15K To Spend on everyday Car
15K To Spend on everyday Car
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BEN1981

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1 posts

204 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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Hi Guys

Just cant decide on which car to get so asking for some of your help for years i have always wanted a TVR as my dad had a Griff back in 1994 so now i have 15k to spend on my next car i was looking at Tuscans but as i will be using this as a everyday car ( about 10k a year )i am also torn between BMW E46 M3 cab ( this is buying with my head not my heart as it would with the Tuscan )so if you were in my shoes which would you buy

Thanks

Ben

Edited by BEN1981 on Tuesday 29th September 16:10

rens914

678 posts

260 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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if you have only 15 k to spend and really want to use it as a daily driver
the beamer
rens

RiddleMcFiddle

192 posts

204 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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you cant compare the 2 cars IMO.

The beemer is a fast car, handles well, does the shopping trip as well as my mothers punto, but come on....its so DULL when compared to a TVR of any type.

The tuscan will literally have you pissing yourself with excitement, rip a new ass hole out of the beemer upto 100mph (at which point you'll st yourself and back off) and turn more heads then any other car.

A recently rebuilt Tuscan will have a solidly reliable engine. Just keep up the servicing and put up with a few squeaks and rattles that the beemer wont have and you WILL enjoy owning it more than any other car.

Just be careful in the winter, i struggle to keep traction in the dry!

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Mark A S

2,091 posts

217 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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Do you have to commute far? If possible, what I would do, is buy a run around, that you can abuse, leave out in all weathers, and with the rest buy the Tuscan.
This way you REALLY appreciate the Tuscan, use it weekly, but not daily, and not if you do no want to. Then the Wow Factor will never disappear.
If two Cars are a no go, I would most likely not buy the Tuscan, but would always regret not doing so!

S6 Devil

3,556 posts

262 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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Mark A S said:
Do you have to commute far? If possible, what I would do, is buy a run around, that you can abuse, leave out in all weathers, and with the rest buy the Tuscan.
This way you REALLY appreciate the Tuscan, use it weekly, but not daily, and not if you do no want to. Then the Wow Factor will never disappear.
If two Cars are a no go, I would most likely not buy the Tuscan, but would always regret not doing so!
Good advice IMHO!

I have an old M reg Peugeot 306 for my daily 10 mile hack, shopping, trips to the tip, out with the dog etc. Cheap as chips to run and never worry about parking dinks etc.

For weekends and high days is the Tuscan! Works for me! OK if I'm honest am looking for something a bit newer and more fun for the commute but will do for now!

Buy a Tuscan somehow, you won't regret it. I used to use the Chimaera every day, I would consider a 450 or 500 again. Why not start with a Chim!

Edited by S6 Devil on Tuesday 29th September 19:12

magpie21

489 posts

217 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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These two cars really are chalk and cheese and having owned both, E46 M3 for 2 years and Tuscan for less than a week I'd say go with the M3 as an everyday car.

Like has already been said the Tuscan is wasted as an everyday car it really is too special for this, and will, in the long run, probably be way more expensive to run day to day.

Buy a good M3 preferably with SMG and you'll have a comfortable, quiet, fast car that will be a joy to drive everyday. I've had my Tuscan about a week and I absolutely love it but I think living with it day to day there are lots of squeaks, rattles etc that I would HAVE to get fixed for sanitys sake if I was driving it everyday.

But if you go with a Tuscan it definitely won't be a bad choice!!

Sorry probably not been much help!!!


RiddleMcFiddle

192 posts

204 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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magpie - please give a comparison on performance between the 2, ive driven the m3 for about 50 miles, but not OWNED one.

would love to hear opinions on power, acceleration etc.


rens914

678 posts

260 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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to specify
i have an peugeot 406 coupe (LPG) and seat altea (TDI,DSG) as daily drivers.
the tuscan is for pleasure and trackdays
i wouldn't like the tuscan as dailey driver
it's not a handy/easy daily car and it wouldn't be good for my wallet.
to much torque for wet or frost, it consumes tyres like i drink my wine, if you drive it firmly the petrolsupplier will and the tvr specialist can be your best friend
buy a simple car for every day and a tuscan for pleasure

so like i said today
if you only want to buy 1 car and need to use it everyday buy the beamer
rens

Basil Brush

5,609 posts

292 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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I've used my '00 Tuscan as my only car for about 6 years now. It's fine in traffic but the servicing can get a bit pricey if you get into the 2 services a year region.

I originally kept my old 944S as a daily beater but I wasn't using it at all so it went.

UpTheIron

4,058 posts

297 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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1. How much money can you / are you prepared to spend on running costs?
2. What happens if the car is off the road for a couple of weeks - could you still get to work etc?

10k/year is perfectly possible (I've done 20k+ in a year in a TVR before), but the bills will add up over time and services often aren't turned around same day if an obscure part is required. Same could be said for the M3, but costs are probably a little more predictable.

RiddleMcFiddle

192 posts

204 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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basil brush - would be keen to hear the cost per year breakdown for your ownership.

On average most performance cars cost £1000 - £1500 per year.

Have you had a rebuild?


willtvr

1,099 posts

226 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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BEN1981 said:
Hi Guys

Just cant decide on which car to get so asking for some of your help for years i have always wanted a TVR as my dad had a Griff back in 1994 so now i have 15k to spend on my next car i was looking at Tuscans but as i will be using this as a everyday car ( about 10k a year )i am also torn between BMW E46 M3 cab ( this is buying with my head not my heart as it would with the Tuscan )so if you were in my shoes which would you buy

Thanks

Ben

Edited by BEN1981 on Tuesday 29th September 16:10
BMW should be fine for the daily run to and from the salon biglaugh

UpTheIron

4,058 posts

297 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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RiddleMcFiddle said:
On average most performance cars cost £1000 - £1500 per year.
What's that based on, and what does it include?

In my experience you need deeper pockets that that. I need to update my Tuscan history, but when you start including the odd clutch, sets of tyres, discs/pads it mounts up pretty quickly.

willtvr

1,099 posts

226 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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RiddleMcFiddle said:
basil brush - would be keen to hear the cost per year breakdown for your ownership.

On average most performance cars cost £1000 - £1500 per year.

Have you had a rebuild?
The exception presumably being TVR? wink

magpie21

489 posts

217 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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RiddleMcFiddle said:
magpie - please give a comparison on performance between the 2, ive driven the m3 for about 50 miles, but not OWNED one.

would love to hear opinions on power, acceleration etc.
I don't think I can give a fair comparison at the moment as I've only had the Tuscan a few days and it isn't running quite right at the moment, but this will be rectified tomorrow!!

The M3 is very easy to drive, I've had both the E46 M3 and have just sold my E92 M3. The E46 has alot of power and is easy to drive very fast especially with the SMG gearbox. Obviously having traction control you can enter corners with a bit of a safety barrier and the traction control light flickering away gives you an extra warning as to how close to the edge you are, (if you can't tell from the back end twitching!!) all in it feels 'safe' to push on with it. The SMG gearbox also does alot of te work for you, upshifts are full throttle and on the downshifts it matches the revs for you. Some say it takes the enjoyment out of driving but I think it just adds a different dimension.

The E92 is different again, the big V8 feels alot lazier than the straight six of the E46 but once you get the engine in the higher revs the engine note is fantastic and the car is incredibly fast. I had a manual in the E92 and really enjoyed it. The E92 has alot more electronic aids and they can be set how you want them. Mine had EDC so you can set the suspension damping settings which made the car very versatile. You can also set the traction control so that it is either on, off or halfway so you can get a bit of oversteer before the car thinks things are getting out of hand. A massively competent car which you can throw around or cruise sedately in!!

Hope this helps.

m3coupe

1,126 posts

233 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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If I was you, I wouldn't buy a Tuscan for everyday.

I bought mine as a second/weekend car and for the first year I loved every minute of the car.

This year I ran the Tuscan as a everyday car as my daily runabout died on me. It ruined the specialness of the car for me. Yes I enjoyed driving it and it's looks but the constant warm up procedures every time I had to drive it, the little niggles that as a second car never bothered me began to. The terrible weather this summer meant it wasn't fun to drive.

It all added up to me putting it up for sale recently as I was sick of it.

Then 2 weeks ago after having my parents car for the week, a nice sunny day turned up so I took the Tuscan out. ll the looks from pedestrians, the sound of the car, that wee break from it made it special again. Bought another everyday car and car is now not for sale and i'm planning on keeping it for a long time.

Basically my advice is get a good sorted Tuscan but buy a cheap runabout for everyday so the car is a pleasure to drive everytime you get into it.

Chequred Demon

508 posts

223 months

Wednesday 30th September 2009
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I agree with M3Coupe....

"...the husband of the mooooost beautiful woman in the world, is probably fed up with shagging her."

Sooo get a daily runabout and keep the Tuscan for the weekends.

BTW I just purchased an 86 2.0L Capri Laser, with new engine, brakes and the bodywork all done.
I will be picking her up this Friday and can't wait!

Cost me £5.26 to insure with hagerty!

The Surveyor

7,624 posts

266 months

Wednesday 30th September 2009
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Chequred Demon said:
I agree with M3Coupe....

"...the husband of the mooooost beautiful woman in the world, is probably fed up with shagging her."

Sooo get a daily runabout and keep the Tuscan for the weekends.

BTW I just purchased an 86 2.0L Capri Laser, with new engine, brakes and the bodywork all done.
I will be picking her up this Friday and can't wait!

Cost me £5.26 to insure with hagerty!
So the advice is buy the BMW and have an afair!!!!

My Tuscan does approx 7k miles per year and I would to budget £3 - £4k for servicing, tyres and repairs excluding petrol and insurance. They are special and have expensive needs and the 'gloss' of owning one of these fantastic cars would soon go when the weather is rubbish and the nights are dark....

Paul

Chequred Demon

508 posts

223 months

Wednesday 30th September 2009
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As long as the affair is with a 23 year old, cheap as chips and common as muck, dirty dagenham slut - defo!

m3coupe

1,126 posts

233 months

Wednesday 30th September 2009
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The Surveyor said:
Chequred Demon said:
I agree with M3Coupe....

"...the husband of the mooooost beautiful woman in the world, is probably fed up with shagging her."

Sooo get a daily runabout and keep the Tuscan for the weekends.

BTW I just purchased an 86 2.0L Capri Laser, with new engine, brakes and the bodywork all done.
I will be picking her up this Friday and can't wait!

Cost me £5.26 to insure with hagerty!
So the advice is buy the BMW and have an afair!!!!

My Tuscan does approx 7k miles per year and I would to budget £3 - £4k for servicing, tyres and repairs excluding petrol and insurance. They are special and have expensive needs and the 'gloss' of owning one of these fantastic cars would soon go when the weather is rubbish and the nights are dark....

Paul
Budget of 3 to 4 k is a worse case scenario. I've spent roughly 4k on mine in the past 19 months but that is with a replacement clutch, 2 services, tyres, 1 wheel and other little bits and pieces.