sBrand New Tuscan's
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flyingjase

Original Poster:

3,094 posts

257 months

Sunday 28th February 2010
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I've done a search and couldn't find anything on this topic

How are Racing Green selling brand new Tuscans? Have they bought the rights / moulds etc?

If you can get a brand new MK2 Tuscan, is it possible anywhere to buy a brand new MK1 Tuscan?

I need to get a new car in the summer when my Alfa's lease is up and so far I'm looking at an Aston Martin Vantage Roadster V8, 2 years old. With that budget I could get a brand new Tuscan and change.

Personally I don't like the MK2 - too soft looking (IMHO) - but I do miss my MK1 S. If you could buy a brand new one built to your own spec, well then could be very tempting.

Any ideas?

x 7usc

1,443 posts

221 months

Sunday 28th February 2010
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i would buy the mark 1 over the mk2 also, just prefer the pepperpot grille and dash on the mk1 (well i am biased) as to new tuscans from RG they will be unfinished ones bought from the recievers when the factory closed, and finished off by RG

glow worm

7,237 posts

253 months

Sunday 28th February 2010
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NS bought TVR out of Administration so the unfinished cars were his...Multipart stored them (and had a few until recently see Tuscan Vert register) RG bought some of them and Jason Clegg (STR8SIX) got a couple, the rest may well have been crated up now and gone to Germany/Bulgaria along with the prototype Tuscan GT.

peteA

2,758 posts

260 months

Monday 1st March 2010
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flyingjase said:
I've done a search and couldn't find anything on this topic

How are Racing Green selling brand new Tuscans? Have they bought the rights / moulds etc?

If you can get a brand new MK2 Tuscan, is it possible anywhere to buy a brand new MK1 Tuscan?

I need to get a new car in the summer when my Alfa's lease is up and so far I'm looking at an Aston Martin Vantage Roadster V8, 2 years old. With that budget I could get a brand new Tuscan and change.

Personally I don't like the MK2 - too soft looking (IMHO) - but I do miss my MK1 S. If you could buy a brand new one built to your own spec, well then could be very tempting.

Any ideas?
I know this sounds a bit daft but could you not look into buying a new tuscan...albeit the mkII and ask if the MkI front end could be put on it? I assume that is the stlying bit that you prefer as otherwise they are pretty similar? Just a thought - personally I like both and wouldn't do this but there you go, each to there own!

W111AAM

667 posts

258 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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I was at Racing Green a few weeks ago enquiring about these Tuscan 2's they have for sale. For a brand new, '10' registered Convertible built to your spec your looking at £55-£60k!

flyingjase

Original Poster:

3,094 posts

257 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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W111AAM said:
I was at Racing Green a few weeks ago enquiring about these Tuscan 2's they have for sale. For a brand new, '10' registered Convertible built to your spec your looking at £55-£60k!
Do you know what, for a MK1 I would probably pay that. MK2, I wouldn't pay half that

flyingjase

Original Poster:

3,094 posts

257 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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glow worm said:
NS bought TVR out of Administration so the unfinished cars were his...Multipart stored them (and had a few until recently see Tuscan Vert register) RG bought some of them and Jason Clegg (STR8SIX) got a couple, the rest may well have been crated up now and gone to Germany/Bulgaria along with the prototype Tuscan GT.
Interesting, so if you know NS you can get a MK1 made assuming he still has the equipment etc.

Does anyone know if NS is ever going to make another TVR or not?

JR

14,332 posts

284 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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flyingjase said:
Does anyone know if NS is ever going to make another TVR or not?
I would say no, not even NS.

JR

14,332 posts

284 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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peteA said:
I know this sounds a bit daft but could you not look into buying a new tuscan...albeit the mkII and ask if the MkI front end could be put on it? I assume that is the stlying bit that you prefer as otherwise they are pretty similar?
This is the way forward. Front can be grafted on easily, the plasticman has even grafted it onto the front of Chims. The chassis are identical and you'd have the choice of spring rates etc.

flyingjase

Original Poster:

3,094 posts

257 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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JR said:
peteA said:
I know this sounds a bit daft but could you not look into buying a new tuscan...albeit the mkII and ask if the MkI front end could be put on it? I assume that is the stlying bit that you prefer as otherwise they are pretty similar?
This is the way forward. Front can be grafted on easily, the plasticman has even grafted it onto the front of Chims. The chassis are identical and you'd have the choice of spring rates etc.
OK, what about the back then???

V8 GRF

7,298 posts

236 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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glow worm said:
NS bought TVR out of Administration so the unfinished cars were his...Multipart stored them (and had a few until recently see Tuscan Vert register) RG bought some of them and Jason Clegg (STR8SIX) got a couple, the rest may well have been crated up now and gone to Germany/Bulgaria along with the prototype Tuscan GT.
Most of what Keith says is correct.

The cars that Jason bought were bought directly from TVR as were a few of the other more complete cars that were finished off and sold by HHC among others.

Multipart actually own the cars that RG are offering so RG are acting as agents for those cars as Multipart aquired them under an agreement as payment for unpaid storage bills (sound familiar?) so it's unlikely that they've left the country.

No new cars have been started since the factory closed in 2006, so all the cars currently available pre-date the closure.

The majority of the moulds were held by a company in Somerset and they supplied panels exclusively via Multipart. I don't know if that's still the case or whether they left the country during the recent activities but it will all depend on what the Multipart deal requires, or indeed if Multipart have aquired ownership in the interim under similar 'contra' deals.


hvdweerden

1,739 posts

226 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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flyingjase said:
JR said:
peteA said:
I know this sounds a bit daft but could you not look into buying a new tuscan...albeit the mkII and ask if the MkI front end could be put on it? I assume that is the stlying bit that you prefer as otherwise they are pretty similar?
This is the way forward. Front can be grafted on easily, the plasticman has even grafted it onto the front of Chims. The chassis are identical and you'd have the choice of spring rates etc.
OK, what about the back then???
Anything can be made, see link. MK1 in MK2 disguise !

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1500911.htm

glow worm

7,237 posts

253 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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V8 GRF said:
glow worm said:
NS bought TVR out of Administration so the unfinished cars were his...Multipart stored them (and had a few until recently see Tuscan Vert register) RG bought some of them and Jason Clegg (STR8SIX) got a couple, the rest may well have been crated up now and gone to Germany/Bulgaria along with the prototype Tuscan GT.
Most of what Keith says is correct.

The cars that Jason bought were bought directly from TVR as were a few of the other more complete cars that were finished off and sold by HHC among others.

Multipart actually own the cars that RG are offering so RG are acting as agents for those cars as Multipart aquired them under an agreement as payment for unpaid storage bills (sound familiar?) so it's unlikely that they've left the country.

No new cars have been started since the factory closed in 2006, so all the cars currently available pre-date the closure.

The majority of the moulds were held by a company in Somerset and they supplied panels exclusively via Multipart. I don't know if that's still the case or whether they left the country during the recent activities but it will all depend on what the Multipart deal requires, or indeed if Multipart have aquired ownership in the interim under similar 'contra' deals.
I understand the moulds have been collected and shipped out plus other stuff... The Multipart agreement to supply parts was for 5 years and ends 2012. Suppliers were only given TVR "property" under a licence to manufacture hence I think there could be supply issues on TVR in-house parts...Door Caps for starters.

SonicHedgeHog

2,769 posts

208 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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glow worm said:
V8 GRF said:
glow worm said:
NS bought TVR out of Administration so the unfinished cars were his...Multipart stored them (and had a few until recently see Tuscan Vert register) RG bought some of them and Jason Clegg (STR8SIX) got a couple, the rest may well have been crated up now and gone to Germany/Bulgaria along with the prototype Tuscan GT.
Most of what Keith says is correct.

The cars that Jason bought were bought directly from TVR as were a few of the other more complete cars that were finished off and sold by HHC among others.

Multipart actually own the cars that RG are offering so RG are acting as agents for those cars as Multipart aquired them under an agreement as payment for unpaid storage bills (sound familiar?) so it's unlikely that they've left the country.

No new cars have been started since the factory closed in 2006, so all the cars currently available pre-date the closure.

The majority of the moulds were held by a company in Somerset and they supplied panels exclusively via Multipart. I don't know if that's still the case or whether they left the country during the recent activities but it will all depend on what the Multipart deal requires, or indeed if Multipart have aquired ownership in the interim under similar 'contra' deals.
I understand the moulds have been collected and shipped out plus other stuff... The Multipart agreement to supply parts was for 5 years and ends 2012. Suppliers were only given TVR "property" under a licence to manufacture hence I think there could be supply issues on TVR in-house parts...Door Caps for starters.
Are these supply issues going to affect my Griff? If so, do we think it might be worth stocking up on certain items?

glow worm

7,237 posts

253 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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Call me a pessimist but (since I intend keeping my cars for many years to come) , I've been "collecting" bits for the last 3 years ....got half a Tuscan now biggrin

Try getting door caps for either a Chim or Griff you'll be lucky. IIRC complete steering racks (Chim/Griff) may also become a problem (other than refurbishing seals)

Edited by glow worm on Tuesday 2nd March 22:16

V8 GRF

7,298 posts

236 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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glow worm said:
Call me a pessimist but (since I intend keeping my cars for many years to come) , I've been "collecting" bits for the last 3 years ....got half a Tuscan now biggrin

Try getting door caps for either a Chim or Griff you'll be lucky. IIRC complete steering racks (Chim/Griff) may also become a problem (other than refurbishing seals)
You're a pessemist smile


However, I think you're right to be...

The lack of moulds (if Keith is correct that all the production moulds have gone) probably isn't a problem with the number of talented bodyshops we have in this country but with regards to other bits like the new steering racks for example there may well be an issue unless you can buy them from Multipart (TVR where offering them)and iirc they were being quored at about £900 each for a Griff/Chim one.

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

217 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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V8 GRF said:
glow worm said:
Call me a pessimist but (since I intend keeping my cars for many years to come) , I've been "collecting" bits for the last 3 years ....got half a Tuscan now biggrin

Try getting door caps for either a Chim or Griff you'll be lucky. IIRC complete steering racks (Chim/Griff) may also become a problem (other than refurbishing seals)
You're a pessemist smile


However, I think you're right to be...

The lack of moulds (if Keith is correct that all the production moulds have gone) probably isn't a problem with the number of talented bodyshops we have in this country but with regards to other bits like the new steering racks for example there may well be an issue unless you can buy them from Multipart (TVR where offering them)and iirc they were being quored at about £900 each for a Griff/Chim one.
You're a paitr of pessemists.

Makes you wonder how folk keep old cars om the road. smile

Steering racks can be refurbished, and probably to a higher satndard for less money than the original.

V8 GRF

7,298 posts

236 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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TVR_owner said:
Steering racks can be refurbished, and probably to a higher satndard for less money than the original.
Thanks hehe

Problem with a lot of the TVR racks when they're referbished though is they strip the alloy threads off the body when disassembled and if the rack bar is rusty it can cause wear when re-assembled. That's probably why a lot of racks that people have referbished leak again very quickly.

The other problem with regards to parts may well be TVRs aggressive attitude to people supplying 'non-official' parts a number of people on here know only too well how willing they are to issue solicitors letters.


glow worm

7,237 posts

253 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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TVR_owner said:
Steering racks can be refurbished, and probably to a higher satndard for less money than the original.
Refurbished, yes as I stated...But accident damage may be a little more difficult.

Noisy

4,489 posts

303 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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Jason, your old one is still going well, unfortunately it's just blow the head-gasket after it overheated, but a good excuse to get a 4.3 biggrin

Why not consider a clean tidy MK1 S, there are a few very low mileage cars out there, sure if you spend a few £'s you can have it trimmed to your specs etc.

Paul