help my tuscan feel stable
help my tuscan feel stable
Author
Discussion

RiddleMcFiddle

Original Poster:

192 posts

204 months

Monday 5th October 2009
quotequote all
Guys,

Above 100mph the car requires A LOT of concentration to feel in control.

Now i know my GEO needs doing, but my 9 year old standard shockers are ready for the bin.

Now options and your opinions are welcome -

1. Racing reds - Affordable and str8six recommend these
2. Nitron sport - £995 so a litte OTT.
3. GAZ - £600 for these, not sure on spec.

Im really favoring the racing reds, as they are made by nitron who have one of the best reputations in the world for high end quality shockers.


alinton

965 posts

265 months

Monday 5th October 2009
quotequote all
Well I have Nitrons on the Cerbera, and Gaz's on the Tuscan, and the Cerb rides much better than the Tuscan.

Now, I havn't finished adjusting the Gaz's, but right now I prefer the Nitrons.

But, YMMV.

A.

Ticker

458 posts

277 months

Monday 5th October 2009
quotequote all
RiddleMcFiddle,

replaced my original Bilsteins with Nitrons, got set up and it was like day and night in comparison.

Go with Nitrons, they are worth the extra!

Dave

Blues

8,546 posts

248 months

Monday 5th October 2009
quotequote all
Got Nitrons on the Chim and Tuscan. The Chim is extremely stable, the Tusc can still be a little skittish. I'm told TADTS biggrin

RiddleMcFiddle

Original Poster:

192 posts

204 months

Monday 5th October 2009
quotequote all
yeah i heard the tuscan is a handful at higher speeds, but getting to 100+ is so quick, that it feels pointless not really being able to go any quicker through fear of death.

I think ive gotta be realistic in terms of cost though, and with the other bits and bobs i wanna do i might go with racing reds.

Welcome any opinions if anyone is running these.

Nitrons are a little out of my price range for shocks at the moment, with a respray pending in Jan too.

Daston

6,148 posts

232 months

Monday 5th October 2009
quotequote all
Dulfords recommended Racing reds to me and they are fantastic.

SP6 Animal

6,015 posts

239 months

Monday 5th October 2009
quotequote all
Power recommend rr too off course nitrons would be better but double the price i have them on my T350 £600
For some reason not that popular people favoring gaz but with recent events the tide might turn.
Mines in for a geo so i will see if there better than the origionals now there bedded in.
I too suffer scary moments at high speed.

Should'nt your title say unstable?

Edited by SP6 Animal on Monday 5th October 22:49

RiddleMcFiddle

Original Poster:

192 posts

204 months

Tuesday 6th October 2009
quotequote all
Cheers guys!

I have had bad experiences with GAZ in the past so they are the last option.

Ill get the racing reds, i can get em at -25% too via a friend who has an account with nitron so a great deal.


s6boy

1,851 posts

254 months

Tuesday 6th October 2009
quotequote all
If you know the geo needs setting up get that done first to see the difference it makes-it really can be night and day, and get the guys who do it to road test your car and give their opinion on the state of the shocks.


Chequred Demon

508 posts

223 months

Tuesday 6th October 2009
quotequote all
If you REALLY want stability at high speed - put a large "F1" style wing on the boot.

I would not do a track day without one. To experiment I took it off at Marham and gently slipped gracefully off the track! With the wing on it feels so planted, the difference is remarkable coming into a high speed corner at 150mph, all the "twitchyness" simply disappears.

It seems to cost around 3mph top end speed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbK6tjfr3yc

I had really knackered original shocks and now I have got Racing Reds and they seem OK. The tyres seem to remain in contact with the tarmac and all four scrub off evenly. I think there were probs with the early batch??

If the car is twitchy you probably need to adjust the camber. I have mine set to two degress cause I like it like that and the "turn in" is more pronounced. It is pretty nervous on bumpy roads, but sorts itself out the faster you go.

RedRose123

650 posts

254 months

Tuesday 6th October 2009
quotequote all
Thats why they are so much fun on windy bumpy country roads.

HRG.

72,863 posts

268 months

Tuesday 6th October 2009
quotequote all
www.centregravity.co.uk

You will get more benefit from having a proper geo done than by replacing any single component IMO. I can't speak highly enough of the work Chris did in setting my car up, the difference was night and day and that was after I'd replaced everything underneath.

900T-R

20,406 posts

286 months

Tuesday 6th October 2009
quotequote all
What he said. Wheel geo first, after that if you decide to replace shocks get the very best you can afford.

RiddleMcFiddle

Original Poster:

192 posts

204 months

Tuesday 6th October 2009
quotequote all
yeah i think GEO will make a good difference, but ill fit new shocks first to save doing it twice.

My old shocks are a little corroded so they are just about ready for the bin.

Cheers all!

Ticker

458 posts

277 months

Tuesday 6th October 2009
quotequote all
RiddleMcFiddle,

before Nitrons,and geo set up, very skittish, after, and 2 days TVR Ride drive learning how to drive the beastie, it turns out the nut behind the wheel is probably the best investment you can make. The car is far exceeding my driving ability, but with the combo of the two, the faster u travel, the more planted it feels (IMHO)

I got 173 at Bruntingthope airway, and chickened out, car still pulling as steady as anything. Since then, no issue with spirited driving,

Enjoy smile

Dave

BDM

408 posts

211 months

Tuesday 6th October 2009
quotequote all
Where do you guys go for Geo setup? Whos recommended? Can see one for Centre Gravity...

Ticker

458 posts

277 months

Tuesday 6th October 2009
quotequote all
Hi,

has anone fitted the front and rear rose drop links from Steve Heath? Do they really make a difference?

Dave

dvs_dave

9,040 posts

254 months

Tuesday 6th October 2009
quotequote all
Ticker said:
Hi,

has anone fitted the front and rear rose drop links from Steve Heath? Do they really make a difference?

Dave
I've often wondered that, but not really had anything definative from anyone as to what they actually improve and if it's at all noticable.

HRG.

72,863 posts

268 months

Tuesday 6th October 2009
quotequote all
They do, they reduce body roll. As I've mentioned, the most definitive improvement I had was a proper geo setup and that was after mine had already been on a four wheel laser jig and was completely within TVR tolerances.

rens914

678 posts

260 months

Wednesday 7th October 2009
quotequote all
the protech dampers could be a good option too (cheaper than the nitrons and equal)
because i really like a firm ride the protech's have been sent back to the tvr.shop and have been revalved for a harder fitting
contact Harry if you need some and refer to my settings
gr rens