Reliability
Reliability
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leaty

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4 posts

257 months

Thursday 6th May 2004
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I am new to the TVR forum!! I pick you my "X" 01 RR on Saturday and can not wait.....
I was never going to give my opinion on Reliability but
after reading TUS 373 throught i would......

I worked for " The Best 4x4 by Far" Car Manufacture for nearly 10 years and yes they are now owned by a German car manufacture.
When they make a new Engine or Gearbox they had faulty
units I replaced 6 new engines with less then 1000 miles on the clock.. if they can not get it right, first time with the Budget and years of Know how they
have, it was no suprise to me that a relatively small car Manufacture like TVR had some problems....
let's move on and enjoy the car.
I would be more angry if TVR were doing nothing to sort the problem out, but they are.


Podie

46,646 posts

291 months

Thursday 6th May 2004
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leaty said:
I worked for " The Best 4x4 by Far" Car Manufacture for nearly 10 years and yes they are now owned by a German car manufacture.


Ford own Landie, not BMW...

Jaged

691 posts

291 months

Friday 7th May 2004
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Would that be 6 engines of the 47000 cars they sell a year in this country alone or 6 of the 170000 odd worldwide. Either way not a catastrophic failure rate unless it happens to you.

Think you need to get some perspective on the matter before you throw stones at one of the few lasting Motor manufacturers in this country that can still hold its head high on a global stage.

Congrats on the Trev purchase.

alans

3,528 posts

272 months

Saturday 8th May 2004
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a neighbour of mine has had 3 new gearboxes in his not quite 12 month old "best 4X4 by far", and numerous other problems.



jaged

691 posts

291 months

Saturday 8th May 2004
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80% of all Landies built are still in use and considering the beating some of them get that is a great accolade.

My dad's brand new Merc has been back to the dealership for significant mechanical replacements 3 times in the first half year of ownership. Podie's Fiesta Zetec S had a complete engine replacement after 5 months.

Everyone knows someone who has had a serious problem with their car.

Granted 3 gearboxes is a bit steep but surely that comes down to component manufacture problems and not necessarily the Land Rover it is bolted into.

ehasler

8,574 posts

299 months

Saturday 8th May 2004
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Podie said:

leaty said:
I worked for " The Best 4x4 by Far" Car Manufacture for nearly 10 years and yes they are now owned by a German car manufacture.



Ford own Landie, not BMW...

Really? I thought it was BMW as well. Did Ford buy it from BMW, or am I completely confused?

captain honesty

152 posts

258 months

Saturday 8th May 2004
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jaged said:


Everyone knows someone who has had a serious problem with their car.


exactly.we can all come on here till we're blue in the face with stories of breakdowns of reliable cars.there are dogs in every manufacturers fleets.

TUS 373

4,946 posts

297 months

Saturday 8th May 2004
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Haven't all recent 7 series BMWs had new engines because of some major problem with them? Can't remember where I heard that. (). I think BMW kept it quiet though.

jaged

691 posts

291 months

Saturday 8th May 2004
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BMW took what they needed from Landie in terms of tech and engineers who know how to design a proper off roader and then flogged it to the Blue Oval for $3bn.

Just as well really seeing as they only got a tenner for the rest of the MG Rover Group.

sideways mostly

2,681 posts

257 months

Saturday 8th May 2004
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This is beginning to ......wrinkle me.

I own a design company and the senior partners all have a taste for expensive kit-the 'reliability' of machines my company has owned is as follows

1) BMW 735 broke a camshaft-twice!
2)RangeRover transmission failure,had to be completely replaced-failed again two months later.Then there were electrical problems and the chap who ran it swapped it for an Amazon.

3) Mercedes 320 CE - recall on brakes and had a rear nearside indicator fault that was never traced and never succesfully repaired in the three years I ran it

4) Alfa Romeo 164 ( going back a bit ) consistent minor electrical faults and a gearbox linkage failure

5) BMW 5 series transmision failure

6) Audi S6 front suspension failure-really nasty one this one-nearly caused a big accident

All the machines mentioned above ferried luvvies around Notting Hill,Highgate and rougher dives like Ealing with the occasional blat up and down motorways
so no extreme action and certainly no track days.

Reliability comparisons need perspective.My brother-in -law worked for Fords at Dunton for some years and Ford,trying to improve their reliability record,approached the automatic transmition OEM that BMW used and specced a transmission as close to the Beamer as the OEM would allow without incurring legal problems.
After a year they were back thumping the desk,reliability had improved marginally but nothing like the assumed BMW performance.The OEM calmly informed Ford they were getting exactly the same failure rate as BMW.

Consider the Porche news item in EVO this month.The ultra high-tech ceramic disk brakes are becoming a nightmare.

Originally expected to last for 300,000km they are experiencing substantially less than that.The cost of a new set of disks and pads-wait for it £22,000.
Makes a rebuild sound like a bargain

Jaguar auto transmission recall anyone?-over 60,000 cars.


I am upgrading from a mk 1 Lotus Elite which I have loved to a Tuscan later this month-looking forward to it.

what about the Loads Of Trouble Usually Serious?

Not a bleep after 33k,not a sausage!

If the Trevor is only half as reliable-I'll still be well ahead of Range Rover,BMW,Audi Jaguar and Porche

Please-give TVR a break!

captain honesty

152 posts

258 months

Sunday 9th May 2004
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i really don't get the point of this thread.
ALL cars have problems,yes tvr has taken a more public battering than most but the tit for tat stories are sad.
"my mate's reliable porsche broke down 1000 times where my tvr hasn't missed a beat"!
i couldn't care less about stories like that.
i bought my tvr for the looks,pace,sound and grin factor.
i'm more worried about the service i get when i have a problem and it seems this is the area where owners would like improvements.
and before anyone comes on here with a story about how they were treated well when they had a problem,i was treated superbly when i had problems with my S6 and couldn't have asked for better service,but as an owner i feel a duty to keep pushing for better service from tvr,not just for myself but for fellow owners too

Big Al.

69,271 posts

274 months

Sunday 9th May 2004
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Reliability, rather that re event the wheel, on a subject that has be dicussed numerouse times.

Do a "reliability" search in the Tuscan formum, and I think a lot of your questions will be answered there.

All the best with your new purchase leaty.

>> Edited by Big Al. on Sunday 9th May 12:01
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