Is close ratio and hydratrak a worthy upgrade????
Is close ratio and hydratrak a worthy upgrade????
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demonseed

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18 posts

281 months

Wednesday 30th April 2003
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Hi guys, im new to this wonderfull forum so please be gentle with me.
Just ordered my 1st Tuscan, cant wait, but is close ratio and hydratrak gonna make it any better overall or have i blown my dough un neccessarily?



pies

13,116 posts

285 months

Wednesday 30th April 2003
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Sorry can't help just want to say hello

v8tvr

792 posts

282 months

Wednesday 30th April 2003
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Hi guys, im new to this wonderfull forum so please be gentle with me.
Just ordered my 1st Tuscan, cant wait, but is close ratio and hydratrak gonna make it any better overall or have i blown my dough un neccessarily?





I would also like to know the answer to that? Good Question

>> Edited by v8tvr on Wednesday 30th April 22:32

demonseed

Original Poster:

18 posts

281 months

Wednesday 30th April 2003
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Hi there, nice to meet yall, i have not gone for air con!!!! am i gonna roast my nuts on long journeys or will i be ok with the roof on?

trueblue

32 posts

285 months

Wednesday 30th April 2003
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I think you ought to go for the aircon, I've only had my Tuscan since January (so haven't had many warmer days yet) but... even then it does get quite hot inside with the roof on and no aircon. I tend to use the aircon most of the time when the roof isn't off (I believe it is also a significant negative on the car's second hand value if it hasn't got it).

No idea about close ratio box, but I did go for hydratrak purely for peace of mind (this is my first TVR and wasn't quite sure what to expect). I think it probably was worth it (and let's face it in the context of the total price it is not THAT expensive an option), unless I really push it the car still feels pretty stable on wet/slippery roads.

whitey

2,508 posts

313 months

Wednesday 30th April 2003
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Guess you have ordered an S ?? Nice one !!

Aircon = essential.

Close Ratio box should be standard with the S, if it's not an S then I guess you should test drive one with and one without. Obviously it will be quicker with the CR box.

Hydratrack, I would not bother, there has been many detailed explanations of the differences between it and a LSD over the years on here and egroups lists, I cannot explain it in detail, if someone who can does not reply then do a search. I think though a LSD will give you more progressive breakaway of the rear end, whereas Hydratrak will hang on longer but when it goes it is much more sudden.

So what's the full spec you have gone for ?

Cheers
Whitey

pies

13,116 posts

285 months

Wednesday 30th April 2003
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demonseed said: Hi there, nice to meet yall, i have not gone for air con!!!! am i gonna roast my nuts on long journeys or will i be ok with the roof on?



yep your going to roast

johnwilk

97 posts

313 months

Thursday 1st May 2003
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I have both aircon and hydratrak - the latter being more difficult to justify, however the car does seem to handle very well, certainly better than the one I test drove about three years ago which didn't have hydratrak, though suspension has changed significantly since then, so this might just be wishful thinking. The aircon is essential and, contrary to popular belief does work quite well.

Alf Essex

1,467 posts

290 months

Thursday 1st May 2003
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demonseed,

I have an 'S' and the close ratio gearbox & aircon are standard. If you get a normal Tuscan I suggest that you get the aircon as this would be key to any re-sale value.

As for hydratrak I did not bother on my 'S'. Luckily I was able to get advice from Michael Caine the factory driver for Le Mans as he is based at Castle TVR in Essex. He strongly advised not too, he felt as racing driver would, that it takes away the fun factor! His advice was get to learn how the car truly handles at speed as the only machine that can really tame a Tuscan is the person driving it - and thats much more fun! He felt that it takes away the feel of the car.

So saved my pennies for other TVR related activities

Alan.

tuscan_s

3,173 posts

302 months

Thursday 1st May 2003
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demonseed said: Hi there, nice to meet yall, i have not gone for air con!!!! am i gonna roast my nuts on long journeys or will i be ok with the roof on?


Get Air Con! Not only is it neccessary on long journeys but your car will not sell easily without it.

DoricMan

9 posts

286 months

Thursday 1st May 2003
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On the subject of C.R. gearbox, anyone know how many Tuscan S's have had the C.R. box fitted? I have had conflicting info from various sources

tuscanyes

17 posts

299 months

Thursday 1st May 2003
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C/R boxes are still not in production, as far a I am aware. A few cars have had them, but these are not the "final" version as TVR are still having longevity problems with them.

Had one on my old R/R though before it gave up at 7K miles. Bl#@dy brilliant. Been waiting 1 year, today in fact, for one on my S.....

bertie

8,569 posts

313 months

Thursday 1st May 2003
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tuscanyes said: C/R boxes are still not in production, as far a I am aware. A few cars have had them, but these are not the "final" version as TVR are still having longevity problems with them.

Had one on my old R/R though before it gave up at 7K miles. Bl#@dy brilliant. Been waiting 1 year, today in fact, for one on my S.....



Which is odd as the normal T-5 gearbox is amde by TTC Automotive, see www.ttcautomotive.com/English/products/T-5.asp

So different ratios shouldn't be much of an issue, in fact they do a selection of ratios anyway.

I suspect TVR are trying to make their own gearbox totaly to reduce costs and increase profits, hence the problems.

Alf Essex

1,467 posts

290 months

Thursday 1st May 2003
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Don't understand what the fuss is all about on the close ratio gearboxes. I asked Castle TVR to ensure that I had mine on my 'S' because I had read some threads on PH! The factory informed me that they had no problems now and mine has it. So surprised that these threads are still ongoing......!

Alan.

mcrimes

67 posts

283 months

Thursday 1st May 2003
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I know we haven't hit the summer yet, but I haven't been bothered by not having A/C yet.

When it gets too warm it just reminds me I've forgotten to take the roof off.

That said, I might be eating those words in the summer - time will tell I guess.

tuscan_s

3,173 posts

302 months

Thursday 1st May 2003
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I called TVR to confirm if I had a C/R gearbox in my S (Jul 2002).

No one was available BUT (Please sit down everyone)..

They called me back! I will know tomorrow!

DoricMan

9 posts

286 months

Friday 2nd May 2003
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Alf, the fuss is that when I bought my 'S' in March 02 the spec included the c/r box. It was only sometime later that I discovered that it had the standard box, TVR 'forgetting' to tell me this. I have, just in the last week, had the latest version of the c/r box fitted, apparently with new design gears to reduce likelihood of breakage and also to reduce noise (though it is still noisy in 1st on the overrun)I have been told that this is the first ever example of the the second generation 'enhanced' c/r box. My point is, how many 'S's are there with the standard non c/r box? BTW the work was done at Dreadnought in Callander, true TVR enthusiasts.

Alf Essex

1,467 posts

290 months

Friday 2nd May 2003
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Well having a 2003 car I have no idea what version of the C/R gearbox I have...all that I know is that I have one

Guess with any technology and with the cars the factory will improve these things over time...so have no idea whether I have a old or new version.

Alan.

andyvdg

1,537 posts

312 months

Friday 2nd May 2003
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Can you do 90 in 2nd gear - you can if it's a close ratio box ?

Cheers,

Andy.

tuscan_s

3,173 posts

302 months

Friday 2nd May 2003
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I'll check tonight, one my driveway of course