CarZee Controvrsy: Spermbank for lesbians launched
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I mean if you want to have children, you should at least be a heterosexual couple - ie a couple *designed* to reproduce.
Perhaps I'm wrong - perhaps lesbian couples make the best parents (errrmm not!).. and perhaps this is more misguided PC feminazi bullshit which will store up yet more troubles for the future.
quote:Am I the only one to whom this seems morally wrong?
The world's first sperm donor service to help lesbians become parents was launched in Britain last night.
I mean if you want to have children, you should at least be a heterosexual couple - ie a couple *designed* to reproduce.
Perhaps I'm wrong - perhaps lesbian couples make the best parents (errrmm not!).. and perhaps this is more misguided PC feminazi bullshit which will store up yet more troubles for the future.
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www.thisislondon.co.uk/dynamic/news/story.html?in_review_id=622100&in_review_text_id=592001quote:Am I the only one to whom this seems morally wrong?
The world's first sperm donor service to help lesbians become parents was launched in Britain last night.
I mean if you want to have children, you should at least be a heterosexual couple - ie a couple *designed* to reproduce.
Perhaps I'm wrong - perhaps lesbian couples make the best parents (errrmm not!).. and perhaps this is more misguided PC feminazi bullshit which will store up yet more troubles for the future.
I disagree with your comments you evil pig!
Seriously though, I think there are a lot of *designed* couples that do not deserve children - in the way they are treated. If a gay couple want a child then thats fine, if they give them love and a happy childhood then good for them I say.
If your child (if you have any) turns out to be gay and they express an interest to "have" a child, would you still have the same opinion?
The result would be your grandchild.
heheh.. bit of a moot point, but IMO if you're not of an orientation that can procreate naturally, then too bad.
yeah - i can hear gay/les people saying "we've every right" - well no, I think not. I might think I've got every right to sit here and play with my tits all day. It'd be nice, but I can't - because I'm a man - not a woman.
If you're gay, not straight, then you can't - it's simple.
yeah - i can hear gay/les people saying "we've every right" - well no, I think not. I might think I've got every right to sit here and play with my tits all day. It'd be nice, but I can't - because I'm a man - not a woman.
If you're gay, not straight, then you can't - it's simple.
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heheh.. bit of a moot point, but IMO if you're not of an orientation that can procreate naturally, then too bad.
yeah - i can hear gay/les people saying "we've every right" - well no, I think not. I might think I've got every right to sit here and play with my tits all day. It'd be nice, but I can't - because I'm a man - not a woman.
If you're gay, not straight, then you can't - it's simple.
Im with you Carzzz on this one , i can not see why they should have the "Right" to get sprogs on demand , it all seems a bit "mail order" to me
"Oh i think i will have a kid , now wheres that sperm bank number" i dont like it
As always in our modern society it's all about peoples "rights to this and that".
No mention of responsibilities though (surprise surprise!)
Gay couple want to marry? No problem.
Gay couple want to be parents? Fine by me.
Gay couple want child social security benefits: Yup, after all it's only fair.
Gay couple forced to provide for child in the event of relationship failure? Errr no, No legal provision for that I'm afraid. Result: Taxpayer will end up paying and child suffers.
Gay couple decide after 10 years that child has a right to know identity of father? (despite earlier assurance of anonimity). You know the answer to that one.
Also, forgive my cave man brain, but it's never been made clear to me how, if its so difficult for a kid to tell his parents he/she is gay, how the gay parents of a straight child would be able to relate to that child?
It's a can of worms, and because no one has thought it through properly or even set about making family law work for this kind of circumstance its as sure as god made little green apples that I and countless other ordinary taxpayers will end up footing the bill for the inevitable debacle that will emerge as a consequence in the years to come.
Sigh!
Andy 400se
No mention of responsibilities though (surprise surprise!)
Gay couple want to marry? No problem.
Gay couple want to be parents? Fine by me.
Gay couple want child social security benefits: Yup, after all it's only fair.
Gay couple forced to provide for child in the event of relationship failure? Errr no, No legal provision for that I'm afraid. Result: Taxpayer will end up paying and child suffers.
Gay couple decide after 10 years that child has a right to know identity of father? (despite earlier assurance of anonimity). You know the answer to that one.
Also, forgive my cave man brain, but it's never been made clear to me how, if its so difficult for a kid to tell his parents he/she is gay, how the gay parents of a straight child would be able to relate to that child?
It's a can of worms, and because no one has thought it through properly or even set about making family law work for this kind of circumstance its as sure as god made little green apples that I and countless other ordinary taxpayers will end up footing the bill for the inevitable debacle that will emerge as a consequence in the years to come.
Sigh!
Andy 400se
Devils Advocate here...
from what I remember of my Degree, and also some research done (by someone else) with Sheep and Goats... Children copy their parents and consider their parents actions to be "normal"...
Therefore wouldn't it be fair to suggest that a child brough up in a Gay or Lesbian family would assume that is normal to be attracted to the same sex ???
An whilst I am in no means Anti Gay's or Lesbian's is it morraly right to "encourage" albeit passively, these children to their own homosexual persuasion..?
Cheers
Matt
from what I remember of my Degree, and also some research done (by someone else) with Sheep and Goats... Children copy their parents and consider their parents actions to be "normal"...
Therefore wouldn't it be fair to suggest that a child brough up in a Gay or Lesbian family would assume that is normal to be attracted to the same sex ???
An whilst I am in no means Anti Gay's or Lesbian's is it morraly right to "encourage" albeit passively, these children to their own homosexual persuasion..?
Cheers
Matt
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Im with you Carzzz on this one , i can not see why they should have the "Right" to get sprogs on demand , it all seems a bit "mail order" to me
"Oh i think i will have a kid , now wheres that sperm bank number" i dont like it
Hmm. A lesbian couple, who want to have a kid.
I can see a new business opportunity, no sperm banks involved. And fun
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Im with you Carzzz on this one , i can not see why they should have the "Right" to get sprogs on demand , it all seems a bit "mail order" to me
"Oh i think i will have a kid , now wheres that sperm bank number" i dont like it
Hmm. A lesbian couple, who want to have a kid.
I can see a new business opportunity, no sperm banks involved. And fun
Not for them
you know what p**sses me off,
every time gay/lesbian people get into debates about morality and gay/lesbian rights they cry, "I never asked to be Gay, Its not easy being this way, we are always persecuted" well, WAKE THE F**K up then, why would you encourage kids to grow up in that environment. They are going to have to answer for your selfishness.
"Mom, where was my father from?"
Oh, I dont know my child, but I think it was consol glass!"
I could get very wound up here, So I'm going to shut up around about now!
every time gay/lesbian people get into debates about morality and gay/lesbian rights they cry, "I never asked to be Gay, Its not easy being this way, we are always persecuted" well, WAKE THE F**K up then, why would you encourage kids to grow up in that environment. They are going to have to answer for your selfishness.
"Mom, where was my father from?"
Oh, I dont know my child, but I think it was consol glass!"
I could get very wound up here, So I'm going to shut up around about now!
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Im with you Carzzz on this one , i can not see why they should have the "Right" to get sprogs on demand , it all seems a bit "mail order" to me
"Oh i think i will have a kid , now wheres that sperm bank number" i dont like it
Hmm. A lesbian couple, who want to have a kid.
I can see a new business opportunity, no sperm banks involved. And fun
Not for them
Yer, but as soon as they experience a real man they will become un-gay!
your sexual preference gay or straight, shouldn't have anything to do with your ability to be a (good) parent.
Parenting is about bringing up your children knowing right from wrong, doing the right thing and teaching responsibility etc etc.
Ask yoursleves how many of you took an interest in your parents sex lives. I think its commonly accepted that all children believe their parents having sex is the most revolting thing you could possibly think of gay or straight.
Parenting is about bringing up your children knowing right from wrong, doing the right thing and teaching responsibility etc etc.
Ask yoursleves how many of you took an interest in your parents sex lives. I think its commonly accepted that all children believe their parents having sex is the most revolting thing you could possibly think of gay or straight.
quote:Oh but you can. You can go and take a course of hormones, have a simple operation done, and Voila. You've got the right to do this if you want to.
I might think I've got every right to sit here and play with my tits all day. It'd be nice, but I can't - because I'm a man - not a woman.
If you're gay, not straight, then you can't - it's simple.
quote:It's not the 'parents having sex' that's got anything to do with anything - it's about having a balanced upbringing - a male and a female role-model. What is to say that a child brought up by a lesbian couple would be any better off than a child of a single mother, who misbehaves for want of a father figure?
Ask yoursleves how many of you took an interest in your parents sex lives. I think its commonly accepted that all children believe their parents having sex is the most revolting thing you could possibly think of gay or straight.
Or the child of a gay couple who has no respect for women because it sees no place for them in the world?
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