away successfully with a new MOT.

ianwayne

6,892 posts

281 months

Saturday 1st June 2019
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I stand corrected on the boot, I'd forgotten about checking the fuel cap. frown

If a car is insured, you can drive it for a pre-booked test, and to a 'place of repair' if it fails. i.e. home again.

From autonetinsurance:

The law states each vehicle over three years old needs to have a valid MOT certificate. If not, your insurance could be invalid. If you have failed your MOT test on the same day as the MOT is due to expire then there are only two instances that you can drive your vehicle:

You may take your vehicle to a test station for an MOT test booked in advance
You may take your vehicle to get it repaired after it has failed its MOT test.

In any other circumstances, driving the vehicle would be breaking the law.


Edited by ianwayne on Saturday 1st June 22:29

8ball_Rob

221 posts

116 months

Saturday 1st June 2019
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ianwayne said:
I stand corrected on the boot, I'd forgotten about checking the fuel cap. frown

If a car is insured, you can drive it for a pre-booked test, and to a 'place of repair' if it fails. i.e. home again.

From autonetinsurance:

The law states each vehicle over three years old needs to have a valid MOT certificate. If not, your insurance could be invalid. If you have failed your MOT test on the same day as the MOT is due to expire then there are only two instances that you can drive your vehicle:

You may take your vehicle to a test station for an MOT test booked in advance
You may take your vehicle to get it repaired after it has failed its MOT test.

In any other circumstances, driving the vehicle would be breaking the law.


Edited by ianwayne on Saturday 1st June 22:29
I'm not sure that tells the whole story though - the new MOT rules introduced the idea of a 'dangerous' fault, which as I understand it means that you will not be allowed to drive the vehicle away until the fault has been repaired, regardless of whether the car still has a valid MOT certificate:

https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/after-the-test#d...

tuscan_raider

310 posts

160 months

Sunday 2nd June 2019
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8ball_Rob said:
….. you will not be allowed to drive the vehicle away until the fault has been repaired, regardless of whether the car still has a valid MOT certificate:

https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/after-the-test#d...
By who?

Mine just failed emissions ("Dangerous Fault") and I drove it to the TVR specialist and then back to the MOT garage.

MOT people cannot fix it "sorry mate, we don't see many of these" - and TVR specialist cant do the retest

ianwayne

6,892 posts

281 months

Sunday 2nd June 2019
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8ball_Rob said:
I'm not sure that tells the whole story though - the new MOT rules introduced the idea of a 'dangerous' fault, which as I understand it means that you will not be allowed to drive the vehicle away until the fault has been repaired, regardless of whether the car still has a valid MOT certificate:

https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/after-the-test#d...
No, it says "You can be fined up to £2,500, be banned from driving and get 3 penalty points for driving a vehicle that has failed its MOT because of a ‘dangerous’ problem."

"Can" being the word, you would have to be stopped on the road whilst driving such a car. It's an issue of roadworthiness.

No MoT test place is going to physically prevent you from driving a car away. They can suggest you shouldn't of course.

For the OP, not getting the boot open is not going to be a dangerous fault although a severely leaking petrol tank would be but you'd see that from below!

Personally I can't see how an emissions failure is any way dangerous (?!), and uncheckable at the roadside anyway except with special equipment. And if anybody drives a car with totally bald tyres, no working indicators or brakes or anything that is obviously dangerous is taking the p@@s and actually would deserve to get done.

blueg33

40,267 posts

237 months

Sunday 2nd June 2019
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Heather1993 said:
I have just come to try and open the boot and it won't open, so I was hoping someone could pm me and tell me the manual override! I've got a 2000 Tuscan MK1.
Seems like a suspicious first post to me.



8ball_Rob

221 posts

116 months

Tuesday 4th June 2019
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ianwayne said:
No, it says "You can be fined up to £2,500, be banned from driving and get 3 penalty points for driving a vehicle that has failed its MOT because of a ‘dangerous’ problem."

"Can" being the word, you would have to be stopped on the road whilst driving such a car. It's an issue of roadworthiness.

No MoT test place is going to physically prevent you from driving a car away. They can suggest you shouldn't of course.

For the OP, not getting the boot open is not going to be a dangerous fault although a severely leaking petrol tank would be but you'd see that from below!

Personally I can't see how an emissions failure is any way dangerous (?!), and uncheckable at the roadside anyway except with special equipment. And if anybody drives a car with totally bald tyres, no working indicators or brakes or anything that is obviously dangerous is taking the p@@s and actually would deserve to get done.
Fair point, I hadn't appreciated that MOT stations weren't actually obliged (or even allowed) to prevent customers from driving cars away that had failed due to so-called 'dangerous' faults. Of course that doesn't stop it being illegal - a case of 'you pays your money and you takes your choice', I guess. A bit more info here:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/mot-cha...

Heather1993

Original Poster:

2 posts

71 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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I appreciate that it may seem a bit odd to suddenly post about wanting to get into the boot of our car, but we couldn't call any tvr service centres as it was the weekend and the ones we know of were closed! Luckily we figured it out in the end, does anyone have any suggestions as to what the problem might have been? When we were pressing the button to open it, there was no noise at all, like it wasn't even attempting to open. We obviously would like to avoid a repeat of the issue!

JRA460

36 posts

140 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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I ended up lubricating the solenoid cables to the lock and replaced the solenoid.
I removed the lock and then accessed the cables from the lock to the solenoid (through the round access plate on the LHS looking in) and renewed the solenoid (ebay Ford Puma) There are 2 fixing screws under the rear boot panel carpet, that sorted my problem.