Anyone considering selling their mk2'S' ?
Discussion
Afternoon all!
Soon to be making the jump from my beloved 450Chim to a Tuscan and have settled on finding myself a decent mk2'S'
As it'll hopefully be a long term prospect i'm looking for a decent condition, fairly low mileage example.
There's only a couple around at the moment, but if anyone knows of any likely to come up in the near future, or you're considering selling yours then i'd be interested!
One initial question: I'll be looking to change the cans to CCC's - Where can these be purchased at the moment, or are their any good alternatives?
Cheers
Dave
Soon to be making the jump from my beloved 450Chim to a Tuscan and have settled on finding myself a decent mk2'S'
As it'll hopefully be a long term prospect i'm looking for a decent condition, fairly low mileage example.
There's only a couple around at the moment, but if anyone knows of any likely to come up in the near future, or you're considering selling yours then i'd be interested!
One initial question: I'll be looking to change the cans to CCC's - Where can these be purchased at the moment, or are their any good alternatives?
Cheers
Dave
You can get Carbon cans from Powertech Performance - stick "TVR Carbon Cans" into ebay and you should find them. Alternatives are available from ACT performance products. Blueflame used to be an option but don't think they are available anymore. Think that's about it - but no doubt there are other options out there!
Worth considering upgraded shocks also if a car is still running standard, and a lightened flywheel is quite amusing.
Worth considering upgraded shocks also if a car is still running standard, and a lightened flywheel is quite amusing.
F1CCF said:
I second Powertech Performance, I bought and fitted these on my car, they're brillant.
How did you get on with the Fernhurst Tuscan, thought you changed your mind for a Tamora instead?
Having just seen drivingfroggy's video... i'm inclined to agree. It sounds superb!How did you get on with the Fernhurst Tuscan, thought you changed your mind for a Tamora instead?
Didn't manage to take Fernhursts Tuscan out as it was absolutely chucking it down so seemed little point. I'm taking the Chim down there for a service next week so hopefully the weather will be better. I did go out over the weekend and drove the Reflex Charcoal 3.6 at Clinkard and then the Rolex Blue 4.0S at Racing Green over the weekend and it was the 4.0S that really impressed, although the 3.6 was pretty poorly so that didn't help.
The Tuscan/Tamora thing is still going on in my head. If a Tamora comes up that's absolutely perfect colour/spec/age/price etc, then i'd be happy with one as I was really impressed with the drive. Indeed I just missed out on a beatiful Zircon Blue Tam through the TVRCC. Perfect spec/colour/upgrades and a decent price but was beaten by 24hrs
So technically, i'm keeping my eye out for both, but if I can find a Tuscan at the right price then that would probably be my preference. Having driven them both, I only wish I can afford one of each!!!
How are you finding yours now that it's been a few weeks since you picked it up?
Got a 2007 mk 3 "s"model (wavey dash model) in Glow red very very low miles,(only done 7 miles in the last 4 years)
I know its not a mk2 but is very limited manufactured model 26 inc non s models made, a more sorted reliable car than the mk2 . but if your flexible about model i might be persuaded to part.
What sort of price do you have in mind ?
I know its not a mk2 but is very limited manufactured model 26 inc non s models made, a more sorted reliable car than the mk2 . but if your flexible about model i might be persuaded to part.
What sort of price do you have in mind ?
reliable electrics and electronics ,
Suspension/geometry was changed twice since "tuscan" from what i gather
Steering components differ
Even slight body differences,air box
in not sure when but the newer refined engine was fitted at some stage
Generally shares some components with the topless tuscan ,sagaris and t350,tamara.
Not sure what/why youd upgrade the Bilstein dampers and ebach springs to/for ??
All part of evolution and refinement since they became built under busy Russian control.
Crap quality and unreliability, something under brit control stood still and was ignored. Then people wonder why British company's go tits up
Suspension/geometry was changed twice since "tuscan" from what i gather
Steering components differ
Even slight body differences,air box
in not sure when but the newer refined engine was fitted at some stage
Generally shares some components with the topless tuscan ,sagaris and t350,tamara.
Not sure what/why youd upgrade the Bilstein dampers and ebach springs to/for ??
All part of evolution and refinement since they became built under busy Russian control.
Crap quality and unreliability, something under brit control stood still and was ignored. Then people wonder why British company's go tits up
Edited by froggie on Friday 25th February 23:59
Not my understanding.
1) Dashboard simplified to align with convertible and share components from other T cars - probably to save costs?...any evidence of better reliability entirely circumstantial.
2) Adoption of Bilstein Dampers/eibach springs....think most or all Tuscan 2's had the cheaper ones that are definitely worth upgrading!
Electrics, geometry/suspension (dampers aside), steering, body, air box, engine all the same for Mk2 and "mk3".
http://www.racinggreentvr.com/models/tuscan-2.asp
Happy to be corrected though!
1) Dashboard simplified to align with convertible and share components from other T cars - probably to save costs?...any evidence of better reliability entirely circumstantial.
2) Adoption of Bilstein Dampers/eibach springs....think most or all Tuscan 2's had the cheaper ones that are definitely worth upgrading!
Electrics, geometry/suspension (dampers aside), steering, body, air box, engine all the same for Mk2 and "mk3".
http://www.racinggreentvr.com/models/tuscan-2.asp
Happy to be corrected though!
Froggie i've sent you a pm.
I'm car hunting over the next week or so i'll have a closer look and see if there's any other changes I can spot. I'll be driving an early mk2, and then a "mk3" within a day of each other so unless it's raining then I should be able to feel if there's any notable difference (at road speeds of course)
It looks like i'm in a minority as I actually prefer the mk2 pod dash! I agree that it's a bit fussy etc but it feels less mainstream and more "TVR" than the analogue dials.
Also the steering wheel feels a bit more bespoke, however i'm sure there's plenty of steering wheels to replace the somewhat bland one in the mk3/convertibles.
That said, I'm looking forward to finally owning one, hopefully i'll find a suitable car soon!
I'm car hunting over the next week or so i'll have a closer look and see if there's any other changes I can spot. I'll be driving an early mk2, and then a "mk3" within a day of each other so unless it's raining then I should be able to feel if there's any notable difference (at road speeds of course)
It looks like i'm in a minority as I actually prefer the mk2 pod dash! I agree that it's a bit fussy etc but it feels less mainstream and more "TVR" than the analogue dials.
Also the steering wheel feels a bit more bespoke, however i'm sure there's plenty of steering wheels to replace the somewhat bland one in the mk3/convertibles.
That said, I'm looking forward to finally owning one, hopefully i'll find a suitable car soon!
spartridge said:
Not my understanding.
1) Dashboard simplified to align with convertible and share components from other T cars - probably to save costs?...any evidence of better reliability entirely circumstantial.
2) Adoption of Bilstein Dampers/eibach springs....think most or all Tuscan 2's had the cheaper ones that are definitely worth upgrading!
Electrics, geometry/suspension (dampers aside), steering, body, air box, engine all the same for Mk2 and "mk3".
http://www.racinggreentvr.com/models/tuscan-2.asp
Happy to be corrected though!
Item 1 Is correct cost saving using the same instruments for all model ranges , also easy to change to LHD.1) Dashboard simplified to align with convertible and share components from other T cars - probably to save costs?...any evidence of better reliability entirely circumstantial.
2) Adoption of Bilstein Dampers/eibach springs....think most or all Tuscan 2's had the cheaper ones that are definitely worth upgrading!
Electrics, geometry/suspension (dampers aside), steering, body, air box, engine all the same for Mk2 and "mk3".
http://www.racinggreentvr.com/models/tuscan-2.asp
Happy to be corrected though!
Item 2 Suspension was different on the MK3, with up-dated Bilsteins via the Sagaris suspension development, although not sure on the geometry. The steering column was different, which also made it necessary to change the underside of the airbox, as when I come to fit an ACT carbon fibre airbox to mine it would not fit & had to be re-made to clear the steering linkages.Electrical system is also different to accommodate the new dash ECU etc.
NCE 61 said:
Item 1 Is correct cost saving using the same instruments for all model ranges , also easy to change to LHD.
Item 2 Suspension was different on the MK3, with up-dated Bilsteins via the Sagaris suspension development, although not sure on the geometry. The steering column was different, which also made it necessary to change the underside of the airbox, as when I come to fit an ACT carbon fibre airbox to mine it would not fit & had to be re-made to clear the steering linkages.Electrical system is also different to accommodate the new dash ECU etc.
Not sure I agree with you Nick that Bilsteins were different between MK2s(pre Jan'06) and curvy dash Mk2s(Jan'06 onwards)... (but I'll make a phone to check Item 2 Suspension was different on the MK3, with up-dated Bilsteins via the Sagaris suspension development, although not sure on the geometry. The steering column was different, which also made it necessary to change the underside of the airbox, as when I come to fit an ACT carbon fibre airbox to mine it would not fit & had to be re-made to clear the steering linkages.Electrical system is also different to accommodate the new dash ECU etc.
)... certainly agree that "S" models have stiffer rear springs (Eibach in all cases) I thought all MK2 Targas and Convertibles were the same, just depended if "S" or not.Sag suspension is completely different to Tuscans (Track,Springs,Track rod fittings,and I supect damper lengths).After all the Sagaris came out in 2004, and I'm not aware of any retro fit work done to the Sagaris.. I guess as always with TVR, suspension refinements were constantly being made by Ben Lang (ride height, testing Ohlins on press car..etc.) ... same as the Speed Six engine where changes were still being made in the last few months of TVRs existance.I've carried on those refinements by raising my steering rack and front ride height
... and few other modsEdited by glow worm on Saturday 26th February 16:15
glow worm said:
Not sure I agree with you Nick that Bilsteins were different between MK2s(pre Jan'06) and curvy dash Mk2s(Jan'06 onwards)... (but I'll make a phone to check )... certainly agree that "S" models have stiffer rear springs (Eibach in all cases) I thought all MK2 Targas and Convertibles were the same, just depended if "S" or not.Sag suspension is completely different to Tuscans (Track,Springs,Track rod fittings,and I supect damper lengths).After all the Sagaris came out in 2004, and I'm not aware of any retro fit work done to the Sagaris.. I guess as always with TVR, suspension refinements were constantly being made by Ben Lang (ride height, testing Ohlins on press car..etc.) ... same as the Speed Six engine where changes were still being made in the last few months of TVRs existance.
I've carried on those refinements by raising my steering rack and front ride height ... and few other mods
Keith would be nice to know about the suspension, defiantly feels different on mine (in a good way) compared to other Tuscan 2 S's. I am booked in for Jasons bump steer modification so development also continues on mine as well )... certainly agree that "S" models have stiffer rear springs (Eibach in all cases) I thought all MK2 Targas and Convertibles were the same, just depended if "S" or not.Sag suspension is completely different to Tuscans (Track,Springs,Track rod fittings,and I supect damper lengths).After all the Sagaris came out in 2004, and I'm not aware of any retro fit work done to the Sagaris.. I guess as always with TVR, suspension refinements were constantly being made by Ben Lang (ride height, testing Ohlins on press car..etc.) ... same as the Speed Six engine where changes were still being made in the last few months of TVRs existance.I've carried on those refinements by raising my steering rack and front ride height
... and few other modsEdited by glow worm on Saturday 26th February 16:15
OP sorry for going a bit off topic, but no mine is not for sale
Thers at least 2 types of front hubs and 3 different wish bone set ups im sure.
Not sure about Mk2/3 coil overs differing and between std and s models just someone said upgrade the mk2s
mk 3 "s" has bilstein and green/blue springs as std so don't see how they need uprating
bulkhead is different on mk 3 to accommodate the revised steering column angle the reason the air box had to be modified for clearance if im corect?? (even the ignition key is different)
ecu is totaly diferent type to mk 1 and 2
There is other small diferances to the body although slight
think the front reg plate mounting varies some models some seporate some molded to bonet? (not sure)
Not sure if mk 2 bonnets are same as mk3 or early tuscan bonets??
but tuscan and mk3 vary in size i think From front edge to tip of horns may be sone one could post tuscan and mk 2 lengths ill post mk3
Dont the mk 2 dashes have any problems? visibility etc?
mk3 electrics/electronics and instraments was tried and tested reliable formula (used inn sag t350 etc and connvertable) why would they change electronics,dash and harness after developing the mk2?
And continue to change bulkhead,air box and steering if there wasn't development??
If any one has a patern of the front suspention mounting position (on chasis) id like to compare with a mk3 chassis
Not sure about Mk2/3 coil overs differing and between std and s models just someone said upgrade the mk2s
mk 3 "s" has bilstein and green/blue springs as std so don't see how they need uprating
bulkhead is different on mk 3 to accommodate the revised steering column angle the reason the air box had to be modified for clearance if im corect?? (even the ignition key is different)
ecu is totaly diferent type to mk 1 and 2
There is other small diferances to the body although slight
think the front reg plate mounting varies some models some seporate some molded to bonet? (not sure)
Not sure if mk 2 bonnets are same as mk3 or early tuscan bonets??
but tuscan and mk3 vary in size i think From front edge to tip of horns may be sone one could post tuscan and mk 2 lengths ill post mk3
Dont the mk 2 dashes have any problems? visibility etc?
mk3 electrics/electronics and instraments was tried and tested reliable formula (used inn sag t350 etc and connvertable) why would they change electronics,dash and harness after developing the mk2?
And continue to change bulkhead,air box and steering if there wasn't development??
If any one has a patern of the front suspention mounting position (on chasis) id like to compare with a mk3 chassis
It looks like i'm in a minority as I actually prefer the mk2 pod dash! I agree that it's a bit fussy etc but it feels less mainstream and more "TVR" than the analogue dials.
Also the steering wheel feels a bit more bespoke, however i'm sure there's plenty of steering wheels to replace the somewhat bland one in the mk3/convertibles.
That said, I'm looking forward to finally owning one, hopefully i'll find a suitable car soon!
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I must say i like the early tuscan instruments best (although unreliable) and the mk2 steering wheel (cerbra)style with controls
It for me is what TVR was about "out of the norm futuristic styling as was the mk2 instruments
I feel the mk 3 instruments were definable 3 steps backwards in style (and as for the steering wheel usually replaced with "momo treck")
but improvement in electronic/electrical reliability IMO
Enjoy your experience of the test drives im sure you will have a grin from ear to ear .
There is always lots of helpful info on this great forum witch ever model you buy.
Str8t6 (bad spelling) racing greem and tvr power seam to have dealings and cled up on the "two Russian" models
Having just spent the afternoon talking to Dave Martin and Daz ..(two TVR designers) .... The original Mk2 dash was designed by Martin Smith for Peter Wheeler... the convertible dash was designed for Smolenski to use the same components as the Sagaris and then used in MK2 Targas from Jan'06, to standardise components and minimise costs. Also the original MK2 dash was a difficult to fit and inconsistencies in the GRP bodyshell made it even worse... PWs original spec said "Not a tunnel instuments panel" and look what apppear the "periscope pod" .. and Clarksons' "Baboon's Bum".
Nick still checking though Ben Langs suspension specifications but Heath is of the opinion besides the "S" spring upgrade option, they are the same. And NO factory modifications changes in Sag specs from 2004 to April'06.
Pretty good that Ben Samuleson has just bought John Simpson's Tuscan Convertible ... recommendations don't come much better than that .
Nick still checking though Ben Langs suspension specifications but Heath is of the opinion besides the "S" spring upgrade option, they are the same. And NO factory modifications changes in Sag specs from 2004 to April'06.
Pretty good that Ben Samuleson has just bought John Simpson's Tuscan Convertible ... recommendations don't come much better than that
.Edited by glow worm on Sunday 27th February 19:03
didnt realise the mk2 was a British designed car thought it was done under Russian control.cor blimey all those years producing a tuscan and never developing/dressing its many problems until the company was doomed Unbelievable!!! timing.
what yr were mk2 and convertible introduced?
what yr were mk2 and convertible introduced?
Edited by froggie on Sunday 27th February 21:54
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