Tuscan Convertable in new EVO
Tuscan Convertable in new EVO
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chris watton

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22,547 posts

283 months

Friday 30th September 2005
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Looks good, havent had time to read it yet, but it says it has a 4 litre engine pushing out 365bhp!
Overall rating, 4 and a half stars out of 5!!

They did put it on their WRC dyno, and figures were;
Max - 345.88bhp @ 6800rpm
Max - 299LB FT @5300rpm

But they did say the reason for the low power output could be because the engine is new, and needs running in.

>> Edited by chris watton on Friday 30th September 09:47

TUS 373

5,050 posts

304 months

Friday 30th September 2005
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Hmmm - probably not going to do the engine a whole lot of good running it at 6800 rpm on a dyno, if it has not been run in fully yet.

chris watton

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Friday 30th September 2005
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TUS 373 said:
Hmmm - probably not going to do the engine a whole lot of good running it at 6800 rpm on a dyno, if it has not been run in fully yet.

Thats what I thought, I certainly would not buy that perticular car!

justinp1

13,357 posts

253 months

Friday 30th September 2005
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Surely TVR wouldn't supply a car for testing which had not been run in yet!? (Hopes)

I would have thought that for the press car they would have sent someone experienced out in it for a couple of weeks to rack up the miles and run it in.

Perhaps it was run in and done say 1500 miles and the last 5% would be there by the time it got to 6000?

bjwoods

5,018 posts

307 months

Friday 30th September 2005
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It's probably technically RUN in... But most high performance engines seem to need several thousand miles on them to feel really loosened up...

My griff 500 felt slower than my old 4.3 when i first bought it, but after several thousand miles. wow

B

anonymous-user

77 months

Friday 30th September 2005
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SP6 isn't fully run in until the 6k service when it goes onto the fully synthetic oil.

chris watton

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283 months

Friday 30th September 2005
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It does say (EVO), [quote], On the rollers at WRC, the Tuscan didn't make 365bhp. The acyal figures were 346bhp at 6800rpm and 299lb ft of torque at 5300rpm. On the face of it disappointing. But to be honest, the Tuscan feels quite potent enough.
The bottom line is that the Tuscan Covertible is thrillingly fast, gloriously vocal, engaging and rewarding at a moderate pace and a challenge to drive hard. And just like the Griffith and Chimaera of a decade ago, it's handsome and versatile.
Sounds like a winning formula to me'[/quote]

basil brush

5,521 posts

286 months

Friday 30th September 2005
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Do the non S model verts not have the 3.6 350bhp engine then? I guess knowing TVR that would be too straight forward.

anonymous-user

77 months

Friday 30th September 2005
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basil brush said:
Do the non S model verts not have the 3.6 350bhp engine then? I guess knowing TVR that would be too straight forward.


When I was in the factory a couple of months back all the Demos were on the line. Most, if not all, had 4.0 engines fitted.

garyf

975 posts

276 months

Friday 30th September 2005
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I heard a rumour during the week that TVR were about to refigure their Speed Six quoted power outputs - 4.0l powerplant (currently Sagaris quoted as 400/406 bhp) to be updated to 385ish bhp. Only a rumour, but from someone who may know. Could be BS.

Gary.

W333

417 posts

246 months

Friday 30th September 2005
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Sounds like more good press for TVR though - I must admit that EVO haven't really given a bad review to any of the new TVRs, so something good must be happening.

chris watton

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Friday 30th September 2005
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garyf said:
I heard a rumour during the week that TVR were about to refigure their Speed Six quoted power outputs - 4.0l powerplant (currently Sagaris quoted as 400/406 bhp) to be updated to 385ish bhp. Only a rumour, but from someone who may know. Could be BS.

Gary.


It also states something similar in the review in EVO, '
EVO said:
Another change, but one that has yet to officially filter down to the brochures, is what TVR describes as a 'more realistic approach' to quoted power figures. The stated output of the 3996cc straight six in this car's 'softer' state of tune is 365bhp.....

anonymous-user

77 months

Friday 30th September 2005
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When a standard 4.0 has been tested on a rolling road it has returned at least the 360 bhp quoted IIRC. (There was one in a Sprint a while back).

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anonymous-user

77 months

Saturday 1st October 2005
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Having read the article last night I am confused as to which car EVO actually tested and which one they think they tested.

The price and BHP figures they quote (£40k plus extras and 365 BHP) seem to equate to a standard 4.0 Tuscan but the performance figures they use are clearly those of a Tuscan S.

Positive review though.

chris watton

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Saturday 1st October 2005
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unrepentant said:
Having read the article last night I am confused as to which car EVO actually tested and which one they think they tested.

The price and BHP figures they quote (£40k plus extras and 365 BHP) seem to equate to a standard 4.0 Tuscan but the performance figures they use are clearly those of a Tuscan S.

Positive review though.


Yeah, I was confused as to the engine and figures! I just assumed TVR have been 're-tweaking' the engunes again, as that's the first time I've seen an official figure of 365bhp, and like you say, is that a standard 4 litre or the tweaked 'S' version!

christiaan

153 posts

252 months

Saturday 1st October 2005
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I heard this morning from a reliable source that TVR have dropped the 3.6l engine. They now only produce a 4.0l SP6... The standard "S spec" engine putting out 405-406 BHP (red block) and a de-tuned variant which now replaces the 3.6l putting out circa 365 BHP (blue block) as mentioned in the article.

basil brush

5,521 posts

286 months

Saturday 1st October 2005
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So full circle then.

chris watton

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Saturday 1st October 2005
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Strange, isn't it, how things seemingly turn on a sixpence, late last year I was reading in various sources that is was the unmolested 4 litre unit that was gonna get scrapped (To me, that made sense, as most engines with probs have been 4 litre versions), and replaced by the 3.6, as in the new Tuscan 2 vanilla versions, and the souped up S version of the 4 litre was to go in the higher powered varients, like the Tuscan S and Sagaris!

Lee02

389 posts

274 months

Saturday 1st October 2005
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I have just come back from dealer and all new tuscans now have 4.0l engine. they are only using the 3.6l in the tamora and T350.
365bhp sound about right had mine on a rolling road earlier this year and got 360 bhp

TUS 373

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304 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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This is getting confusing!

So, ALL Tuscan 2 cars now have either a 4.0 or a hotter version in the S model?

Are the standard (I use the term loosely!) cars that have already gone out been 4.0 then or did some have the 3.6?

Could this be another cost control measure at the factory to standardise more of the parts? That was my first thought. But, if they are continuing with the 3.6 for Tamora/T350 - that's not going to be the case?

Hell, this is getting confusing now. What engine/s does the Saggy run then? And if we add those cars that have claimed to be Red Rosed - what's that then. A 4 instead of a 3.6 in a T350 - or a Tuscan S engine in a T350.

My brain cannot cope with TVRs marketing anymore. Its more out of control than a Tuscan on a diesel slick!