Warming up programme?
Warming up programme?
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FLAT 6

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480 posts

289 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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These frosty mornings have me thinking about whether the Tuscan could be programmed to run a warming up process when parked. When it's really cold I tend to drive my A6 which I can start up on the drive, set everything to demist and come back 10 mins later to a warm, defrosted car.

I'm thinking about some sort of additional programme that holds the engine at c.1500 rpm for 10 mins or so, allowing everything to warm up nicely, defrost windscreen, maybe even rear screen.

Any ECU specialists out there think this could be added to the engine management programme? Or, could there be a mechanical override to hold the revs at a certain level? Maybe a broom handle on the accelerator is the simplest solution!!

FLAT 6

Original Poster:

480 posts

289 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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crycrycry

Noone likes my post crycrycry

Anyway, I've found the solution to being able to see out of the car while driving to warm up.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/200W-12-VOLT-CAR-FAN-HEATER-...

Whitey

2,508 posts

313 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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I doubt that ebay item will work very well!

We all know it's bad to idle your Speed 6 from cold, holding it at 1500rpm without driving it probably is not that much better.

I can only suggest buying a woolly jumper and/or try not to breathe too much inside the car. Maybe a gas ventilator mask to stop your breath misting up the window! smile

Personally apart from the heater taking a while to work, I have not had any major misting issues from a cold/cold and wet start, but it's worse if you have a passenger, then I just open the window.

If you take the roof off does the misting up stop? laugh

Daston

6,148 posts

232 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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Fan heater sat under the engine for 10 - 15 min?

RedTuscan

230 posts

275 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Hoolio

1,184 posts

250 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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I understand Racing Green have developed somethng to do this. Chas Whittaker is your man.

ehasler

8,579 posts

312 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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I'm not convinced this is a great idea - there would be a sudden rise in Tuscan owners shot dead by sleep-deprived neighbours! hehe

FLAT 6

Original Poster:

480 posts

289 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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I did a trial last night in minus 2 degree with a 240v heater. Tuscan had been outside all day and totally frozen up. 10 mins and it was completely clear and dry inside.

My issue has not been the process of warming up the engine but rather being able to see out of the car so that I could actually drive it to warm the engine up. Otherwise, I'd have to sit on the drive for 15 mins holding the revs at somewhere between 1200 and 1600 revs which is a bit dull!!!

So, old, cheap heater on an extension lead it is then!!

Whitey

2,508 posts

313 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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Ah perfect then!!

Tuscan Wil

422 posts

215 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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I've been reading about warming up the engine from various posts and forums, and apparently warming the car up from first start up on the drive, just ticking over at 7-800 rpm, is the worst thing that tuscan owners can do. The engine is not spinning quick enough at this slow speed and it puts unwanted load on the valve gear, as there is not as much momentum for the cams to push the valves open compared to higher revs. So it is much better driving off slowly.

FLAT 6

Original Poster:

480 posts

289 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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Tuscan Wil said:
apparently warming the car up from first start up on the drive, just ticking over at 7-800 rpm, is the worst thing that tuscan owners can do
Yep - definitely the case. I am careful on this point but the problem I've been having is being able to drive the car to warm it up!

I do like the idea of an addition to the engine managment programme to holds the engine at a constant 1300 - 1500 revs until the oil temp reaches say 50 degrees. This would be useful all year round and I suspect would be even better for the engine that driving it when cold.

I rang Racing Green, got an answering service and left a message but no-one rang me back....

Chequred Demon

508 posts

223 months

Sunday 7th December 2008
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"spank my bottom" for being a technophobe, but I find a piece of clean kitchen roll does the job nicely! You can always spray a very small amount of Tesco window cleaner on the kitchen roll as well. Takes about 20 seconds to wipe the screen and then you can see to drive the car as it warms up.

I am struggling to reach 75 water and 60 degrees oil temp this weather.

FLAT 6

Original Poster:

480 posts

289 months

Sunday 7th December 2008
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Ah, but 'tis frozen on the inside of both front and rear screen....the old heater's doing a great job - encourages me to eat breakfast for a change while I wait for the car to demist / heat up. Much more pleasant start to the drive as well!!!

Must try to stop getting the tail out on every corner on these cold mornings though - it'll end in tears I'm sure!

Ron Burgundy

3,296 posts

215 months

Sunday 7th December 2008
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Tuscan Wil said:
I've been reading about warming up the engine from various posts and forums, and apparently warming the car up from first start up on the drive, just ticking over at 7-800 rpm, is the worst thing that tuscan owners can do. The engine is not spinning quick enough at this slow speed and it puts unwanted load on the valve gear, as there is not as much momentum for the cams to push the valves open compared to higher revs. So it is much better driving off slowly.
so how do you do yor warming proceedure then if you dont let it sit on idle?