Tuscan Modifications
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shadey said:
not these days, m3, most ferraris etc are pushing 110 or 119 in some cases.And reliable which is always nice..
Look how much they cost and how much development went into them. The M3 engine is the closest thing to the TVR Speed 6 engine. How many of these have you heard of getting a lot more power out of the standard engine from simple mods without forced induction? Not many I can assure you. I've also heard numerous rumors that Ferrari are just as guilty as TVR are/were with their claimed power outputs.shadey said:
you've got to remember that a 1 litre bike will quite easily push 180bhp as standard and honda are now producing there engines along these lines for there cars.
Bike engines can't really be compared to car engines. They rev to 18000 rpm in some cases. Honda's S2000 engine is a slight exception at 120bhp/litre but that has to rev to 9000 rpm to do it, is quite thirsty and is completely gutless unless thrashed. It's still quite a compromised engine. dvs_dave said:
shadey said:
That does not sound like a lot of horses per ££££££, are you sure that is all he will get??
Getting more than the 100bhp/litre it's apparantly already pushing without forced induction will not be easy. Applies to any engine.Edited by shadey on Sunday 27th May 17:29
True, but they are more reliable and dont need servicing every 6000 miles and can last more than 20000 miles without a rebuild. The technology is better so is the quality of the end product. As for bike engines, its the same technology as a formula one car, just waiting for the everyday car to catch up. My wife likes the tuscan but you still cant beat the feeling of going past it on the back wheel. you have always got the power to weight ratio problem with a car which means you need to create alot more torque than a bike has too.
shadey said:
my thoughts exactly trackcar, well put
Shady, I've never met a bike that can beat me off the lights yet, a fella I know has a 1200cc BMW motor bike, he's always going on about it being sub 2 seconds to 60 and it being faster than my Tuscan, rubbish - even if it was sub 2 seconds to 60 you couldnt control it whilst trying. 
shapeshifter said:
trackcar said:
Decats and carbon box and remap has got to be the thick end of 2000 pounds surely? for 15-20hp? Let us know how you get on ..
I know what you mean, 2000 for 15 - 20 bhp does seem a little heavy, it aint ending there tho, I'm having a suspension upgrade aswell.
A bike will beat any car from the lights and will beat 99% of cars top end, 0-60 these days is not important, 0-100 is more relivant, and in the bike world, 0-150 is the proven ground. Problem is cars struggle to get there, and by time they have the bike has stopped. dont mean to be argumentitive but i have seen it from both sides. If you want to be silly about it a drag bike will do 0-100 in less than 1 second, no car does that??(i can see me getting in trouble here and i own a tuscan, be gentle)
shadey said:
If you want to be silly about it a drag bike will do 0-100 in less than 1 second, no car does that??(i can see me getting in trouble here and i own a tuscan, be gentle)
Ok then.....gently does it......DragSite said:
Putting all of this into perspective:
You are riding the average $250,000 Honda MotoGP bike.
Over a mile up the road, a Top Fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a quarter mile strip as you pass.
You have the advantage of a flying start.
You run the RC211V hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line and past the dragster at an honest 200 mph (293 ft/sec) (322 km/h).
The 'tree' goes green for both of you at that moment.
The dragster launches and starts after you.
You keep your wrist cranked hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within 3 seconds the dragster catches and passes you.
He beats you to the finish line, a quarter mile away from where you just passed him.
Think about it, from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200 mph (322 km/h) and not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1320 foot (402m) long race course.
Top fuel bike record = 6.319 secs, 215.9 mphYou are riding the average $250,000 Honda MotoGP bike.
Over a mile up the road, a Top Fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a quarter mile strip as you pass.
You have the advantage of a flying start.
You run the RC211V hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line and past the dragster at an honest 200 mph (293 ft/sec) (322 km/h).
The 'tree' goes green for both of you at that moment.
The dragster launches and starts after you.
You keep your wrist cranked hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within 3 seconds the dragster catches and passes you.
He beats you to the finish line, a quarter mile away from where you just passed him.
Think about it, from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200 mph (322 km/h) and not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1320 foot (402m) long race course.
Top fuel car record = 4.42 sec / 330 mph
TopFuelBikeSite said:
Top Fuel Motorcycle facts:
They are the fastest accelerating machines on two wheels on the planet and will out accelerate all vehicles from a standing start (except for Top Fuel Cars) including Formula One Cars and even Thrust SSC and F14 Jet Fighters.
Quick, but not quick enough........They are the fastest accelerating machines on two wheels on the planet and will out accelerate all vehicles from a standing start (except for Top Fuel Cars) including Formula One Cars and even Thrust SSC and F14 Jet Fighters.
...petty and small minded I know, but it was a pretty bold statement!
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