Tus S v's 500 bhp MR2
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A friend of mine is having his MR2 turbo heavly modified and boasting (not proven) a massive 500 bhp, offering to race for log books i laughed an said from the lights £200, i remember thinking thats the quickest £££'s ill ever make quite literaly.
But after my head started ticking theres a small dout in my mind, i no there only a 2.0 but with a hundred or so more horses an the massess of traction in 1st and 2nd i always lose in the tiv could this be possible, prob only up to 60 70 because he knows he'd be eaten onwards.
Im i being
and embarrassing the name of Tusc
thoughts from the wiser ones
But after my head started ticking theres a small dout in my mind, i no there only a 2.0 but with a hundred or so more horses an the massess of traction in 1st and 2nd i always lose in the tiv could this be possible, prob only up to 60 70 because he knows he'd be eaten onwards.
Im i being
and embarrassing the name of Tusc thoughts from the wiser ones
I'm sorry guys, but owning both a 4.2 Cerb and a rev 3 mr2 turbo running 17psi, a 500hp mr2 would be monumentally fast, faster than any standard TVR, assuming the response from the turbo is not too laggy. Think of it as a slightly heavier Noble M400 with another 100hp to boot!!! There are some modified mr2 turbo 1/4 mile times on www.imoc.co.uk - a number of which are mid 11s with just under 400hp...... I think this is the reason why TVRs could never be competitive in the TOTB as the modified turbos are just too powerful..
I agree with Longbow, you're toast .. do the maths .. he's a good 120bhp up on you for a similar all-up weight (his might be slightly heavier, but look where the weight is!) .. it'll eat you alive and spit you out.
Don't even try racing over a bumpy back road .. the MR2 is a lovely supple back road blaster aswell.
Turn this one down unless you want to be red faced in front of all his and your mates
Don't even try racing over a bumpy back road .. the MR2 is a lovely supple back road blaster aswell.
Turn this one down unless you want to be red faced in front of all his and your mates
How good is he as gear changes? What about getting off the line quickly? With a laggy big turbo it is very easy to get bogged down and then it's like waiting til Christmas 2008 before the power comes in (been there, done that, pretended I wasn't racing at all 
). By then you'd be parked up and eating the turkey.
As mentioned above, you're best off going to Santa Pod or something (maybe get a timing system and test 0-60s).
-D
PS it's spelt "know".
>> Edited by shadowninja on Monday 20th March 11:38
). By then you'd be parked up and eating the turkey. As mentioned above, you're best off going to Santa Pod or something (maybe get a timing system and test 0-60s).
-D
PS it's spelt "know".
>> Edited by shadowninja on Monday 20th March 11:38
To keep this fair, why don't you strap a ruddy great supercharger to your Tuscan, and give it the same mods that equate to what the MR2 has had, and then have the drag race? trackcar said:
Yeah, all that expense would be worth it for winning 200 pounds and anyway that wasn't the race offered ..
i guess the guy wants to prove you can take a very reliable very well engineered toyota and spank a budget supercar. And I agree with him
But I never see the point, you could mod a 1986 Lada Riva to beat a supercar, if you were that way inclined!
W333 said:
At the end of the day it is just a Toyota though
True, they look powder puff and are ultra reliable . . . But what do you want? A looker (the S), a dragricer (the MR2) or a gorgeous car (the S) . . . turboed MR2 appeals though, just as any Fast'nFurious thingy (racy S2000 for me). Will a 500 hp Toyota stay in control?
As I said guys, I own both said cars so can be truely impartial here, and while I am a huge TVR Nut, I also have a very deep respect for the imports. You really shouldn't knock them if you haven't tried them. Yes the mr2 turbo is common, outdated and a bit of a poor looker next to any modern TVR..... but the engineering is true pedigree. Mind you the same must be said for the Supra TT, Skyline, NSX, RX-7 etc etc etc. And the japanese aftermarket tuning industry is second to none, offering owners the ability to tailor their cars performance to their requirements. Come on, a Norris Designs EVO with over 700hp!!! 1000hp Skylines and Supras.... The late TVRs are undoubtedly beautiful, rare and characterful cars but their potential is quite limited due to their relatively fragile NA engines, so they are not necessarily the quickest cars on British roads. If you want to see how your's goes against a 'relatively' standard one, I could bring mine to the Pod on the 8th if you like.............................
Cheers for all the feed back guys, tell u the truth i thought i'd get a good shouting at for that one but as a few of u said it could get messy for me and being quite well known round here as well as the other guy believe me i would never here the last of it 
Bout nine ten years ago we did used to street race a bit an i no he's a good driver, dont think he's getting the car back for a while but i'll be sure not to big me chest up when i see him next. Soon as anything happens i'll report, going to try and hold on till it warms up a bit
Cheers Mark
Bout nine ten years ago we did used to street race a bit an i no he's a good driver, dont think he's getting the car back for a while but i'll be sure not to big me chest up when i see him next. Soon as anything happens i'll report, going to try and hold on till it warms up a bit
Cheers Mark
Is that your Tuscan on your profile(sorry if that's a daft q.)but if it is it doesn't look like an S to me, unless it's had later mod's without the aero-add on's.
For what it's worth Tuscan look's quicker standing still than the mr2 at full pelt,personally I really don't like the modded Jap stuff, I couldn't give a monkey's how quick they are given their awful looks and despicable interiors they need some saving grace. Why are we so 'sheeplike'in following the state's? Ilford on a saturday night(please don't unless you have to) looks like a cheap mock up of the set of 'The Fistin furious', during the day you cannot get around east london for the number of SUV's(stateside fashion victims yet again)with spinners!! for fuc...
Im going to stop there..
>> Edited by singh on Tuesday 21st March 13:59
For what it's worth Tuscan look's quicker standing still than the mr2 at full pelt,personally I really don't like the modded Jap stuff, I couldn't give a monkey's how quick they are given their awful looks and despicable interiors they need some saving grace. Why are we so 'sheeplike'in following the state's? Ilford on a saturday night(please don't unless you have to) looks like a cheap mock up of the set of 'The Fistin furious', during the day you cannot get around east london for the number of SUV's(stateside fashion victims yet again)with spinners!! for fuc...
Im going to stop there.. >> Edited by singh on Tuesday 21st March 13:59
singh said:
Is that your Tuscan on your profile(sorry if that's a daft q.)but if it is it doesn't look like an S to me, unless it's had later mod's without the aero-add on's.
For what it's worth Tuscan look's quicker standing still than the mr2 at full pelt,personally I really don't like the modded Jap stuff, I couldn't give a monkey's how quick they are given their awful looks and despicable interiors they need some saving grace. Why are we so 'sheeplike'in following the state's? Ilford on a saturday night(please don't unless you have to) looks like a cheap mock up of the set of 'The Fistin furious', during the day you cannot get around east london for the number of SUV's(stateside fashion victims yet again)with spinners!! for fuc...
>> Edited by singh on Tuesday 21st March 13:59
No your right its the 4.0 model, didnt think there was any difference in power but then again im new to TVR, any one got a spare moment to the idiots guide via ~ 4.0 and S in speed.
As far as i remember firstly there was the Tuscan std4.0 with 360 bhp option being offered at the same time was the red rose package which upped power to 380 and I think uprated brakes. Then came the visually different S with front splitter rear spoiler and changed rear light's this was said to produce 390bhp which was superseded by the later S which packed 400horses both these cars had uprated exhaust, brakes and some earlier cars had the CR box which then became standard kit in the later S cars (so some early S cars have it some dont) this box and the increased power saw the S hit 60 in 1st and top the ton in 2nd. As with a lot of high performance cars a 30-40 hp difference may not be so noticeable but having been a passenger in a S the difference between these cars and the std 4.0 is very noticeable indeed, the S is a monster.
You may recall a clip on Top Gear when they were trying to test the urban myth that you can drive past a scamera without it flashing if your going quick enough.1st car they tried was a Civic type R/didnt manage it they then brought out a SL 55 AMG that they described as a really quick car/this didnt manage it either they then turned to the Tuscan S which managed to top the AMG speed by about 20-25mph over the same distance and those 55's are bloody quick, which if memory serves resulted in the scamera not flashing.
link:www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=107&i=7622
>> Edited by singh on Tuesday 21st March 17:09
You may recall a clip on Top Gear when they were trying to test the urban myth that you can drive past a scamera without it flashing if your going quick enough.1st car they tried was a Civic type R/didnt manage it they then brought out a SL 55 AMG that they described as a really quick car/this didnt manage it either they then turned to the Tuscan S which managed to top the AMG speed by about 20-25mph over the same distance and those 55's are bloody quick, which if memory serves resulted in the scamera not flashing.
link:www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=107&i=7622
>> Edited by singh on Tuesday 21st March 17:09
MarkoTVR said:
I think you're looking at about 4.3 0-60 and 9.something for 0-100. I believe the faster times you've quoted, which are for the 'S' are down to the CR gearbox which gets you to the same speeds in one less gearchange.
MarkoTVR,
With rgds to my earlier jap modded comments
no offence
that is a fine looking engine bay on your profile
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