Exhaust coming apart
Exhaust coming apart
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lady topaz

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3,855 posts

277 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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I noticed yesterday that my lefthand exhaust has rotted through at the actual box seam, so the rear can was hanging on by a prayer.
The question is would this be covered under warranty?
The car is barely nine months old.
If there is a warranty, would my after market cans invalidate this even though they were dealer fitted. Also the split is at the box so I cant see how my cans would cause this.
Surely an exhaust should last more than 6,500 mls, 9 months!!!

Di

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

248 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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In my experience (not TVR) exhausts, brakes and tyres are classed as wear and tear items and not covered under warranty.

HOWEVER, if I was you, I would go to your dealer and show this. One would have thought that 'good will' and wanting to avoid adverse publicity would make them consider replacing the part or halfing the cost. Items like that SHOULD last longer than yours, which suggests an poor item to start with.

P~

alans

3,654 posts

279 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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It's a problem due to the fact that the rear box is 1mm stainless and all the vibration from the cans tranfers to the weld on the box stub. Your dealer will reweld the stub, I've done mine several times and got so fed up with doing it I removed the rear box completly.

Alan

lady topaz

Original Poster:

3,855 posts

277 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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Thanks guys, and sorry Alan but this is probably a really stupid question. If you have done away with the cans altogether, what purpose do they serve other than for aeshetic reasons? Are they simply a noise reduction fitment or do they alter pressure or flow?

Cheers
Di

alans

3,654 posts

279 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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lady topaz said:
Thanks guys, and sorry Alan but this is probably a really stupid question. If you have done away with the cans altogether, what purpose do they serve other than for aeshetic reasons? Are they simply a noise reduction fitment or do they alter pressure or flow?

Cheers
Di


I removed the boxes not the cans. They do reduce the noise, but have no wadding in them, they must cause the pressure waves to be "bounced" by 90 deg. To be honest mine is now a little on the noisey side.
I may look at alternitives, unless somebody already makes replacements in a descent quality stainless as I would not waste money on the OEM ones.

Alan

Mr.t

390 posts

276 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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I would say you have a fair shout here for a warranty claim ?. Even Twit-Fit offer a 12 month warranty. If you're worried about you CCC's being a problem, swap the original's back on, if you haven't got them anymore, I'd be happy to loan you my standard cans until you get the problem sorted ?.

ehasler

8,576 posts

306 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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I had a similar problem last year - the weld on the little stub that the can bolts on to broke at the point it was attached to the silencer box. My dealer wasn't able to re-weld it, as the stub had fallen off on the way there, so they replaced the whole exhaust on that side under warranty.

The car was still fitted with CCC cans when they did the work, so that didn't cause any problems. In fact, my CCC cans are slightly lighter than the standard ones, so should actually cause less stress.

lady topaz

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3,855 posts

277 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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Mr.t said:
I would say you have a fair shout here for a warranty claim ?. Even Twit-Fit offer a 12 month warranty. If you're worried about you CCC's being a problem, swap the original's back on, if you haven't got them anymore, I'd be happy to loan you my standard cans until you get the problem sorted ?.


Many thanks Ken, thats very kind of you. I do still have my originals, but too late anyway as off she went on a low loader this morning, nice gesture though, much appreciated.
Di
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lady topaz

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3,855 posts

277 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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ehasler said:
I had a similar problem last year - the weld on the little stub that the can bolts on to broke at the point it was attached to the silencer box. My dealer wasn't able to re-weld it, as the stub had fallen off on the way there, so they replaced the whole exhaust on that side under warranty.

The car was still fitted with CCC cans when they did the work, so that didn't cause any problems. In fact, my CCC cans are slightly lighter than the standard ones, so should actually cause less stress.


Thanks Ed
Useful information which I may be able to use. Running my hand around the seal there did not appear to be any stub remaining.
Just have to see what they come up with.

Cheers
Di
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justinp1

13,357 posts

253 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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Although TVR or the dealer may class the brakes, exhaust et al as wear and tear items, they do need to last a respectable amount of time for them to be classed as 'Fit for the purpose intended'. The Sale of Goods Act outlines this in more detail.

If you work the principle through, although on a car some items are worn more than others through wear and tear, for example the brake pads. If on you new car your brake pads lasted 15,000 miles then fair enough they have done their job and lasted in the way they have designed. If they lasted 150 miles however, even though they are designed to wear, they are obviously not fit for the purpose or been set up right.

In the same way I dont thing the exhaust is designed to last 9 months or 6000 miles. I would put this to the dealer (who technically is responsible) and see how reasonable they are!