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The Sagaris is a lovely looking beast, but the open top facility on the Tuscan seals it for me.... In my opinion the mk 1 Tuscan front end looks better than the Mk2.
With regards to just about everything else there's likely little to seperate the 3 cars, performance, reliability, resale etc......on whats better or best. It'll come down to personnal opinion every time I guess.
With regards to just about everything else there's likely little to seperate the 3 cars, performance, reliability, resale etc......on whats better or best. It'll come down to personnal opinion every time I guess.
yzf1070 said:
The Sagaris is a lovely looking beast, but the open top facility on the Tuscan seals it for me.... In my opinion the mk 1 Tuscan front end looks better than the Mk2.
With regards to just about everything else there's likely little to seperate the 3 cars, performance, reliability, resale etc......on whats better or best. It'll come down to personnal opinion every time I guess.
If you drive a MK2 I think you will find it more driveable and "rounded" than a MK1, on account of the improved suspension and steering. The looks are subjective. I prefered the back end of my Mk1 to my MK2 but I prefer the front of the MK2.
I have no doubt whatsoever though that the MK2 is improved and therefore better.
>> Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 6th June 15:50
unrepentant said:
The Sagaris is a lovely looking beast, but the open top facility on the Tuscan seals it for me.... In my opinion the mk 1 Tuscan front end looks better than the Mk2.
With regards to just about everything else there's likely little to seperate the 3 cars, performance, reliability, resale etc......on whats better or best. It'll come down to personnal opinion every time I guess.
If you drive a MK2 I think you will find it more driveable and "rounded" than a MK1, on account of the improved suspension and steering. The looks are subjective. I prefered the back end of my Mk1 to my MK2 but I prefer the front of the MK2.
I have no doubt whatsoever though that the MK2 is improved and therefore better.
>> Edited by unrepentant on Monday 6th June 15:50
Mr U
Your possibly quite right with the suspension... tho I suspect a decent set of Nitrons makes all the difference (Im about to find out about that). With regard to the steering....I like the go kart response, certainly makes it exciting and keeps you focused. Untill I get a chance to drive a Mk2 I suppose I will be non the wiser. However, on the looks side...well for me the blended in lights takes away some of the aggressive looks from the mk2 Tusc.
Mk1 Tuscan is TVR's best work so far in my opinion.
There is nothing about it that I don't like or would have to 'put up with'.
Love the T350 (but not sure about its arse)
Tamora just doesnt work for me (too fussy - look at a Griff's simple fluid classic lines)
Sagaris again to fussy for me
There is nothing about it that I don't like or would have to 'put up with'.
Love the T350 (but not sure about its arse)
Tamora just doesnt work for me (too fussy - look at a Griff's simple fluid classic lines)
Sagaris again to fussy for me
los angeles said:
In my opinion the mk 1 Tuscan front end looks better than the Mk2. And the interior. And in the opinion of others, car stylists too. You can rework a work of art too far, from good to bloody awful. The best artists know when to stop.
You're talking about looks again LA, which is very subjective. As someone who has owned both cars I disagree with you about the interior. I think the MK2 interior in infinitely nicer than the MK1. But then I love the Cerbie interior and the T2 has overtones of that. If you look at a T1 and a T2 side by side I think the front of the T2 looks more up to date and sharper. As I have already said I think the rump of the T1 is prettier than the MK2 (I don't like the little spoiler). But that is all subjective and my personal opinion.
They do seem to be selling quite a lot of Mk2's, lots of them to Mk 1 owners, which would indicate that they have got most things right with regard to the styling.
As to the actual question, having owned both from new I am certain that the MK2 is an improvement and therefore "better" but others may differ.
I had two series one E-Type Jaguars, a 4.2 OTS and then an earlier 3.8 FHC with a Moss box. In my opinion the original, pure, 3.8 FHC was the better and prettier and indeed the best of all E-Types but others will argue that the 4.2 with the all syncro box was the best and the later V12 roadsters, which I hate, fetch the best money.
At the end of the day they are all brilliant, the rest is semantics.
Correct! If I say it's right, it's right! 
los angeles said:
The new Tuscan 2 I drove was a one ton hypodermic full of adrenaline. They say TVR have loosened the steering so a quarter turn on the wheel no longer means you're instantly going the other way - but it still felt pretty savage to me. Comparing the two would be like comparing a Velociraptor with Tyrannosaurus Rex. This is good. It means the essence of TVR is still there.
What's not so good is that Smolenski seems to have done nothing at all about quality, the single biggest bugbear in TVR's past. The windscreen wipers lifted off at 80 mph, the passenger window went all the way to the top, paused, and came down again. If this had been my car, bought and paid for with my own money, I may well have scawled "Nik is a feckwit" on the bonnet and sent it back to the TVR factory. I fear for TVR. They need to spend their money on electrics that work and wipers that stay put, rather than an endless array of pointless new models. The new range needs to be simplified. All the models are exactly the same car. I understand the slashes on the Sagaris have gone. So it's just another T350C then? Oh, and when the European Grim Reaper comes to harvest that 3.6 litre engine because it's killing too many trees, it needs to be replaced with a V8. Because straight sixes are for nancy boys. OK?
SMALL PRINT: No, not the opinion of LA, but the opinion of Jeremy Clarkson.
Yeah. But Clarkson's a bollox talking C
T. Everyone knows that LA, you've been away for too long mate. He thinks a Sag is a T350. 
The reviews of both Sag and T2 have been very good in general.
>> Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 8th June 12:31
los angeles said:
Don't drag me into it, Unrepentant. I'm just the messenger. Normally Clarkson gets revered when he pees let alone opines. It will be interesting to see what TVR fans think of him this time.
You brought him up to help with your argument so dont try and wriggle out of it now.
His newspaper column in the Sunday Times is almost unreadable these days, so full of what passes as Clarkson "wit" that there is hardly room for any thing about the cars. The man has turned into a caricature of himself. He cannot write anything sensible anymore therefore he fills his columns with peurile drivel in the hope that someone will take offence and draw attention to it.
The proper motoring jouros have given both Sag and T2 a fair crack and have been very positive.
Tuscan mk1 is still the best TVR I've ever owned despite the problems with both cars I had.
The Cerbera 4.5 has to be a close second though - it's interior is still gorgeous and original in every way.
Why oh why did they need to change the look of the exterior and interior of the Tuscan it's ruined it IMHO.
The sooner TVR get back to basics and put a reliable engine (V8) into their cars the sooner some us can come back and enjoy them
The Cerbera 4.5 has to be a close second though - it's interior is still gorgeous and original in every way.
Why oh why did they need to change the look of the exterior and interior of the Tuscan it's ruined it IMHO.
The sooner TVR get back to basics and put a reliable engine (V8) into their cars the sooner some us can come back and enjoy them
zumbruk said:
Yes and no, you are wrong about subjectivity.
Garbage. Beauty is, was and always will be in the eye of the beholder.
You're being a little bit unfair there Zambruk.
You fail to make allowances for the fact that the author is a pretentious t
t who has a much higher opinion of his own views than the rest of the world does. I always allow some leeway on the basis that pity is better than condemnation.unrepentant said:
los angeles said:
Yes and no, you are wrong about subjectivity.
Garbage. Beauty is, was and always will be in the eye of the beholder.
You're being a little bit unfair there Zambruk.
You fail to make allowances for the fact that the author is a pretentious t
Good point. I shall make allowances in future.
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