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Hi all replacing my tyres next week as the rears are nearly worn out (20,000) miles the fronts are only half worn though.
Anyway do i replace with 255s all around as this is how they come from the factory as i have read here that you are better fitting 225s on the front, i am buying Avons zz3s so what do other tuscan 2 s drivers go for..Gordon.................
Anyway do i replace with 255s all around as this is how they come from the factory as i have read here that you are better fitting 225s on the front, i am buying Avons zz3s so what do other tuscan 2 s drivers go for..Gordon.................
Hi Gordon, I think I'm the only convertible on 225s (as instructed by Ben Lang) seem OK for me, but I'm not a speed mechant and don't go on track days...changed to reduce tramlining, then now discover I've got Chinesse F1s (took off 255 German F1s)...which some on here say increase tramlining (because of different construction).. so totally confused myself ... but happy with the car.
TOV!E said:
Basil Brush said:
It's worth considering the Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta tyres as well. They feel much better than the F1 GSD3s they replaced and, as a bonus, much cheaper.
I was thinking of Vredestein, but you can get a set of Avons ZZ3s for £400.....at risk of getting flamed here, im gonna suggest NANKANG Ultrasport NS2's.
now i know they are a 'budget' tyre, but Nankang a a subsidary of Yokohama, and ive used them on a few previous cars, one in particular had more power than the tuscan and i found them VERY grippy in the dry, as good as GSD3 F1's.
Im running proxes on my tuscan at the mo, but they are soon the be replaced so i may give the nankangs a go on the tuscan.
now i know they are a 'budget' tyre, but Nankang a a subsidary of Yokohama, and ive used them on a few previous cars, one in particular had more power than the tuscan and i found them VERY grippy in the dry, as good as GSD3 F1's.
Im running proxes on my tuscan at the mo, but they are soon the be replaced so i may give the nankangs a go on the tuscan.
nanking, avon, vredestein
don't play around
buy some good tyres and drink a beer less
toyo R1R's
super sticky tyres
like we say in my country
kost wah maor dan hedde ok wah
translated
it costs you more but then you'll have more
don't play around with 380 bhp but buy the best tyres there are
rens
don't play around
buy some good tyres and drink a beer less
toyo R1R's
super sticky tyres
like we say in my country
kost wah maor dan hedde ok wah
translated
it costs you more but then you'll have more
don't play around with 380 bhp but buy the best tyres there are
rens
rens914 said:
nanking, avon, vredestein
don't play around
buy some good tyres and drink a beer less
toyo R1R's
super sticky tyres
like we say in my country
kost wah maor dan hedde ok wah
translated
it costs you more but then you'll have more
don't play around with 380 bhp but buy the best tyres there are
rens
Hi Rens, i had toyos on my last tuscan s and have to say they have put me off for life....don't play around
buy some good tyres and drink a beer less
toyo R1R's
super sticky tyres
like we say in my country
kost wah maor dan hedde ok wah
translated
it costs you more but then you'll have more
don't play around with 380 bhp but buy the best tyres there are
rens
rens914 said:
nanking, avon, vredestein
don't play around
buy some good tyres and drink a beer less
toyo R1R's
super sticky tyres
like we say in my country
kost wah maor dan hedde ok wah
translated
it costs you more but then you'll have more
don't play around with 380 bhp but buy the best tyres there are
rens
You keep jumping on tyre threads with this line Rens. The Vredesteins have beaten most stuff in back to back tests, including the F1s which were widely considered to be the best all round high performance ROAD tyre.don't play around
buy some good tyres and drink a beer less
toyo R1R's
super sticky tyres
like we say in my country
kost wah maor dan hedde ok wah
translated
it costs you more but then you'll have more
don't play around with 380 bhp but buy the best tyres there are
rens
I drive my car year round in wet, snow etc etc so need something that can cope, not a sticky track tyre.
The Ultracs are fantastic and if I can keep a few quid in the process then it's all good.
have driven a lot of fast cars the last 30 years and have always used sport/track tyres.
can't understand people trying to cut back on the only contact they have with the road
from michelin (super sport)to pirelli (corsa)and yokohama's (advan)
have only used "normal" tyres on my C5 vette. F1's. they were rubbish on the wet. and the former model was better than the new one.
the vredestein tyre is a dutch tyre and cant be good (sidewall is to soft for this kind of power)
the only "normal tyre that surprised me was the uniroyal rainplus sport tyre
but
you could be right
won't mention tyres again
rens
can't understand people trying to cut back on the only contact they have with the road
from michelin (super sport)to pirelli (corsa)and yokohama's (advan)
have only used "normal" tyres on my C5 vette. F1's. they were rubbish on the wet. and the former model was better than the new one.
the vredestein tyre is a dutch tyre and cant be good (sidewall is to soft for this kind of power)
the only "normal tyre that surprised me was the uniroyal rainplus sport tyre
but
you could be right
won't mention tyres again
rens
Edited by rens914 on Thursday 8th October 23:43
Lol - Nelly i see your point, but lets be realistic.
That picture is on a wet road, probably giving it way too much throttle and lost control. NO tyre is gonna make a tuscan a fast car in the rain/wet.
Even The BEST specification tyres we can buy are not gonna grip on a wet slimy road; are you really gonna get any grip with the likes of a T1R or Potenza tyre?
The difference between tyres is not huge, people make out that having a high spec flash tyre means they are either glued to the road, or they have corner speeds way exceeding anyone else without the same tyres.
Basically whatever tyre you choose, i belive that in everyday conditions for road users there isnt a great deal of difference between a Toyo T1R, Eagle F1, or whatver your choice.
Ive run nankangs on my old 993 Turbo (yes i know what your thinking) and i did many successful trackdays in it, some damp and some dry and never had any issues. Im not saying they are as well made as the big brands (who knows?) but for me they were fine and i gave the 993 a hard time of track, as did the instructors at bedford and nobody had any complaints.
Everyone will have their own opinion or 'favorite' tyre.
That picture is on a wet road, probably giving it way too much throttle and lost control. NO tyre is gonna make a tuscan a fast car in the rain/wet.
Even The BEST specification tyres we can buy are not gonna grip on a wet slimy road; are you really gonna get any grip with the likes of a T1R or Potenza tyre?
The difference between tyres is not huge, people make out that having a high spec flash tyre means they are either glued to the road, or they have corner speeds way exceeding anyone else without the same tyres.
Basically whatever tyre you choose, i belive that in everyday conditions for road users there isnt a great deal of difference between a Toyo T1R, Eagle F1, or whatver your choice.
Ive run nankangs on my old 993 Turbo (yes i know what your thinking) and i did many successful trackdays in it, some damp and some dry and never had any issues. Im not saying they are as well made as the big brands (who knows?) but for me they were fine and i gave the 993 a hard time of track, as did the instructors at bedford and nobody had any complaints.
Everyone will have their own opinion or 'favorite' tyre.
Ok, so ignoring the specifics of the picture... 
Maybe I should have simply said...
"Tuscan + Nankang Ditchfinders = Crashed Tuscan"
I take your point about everyone's got their personal preferences, but the fact that these sort of tyres are supposedly made by xxxxxx manufacturer, but cost a fraction of the well known brands should tell you all you need to know.
They are cheap for a reason!
Tuscans are twitchy at the best of times, and skimping on the four sandwich-plate sized contact patches between you and the road cannot help IMHO.
Maybe I should have simply said...
"Tuscan + Nankang Ditchfinders = Crashed Tuscan"
I take your point about everyone's got their personal preferences, but the fact that these sort of tyres are supposedly made by xxxxxx manufacturer, but cost a fraction of the well known brands should tell you all you need to know.
They are cheap for a reason!
Tuscans are twitchy at the best of times, and skimping on the four sandwich-plate sized contact patches between you and the road cannot help IMHO.
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